Suicide and self harm!

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Faith:

Bloodraine:

I just don't see the logic behind self-harm anyway. Suicide, yes.

But how does slitting your wrists, getting more depressed and embroiling yourself in more and more pain help at all?. Ehh, maybe i'm just different to the majority of teenagers these days.
Maybe I can just deal with things inside my head but you need to take the anger out on your bodies, I don't know.

If i'm upset or angry I just mull it over, think about it for a while and then move on...

It's not about being upset or angry. It's the pressure of depression or anxiety or some other mental disorder that you can't just "mull over" and move on. People cut themselves because the physical pain from the cutting makes the emotional pain subside for a moment - it's a break from the constant tension inside of you.
It might make you feel even worse afterwards, but it's a sacrifice for the relief that the self-harm gives you. If people choose to make this sacrifice - I will not blame them. And I don't think anyone should.

Hmn...I'm not blaming them. Obviously it must be a great help to people because so many people do it so it can only be a good thing for people with inner problems. I was under the impression that some people do self harm because anger or being upset (Distressed being a better word?) to relieve emotional pain as you put it...and it wasn't exclusively down to mental disorders or depression.... I thought they were simply indicators of such a thing.

Perhaps its simply one of those things that just doesn't suit me. Maybe I just deal with things by thinking about them, logically, maybe I'm just not very emotonal at all. We all deal with things differently, y'know, and if people slit their wrists to deal with it then I respect them for it, so long as they aren't just doing it because they're a little down and all their friends are doing it like *Blue Star* says ...

Well, it's not like anyone is asking you to come join them in the cutting, right?
And the whole deal with being cool is just a whole different animal - that's just stupid, and hopefully those people will understand that eventually.

Bloodraine:

Good job, too. I've been in real pain before, and I didn't like it, because I am (physically) a coward.

Surely you can see where I'm coming from though...The appeal of cutting as a trend in general. I can understand haircuts. I can understand clothing. I can understand music. I cannot understand the appeal in inflicting un-necessary pain upon yourself for the sake of fashion. I'm not criticizing these teengaers when they do self-harm for genuine reasons, but for smaller things...you can tell they're only doing it because of their 'Scene' culture. Which Is why I said I prefer to deal with these matters mentally rather than physically. Because like I said, I am cowardly and not not like pain.

I just think they could have picked a more appealing fad anyway.

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Good job, too. I've been in real pain before, and I didn't like it, because I am (physically) a coward.

Surely you can see where I'm coming from though...The appeal of cutting as a trend in general. I can understand haircuts. I can understand clothing. I can understand music. I cannot understand the appeal in inflicting un-necessary pain upon yourself for the sake of fashion. I'm not criticizing these teengaers when they do self-harm for genuine reasons, but for smaller things...you can tell they're only doing it because of their 'Scene' culture. Which Is why I said I prefer to deal with these matters mentally rather than physically. Because like I said, I am cowardly and not not like pain.

I just think they could have picked a more appealing fad anyway.

What irritates me most is that those fake cutters make uninformed people think that all cutters are fake. And so people who have genuine problems get all kinds of shit for cutting. People who actually need help get more problems because some dumbass fashion victims create a wrong image of self harm.

Haven't you sworn not to post in this thread anymore?

Bloodraine:

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Good job, too. I've been in real pain before, and I didn't like it, because I am (physically) a coward.

Surely you can see where I'm coming from though...The appeal of cutting as a trend in general. I can understand haircuts. I can understand clothing. I can understand music. I cannot understand the appeal in inflicting un-necessary pain upon yourself for the sake of fashion. I'm not criticizing these teengaers when they do self-harm for genuine reasons, but for smaller things...you can tell they're only doing it because of their 'Scene' culture. Which Is why I said I prefer to deal with these matters mentally rather than physically. Because like I said, I am cowardly and not not like pain.

I just think they could have picked a more appealing fad anyway.

What irritates me most is that those fake cutters make uninformed people think that all cutters are fake. And so people who have genuine problems get all kinds of shit for cutting. People who actually need help get more problems because some dumbass fashion victims create a wrong image of self harm.

Haven't you sworn not to post in this thread anymore?

Ah yes, I'll leave you in peace now. *Back to my corner I go*

I'll leave the faux cutting debate to someone else...

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Good job, too. I've been in real pain before, and I didn't like it, because I am (physically) a coward.

Surely you can see where I'm coming from though...The appeal of cutting as a trend in general. I can understand haircuts. I can understand clothing. I can understand music. I cannot understand the appeal in inflicting un-necessary pain upon yourself for the sake of fashion. I'm not criticizing these teengaers when they do self-harm for genuine reasons, but for smaller things...you can tell they're only doing it because of their 'Scene' culture. Which Is why I said I prefer to deal with these matters mentally rather than physically. Because like I said, I am cowardly and not not like pain.

I just think they could have picked a more appealing fad anyway.

What irritates me most is that those fake cutters make uninformed people think that all cutters are fake. And so people who have genuine problems get all kinds of shit for cutting. People who actually need help get more problems because some dumbass fashion victims create a wrong image of self harm.

Haven't you sworn not to post in this thread anymore?

Ah yes, I'll leave you in peace now. *Back to my corner I go*

I'll leave the faux cutting debate to someone else...

Ah, it's not like I was kicking you out of the thread. I just kinda recalled that you said you'll never post here again and found it interesting that you broke that one again.
Anyway, the whole deal will fake cutting has already been discussed in bright colors many many times - maybe we should just leave it.

Bloodraine:

Fourteen times? (Interesting number, indeed) (Yeah, I went back and I counted...)

Ah, I know what you're saying. You're saying to me: "Megan, you hypocritical little cretin, You're a liar and a promise breaker. Go to bed!"

Nah, I mean, I just can't help it at times...We also agreed to forgive and forget around page 49...Which I took as a sign I could post again [/Off-Topic]

Faith:

Bloodraine:

Fourteen times? (Interesting number, indeed) (Yeah, I went back and I counted...)

Ah, I know what you're saying. You're saying to me: "Megan, you hypocritical little cretin, You're a liar and a promise breaker. Go to bed!"

Nah, I mean, I just can't help it at times...We also agreed to forgive and forget around page 49...Which I took as a sign I could post again [/Off-Topic]

Besides, I don't think you're a cretin (interesting word)

Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.:

these days to me, it's seems like a trend... i know thats sounds bad but thing about it... how many teenagers do those kinda things these days? as if it's like an influence on some people.... that's my opinon anyway, sometimes, it could be tha tpeople jus tdo it to 'fit in' <<that sounds kinda sick but just to like be able to tell a story when they'e older, yknow?

*Blue Star*-GARBIEKINS!!:

Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.:

these days to me, it's seems like a trend... i know thats sounds bad but thing about it... how many teenagers do those kinda things these days? as if it's like an influence on some people.... that's my opinon anyway, sometimes, it could be tha tpeople jus tdo it to 'fit in' <<that sounds kinda sick but just to like be able to tell a story when they'e older, yknow?

Yeah...I think there are alot of kids who think they're hardcore because they hang out with 'goths' and 'punks' and because they think standing out is cool...they try hard to do just that. Some people just seem to think that being miserable is trendy

Bloodraine:

(Also, Faith (Is it okay to call you that?) you're one of the smartest people on here . Definitely not an Idiot )

TearsofBlood:

i dont understand either just that...ppl r crazy O_O

Nine_Inch_Nails:

TearsofBlood:

i dont understand either just that...ppl r crazy O_O

Yeeeah

living_in_repetition:

I doubt that it's a question of wha tyou really wants to do. perhaps the first few times you hurt yourself, but then it get into a urge, an addiction. and when you come so far that you'll commit suicide nothing else except that matters. you dont see bright on anything except death

rehab~reject:

living_in_repetition:

I doubt that it's a question of wha tyou really wants to do. perhaps the first few times you hurt yourself, but then it get into a urge, an addiction. and when you come so far that you'll commit suicide nothing else except that matters. you dont see bright on anything except death

That's true, you get into a state of mind where it's addictive and nothing else really matters.

Sorry I haven't spoken to you in a while, by the way! I haven't been on here in forever, because we lost the stories thread and stuff. Hope you're doing okay =)

living_in_repetition:

I doubt that it's a question of wha tyou really wants to do. perhaps the first few times you hurt yourself, but then it get into a urge, an addiction. and when you come so far that you'll commit suicide nothing else except that matters. you dont see bright on anything except death