Suicide and self harm!

*Blue Star*:

Just like as if:

the17th-minority:

Did you know that people who jump off a building or cliff (for suicide) realize 2/3s of the way down, that there is a solution to their problem. But by then, it's too late.

And how do you know that then? Maybe not a solution, but they may regret it then. We'll never know.

Some people might not actually feel anything when they jump off. That happens with me alot...I can't feel anything whenever I'm doing something (not jumping off buildings though.) I imagine that some people feel totally numb inside and don't even realise that they're flying downwards until they're inches above the ground.

Well that'd be good then. But we'll never know.

They might also die of a heartattack before hitting the ground. Ah the panic.

Just like as if:

They might also die of a heartattack before hitting the ground. Ah the panic.

Oooh yeah...I've never thought about that...

I watch too much TV.

Anyways, it's true. They could die of a heart attack, or live and regret it. But, there is always some sort of way to get help on your problems. But, some people have just had enough of emotions and totally blocked themselves from any kind of emotion. I had a friend that tried that once, she gave up because we tried to get help for her.

the17th-minority:

I watch too much TV.

Anyways, it's true. They could die of a heart attack, or live and regret it. But, there is always some sort of way to get help on your problems. But, some people have just had enough of emotions and totally blocked themselves from any kind of emotion. I had a friend that tried that once, she gave up because we tried to get help for her.

I said something about this a couple of pages ago. You might panic or not, but people don't always kill themselves because of a problem or problems, it might be just the emotional state when you really can't live anymore.
(Get your stones ready) My husband is always telling me "Imagine, right after you kill yourself, we find a solution, find a way to get you out of this fucked up situation; and then imagine how much it's gonna suck to realize you missed the chance for a happy life", to which I always reply that if I do kill myself, it won't be because of the situation and the problems that I have - but because of the infixible emotional damage they've done and even if everything in my life will be okay, I will still never be happy, because I can't live with what's happened to me.

So, yeah, you might want to grab onto a branch to stop the falling or fight out of the noose, but even if you do - it doesn't mean you'll want to live 2 weeks after that.

Faith:

the17th-minority:

I watch too much TV.

Anyways, it's true. They could die of a heart attack, or live and regret it. But, there is always some sort of way to get help on your problems. But, some people have just had enough of emotions and totally blocked themselves from any kind of emotion. I had a friend that tried that once, she gave up because we tried to get help for her.

I said something about this a couple of pages ago. You might panic or not, but people don't always kill themselves because of a problem or problems, it might be just the emotional state when you really can't live anymore.
(Get your stones ready) My husband is always telling me "Imagine, right after you kill yourself, we find a solution, find a way to get you out of this fucked up situation; and then imagine how much it's gonna suck to realize you missed the chance for a happy life", to which I always reply that if I do kill myself, it won't be because of the situation and the problems that I have - but because of the infixible emotional damage they've done and even if everything in my life will be okay, I will still never be happy, because I can't live with what's happened to me.

So, yeah, you might want to grab onto a branch to stop the falling or fight out of the noose, but even if you do - it doesn't mean you'll want to live 2 weeks after that.

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Well said.

Bad memories and regrets. Man, I hate them.

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

The Art Of War:

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

oh! like on Lost when Sawyer went to put the police man out of his misery and shot him in the heart to kill him instantly but missed and just made it worse... that would suck hard.

the17th-minority:

Did you know that people who jump off a building or cliff (for suicide) realize 2/3s of the way down, that there is a solution to their problem. But by then, it's too late.

Thats very interesting. I wonder how on earth people can ever prove it though?. But i would have thought that if a person is about to commit suicide then they will have thought long and hard about it and will be certain that there is no solution to their problems.

i used to think about suicide alot but stopped.I've thought about self mutilation but would never do it.

poison_fish:

The Art Of War:

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

oh! like on Lost when Sawyer went to put the police man out of his misery and shot him in the heart to kill him instantly but missed and just made it worse... that would suck hard.

How did it get worse?

*Blue Star*:

poison_fish:

The Art Of War:

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

oh! like on Lost when Sawyer went to put the police man out of his misery and shot him in the heart to kill him instantly but missed and just made it worse... that would suck hard.

How did it get worse?

because then hes lying there with a bullet in him and in a helluva lot more pain but not dead.

...I have a roughly........2 in 5 chance of death by suicide.....

..........ain't life a bowl of cherries!?

H-F-P-R

I have to much respect for life to kill myself, every year millions of children die from accidents, disease and murder.

Life is a spectacular thing that no one should waste, I think to myself that if the prisoners of German concentration camps could still have hope for a better tommorow than so can I.

and basically people who commit suicide they haven't lost the will to live, they've lost hope.

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

poison_fish:

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

People who are suicidal don't live in complete misery, every single person on the world has that tiny flicker of enjoyment every so often, some more than others.

But people who become suicidal have a complex where they can only see the bad. So i take my comment back, I think EVERYONE has that tiny piece of hope inside of them and it's only a hand grasp away, they just have to reach that little bit furthr than everyone else.

NeoSteph:

poison_fish:

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

People who are suicidal don't live in complete misery, every single person on the world has that tiny flicker of enjoyment every so often, some more than others.

But people who become suicidal have a complex where they can only see the bad. So i take my comment back, I think EVERYONE has that tiny piece of hope inside of them and it's only a hand grasp away, they just have to reach that little bit furthr than everyone else.

Don't mean to get in a fight or anything, but I really think you're generalizing a little too much. People kill themselves for different reasons, so you can't just say that's exactly how it always happens. There are people who simply choose to die rather then go through agony from the hopeless case of cancer, or something of that kind. You know, there are way too many different cases of suicide to just sum it up like that in 3 lines. If you don't know what I'm talking about, read the previous 50 pages of this thread. We've all come up with some good stuff there.

NeoSteph:

poison_fish:

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

People who are suicidal don't live in complete misery, every single person on the world has that tiny flicker of enjoyment every so often, some more than others.

But people who become suicidal have a complex where they can only see the bad. So i take my comment back, I think EVERYONE has that tiny piece of hope inside of them and it's only a hand grasp away, they just have to reach that little bit furthr than everyone else.

yes but there are people who are suicidal [im not saying EVERY suicidal person] and although, yes, in everyones life there is definitely hope for a better one, but some are so pessimistic and dont realise this so figure life can only get worse. and so im saying even though there is hope, there are people who dont see it or wont do anything to get there.

Faith:

NeoSteph:

poison_fish:

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

People who are suicidal don't live in complete misery, every single person on the world has that tiny flicker of enjoyment every so often, some more than others.

But people who become suicidal have a complex where they can only see the bad. So i take my comment back, I think EVERYONE has that tiny piece of hope inside of them and it's only a hand grasp away, they just have to reach that little bit furthr than everyone else.

Don't mean to get in a fight or anything, but I really think you're generalizing a little too much. People kill themselves for different reasons, so you can't just say that's exactly how it always happens. There are people who simply choose to die rather then go through agony from the hopeless case of cancer, or something of that kind. You know, there are way too many different cases of suicide to just sum it up like that in 3 lines. If you don't know what I'm talking about, read the previous 50 pages of this thread. We've all come up with some good stuff there.

i'm not generalising that all suicide cases are the same, i just believe that every person has a tiny piece of happiness, hell looking up at the sky and seeing that it's sunny can make a person happy. Yes people kill themselves for different reason but there is always one common factor and that is they just find anything worthwhile to stick around for.

Maybe the problem is that people look to deep into suicide, by over anylising you can sometimes miss the problem completely, sometimes it's easier just to take a step back and say ''right your sad, let's go get some ice cream'' (not that i belive that would work) but it's a nice thought.

NeoSteph:

Faith:

NeoSteph:

poison_fish:

but then there are the people who have no respect for life and whats the point in living if you're not going to embrace and enjoy it kind of thing you know.
and the thing is, if they've lost all hope then they're not oing to try and solve their problem(s) and cant see hope for a better life and without hope or belief that it could happen nothings gunna change unless others help or force it on you.

People who are suicidal don't live in complete misery, every single person on the world has that tiny flicker of enjoyment every so often, some more than others.

But people who become suicidal have a complex where they can only see the bad. So i take my comment back, I think EVERYONE has that tiny piece of hope inside of them and it's only a hand grasp away, they just have to reach that little bit furthr than everyone else.

Don't mean to get in a fight or anything, but I really think you're generalizing a little too much. People kill themselves for different reasons, so you can't just say that's exactly how it always happens. There are people who simply choose to die rather then go through agony from the hopeless case of cancer, or something of that kind. You know, there are way too many different cases of suicide to just sum it up like that in 3 lines. If you don't know what I'm talking about, read the previous 50 pages of this thread. We've all come up with some good stuff there.

i'm not generalising that all suicide cases are the same, i just believe that every person has a tiny piece of happiness, hell looking up at the sky and seeing that it's sunny can make a person happy. Yes people kill themselves for different reason but there is always one common factor and that is they just find anything worthwhile to stick around for.

Maybe the problem is that people look to deep into suicide, by over anylising you can sometimes miss the problem completely, sometimes it's easier just to take a step back and say ''right your sad, let's go get some ice cream'' (not that i belive that would work) but it's a nice thought.

sandalwood incense. it smells good, its relaxing, and its supposed to put people in a better mood. better for you than ice cream, even...lol