Suicide and self harm!

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

it's funny how one minute i'm denial because i have hope and the next your saying i'm closed-minded and angry, make up your mind.


I wasn't suggesting that i know what hell is but i know for a fact you don't know either, unless you flew down there one day and took a peep.

I find it offensive that you think what i've got through is laughable, i've gone though my trials and tribulations and i'm a very happy person, because i don't let the past turn me into a mindless person.

Am i angry because people i know have died a un-needed death, of course i am but i don't let it control my life, unlike you who seems to live in a cut off society where you have only your malicous thoughts of despair to keep you comapny. So tell me where exactly do you live that it's so unbearable you can't even tell people?

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

NeoSteph:

it's funny how one minute i'm denial because i have hope and the next your saying i'm closed-minded and angry, make up your mind.


I wasn't suggesting that i know what hell is but i know for a fact you don't know either, unless you flew down there one day and took a peep.

I find it offensive that you think what i've got through is laughable, i've gone though my trials and tribulations and i'm a very happy person, because i don't let the past turn me into a mindless person.

Am i angry because people i know have died a un-needed death, of course i am but i don't let it control my life, unlike you who seems to live in a cut off society where you have only your malicous thoughts of despair to keep you comapny. So tell me where exactly do you live that it's so unbearable you can't even tell people?

Okay, now lets start:
First, one can be both in denial and closed-minded and angry...no need to make a choice there...
Second, you're not in denial because you have hope, you're in denial because you think there is always hope.
Third, I don't think what you went through is laughable, I think your comment on my not knowing of hell is laughable.
Forth, hell as a religios matter and hell on earth are differnt things and have nothing to do with one another.
Fifth, where exactly did I say I know hell that you're so much into referring to that?
Sixth, if I'm such a wothless piece of shit, why would you even bother argueing with me?
Seventh, living where I live is unbearable not because it's a bad place, but because it's the worst place that I could possibly end up in, the concentration of my greatest fears, emotional problems, persecution, humiliation, horror, seperation from the only person who cares about me, being surrounded by people I have mutual hatered with, along with the usual stuff, like language barrier, mentality clash, so on...

Now, since I'm sure you won't be able to leave this without reply, I have to warn you that I might not reply right away because I've already used up my Internet access time for today. So, I pre-apologize for the delay.

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Jesus came down and sacrificed himself to try and solve something that is impossible to solve.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

...But what good does it do?...

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

...But what good does it do?...

Well like us Christians believe you go to Heaven and live forever whilst the sinners go to Hell and suffer for all eternity. Thus the sinners being the ones who didnt ask for forgiveness. But I dont think you believe in all that.

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

...But what good does it do?...

thats what i would like to know, and why should we have to apologise to Him, shouldnt we apologise to the person we hurt or the person/people our "sinning" affected?

poison_fish:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

Sheepo@_@:

Nine_Inch_Nails:

And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

...But what good does it do?...

thats what i would like to know, and why should we have to apologise to Him, shouldnt we apologise to the person we hurt or the person/people our "sinning" affected?

Because He died for you, and you did something wrong. The person who you hurt didnt die for you. What does hurting anyone have to do with sinning? :S

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And neither do you.
Hey maybe the Bible got messed up, and heaven is actually hell, and hell is actually heaven?
Good job I believe in Side then.

Oh what a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you got it messed up.

I was saying what IF.
I don't believe in the Bible. I believe Christianity.
Don't you DARE tell me my beliefs are messed up okay, pagan times were there LONG before Christianity came along. People believed in Side etc etc. I didn't get it messed up, the ancient Catholic priests did. Sorry if I'm offending you, I don't mean to, but it's a subject I feel quite passionate about. How many people have died since Christianity came along, what with the Witch Trials and the Crusades etc. And how many Satanists/Wiccans/other pagan beliefs etc have died? Exactly.

O_O I dont care which religions came first. But if Christians burned witches and stuff like real witches why didnt the witches just do magic to get out of the burning? Or they didnt know? Just a question that was bothering me. I didnt say your beliefs were messed up. But its stupid you always have to say something on the Bible T_T like you actually read it all. I havent. But why always make comments on it? If you do indeed know alot on your religion thats good I dont go around saying Oh that Wiccan Bible prolly got it messed up. [example] Maybe I just got you offended or you confused. o_x

Probably just got me confused...it's late and I'm tired lol.
The reason they didn't stop themselves. Because they wern't afraid. It was something they had to face, and they knew they would come through in their next life. The burning years were some of the darkest years the world has seen, but people had to see it, to be enlightened.
The reason I always comment on the Bible. Sure I haven't read ALL of it. But we've studied most of it intensly for my G.C.S.E, so much so that I think I know enough now to actually comment on it, and say I think it's corrupted. The fact that people base their lives around one book written many many years ago? It's a bit...a lot...hmmm.
If I'm being honest, I don't like Christianity at all. Not the people, it's not the ChristIANS [most of them are lovely!], it's ChristianITY.
But yeah...let's just agree to disagree.

Well you make things not fun to debate
Basically to me all religions are made in convience[sp?] Like you said before Pagans/Wiccans came before Christianity thats true and all but then Jesus was sent to like wash away everyones sins for what they've done I guess O_O I dont really know so I'll go read about the pagans and the wiccans to understand. Bye.

Wiccans didn't, Witches did.
But how can one say what a sin is? Maybe murder etc could be classed as a sin, but to me that's just pure pyscho business. People who murder couldn't give a fuck about sins anyway. And if Jeses really did come down to wash away sins...well...take a good look at the world around sunshine It ain't happening.

Of course its not. He didnt die and make everyone perfect. He died for everyones sins; means he forgives...if you ask forgiveness. Not like oh Im sorry. Like praying sorry.

...But what good does it do?...

thats what i would like to know, and why should we have to apologise to Him, shouldnt we apologise to the person we hurt or the person/people our "sinning" affected?

Because He died for you, and you did something wrong. The person who you hurt didnt die for you. What does hurting anyone have to do with sinning? :S

i dont know im sorry im crazy and have no idea what im talking about this is getting so off topic right now and its turning into the "sinning" thread.

The Art Of War:

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

it blew his face off!? O_o O_o O_o

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The Art Of War:

did anyone hear about the guy who shot himself in the head...& lived. but it blew his face off.

it blew his face off!? O_o O_o O_o

Whoa...I'd rather have myself dead...because everyone wouldn't let you live if you had your face blown off. And..once you died after you got your face blown off...I don't think many people would like you...but if...you succeeded in killing yourself the first time, people would probably think you died a very tragic death. yeah...I'm talking a whole load of bollocks right now. But I'm bored...

I know I would kinda be grateful that I lived. After realizing of course how much I would miss and be missed.

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I know I would kinda be grateful that I lived. After realizing of course how much I would miss and be missed.

which would be a good reason for those who commit suice to be able to see the worl after they've left. to realise how many people really missed them.

Two people I know commited suicide.

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Two people I know commited suicide.

yeah, I know people that have commited suicide, including my cousin. Very touchy subject for me. I still dont know how i feel about it because i can easily see both sides of the argument. I can understand how some people are so torn apart by other's commiting suicide and how they see it as a selfish act, but i can also see the other point of view quite clearly; they were miserable here, things weren't getting better, probably wouldnt get any better, and they just wanted out. I can't figure out to this day if i agree with the first or second view of it, whether i'm angry with the person for being selfish and not caring about others or if i'm sypathetic to them, to their never-ending struggle and their desire to just leave.

I think it's selfish to think that commiting suicide is selfish. What made them want to end their life? They probably put it off for so long, hoping things would get better because they thought it would be selfish. It's selfish to not let anyone do what they want because it's going to hurt you. Because it's not about you, it's their life.