Suicide and self harm!

Bloodraine:

fender:

yeah your right, did you know that 95% of teenagers who attempt suicide change thier minds and dont want to die, but that 95% do succeed! if any of you have tried suicide and then changed your minds, you will know that it is so terrifying to feel the effects take thier toll, and then having to make yourself sick, thats how thoose kids die, in fear and regret.

Is it wrong of me to feel little sympathy for those Kids?

Because quite frankly, I don't. People who try to commit suicide are doing it for a good reason; they should have thought long and hard about it. It certainly isn't a spur of the moment thing. Really, I would imagine the descision is quite a tough one to make and requires huge commitment. If they end up regretting it at the last minute, then they should have thought about that first. In fact, I don't think I feel much sympathy for anyone who commits suicide. I think if they are feeling so bad to an extent that they don't want to live, once they're dead I don't pity them. Surely, that is what they wanted, and now they are happy? Surely, bad as it sounds, they're better off dead?. At least then they can be free.

Or do I sound quite callous?

Bloodraine:

fender:

yeah your right, did you know that 95% of teenagers who attempt suicide change thier minds and dont want to die, but that 95% do succeed! if any of you have tried suicide and then changed your minds, you will know that it is so terrifying to feel the effects take thier toll, and then having to make yourself sick, thats how thoose kids die, in fear and regret.

Is it wrong of me to feel little sympathy for those Kids?

Because quite frankly, I don't. People who try to commit suicide are doing it for a good reason; they should have thought long and hard about it. It certainly isn't a spur of the moment thing. Really, I would imagine the descision is quite a tough one to make and requires huge commitment. If they end up regretting it at the last minute, then they should have thought about that first. In fact, I don't think I feel much sympathy for anyone who commits suicide. I think if they are feeling so bad to an extent that they don't want to live, once they're dead I don't pity them. Surely, that is what they wanted, and now they are happy? Surely, bad as it sounds, they're better off dead?. At least then they can be free.

Or do I sound quite callous?

Incubus:

Bloodraine:

fender:

yeah your right, did you know that 95% of teenagers who attempt suicide change thier minds and dont want to die, but that 95% do succeed! if any of you have tried suicide and then changed your minds, you will know that it is so terrifying to feel the effects take thier toll, and then having to make yourself sick, thats how thoose kids die, in fear and regret.

Is it wrong of me to feel little sympathy for those Kids?

Because quite frankly, I don't. People who try to commit suicide are doing it for a good reason; they should have thought long and hard about it. It certainly isn't a spur of the moment thing. Really, I would imagine the descision is quite a tough one to make and requires huge commitment. If they end up regretting it at the last minute, then they should have thought about that first. In fact, I don't think I feel much sympathy for anyone who commits suicide. I think if they are feeling so bad to an extent that they don't want to live, once they're dead I don't pity them. Surely, that is what they wanted, and now they are happy? Surely, bad as it sounds, they're better off dead?. At least then they can be free.

Or do I sound quite callous?

No, I'd be inclined to agree with you there.

fender:

Incubus:

Bloodraine:

fender:

yeah your right, did you know that 95% of teenagers who attempt suicide change thier minds and dont want to die, but that 95% do succeed! if any of you have tried suicide and then changed your minds, you will know that it is so terrifying to feel the effects take thier toll, and then having to make yourself sick, thats how thoose kids die, in fear and regret.

Is it wrong of me to feel little sympathy for those Kids?

Because quite frankly, I don't. People who try to commit suicide are doing it for a good reason; they should have thought long and hard about it. It certainly isn't a spur of the moment thing. Really, I would imagine the descision is quite a tough one to make and requires huge commitment. If they end up regretting it at the last minute, then they should have thought about that first. In fact, I don't think I feel much sympathy for anyone who commits suicide. I think if they are feeling so bad to an extent that they don't want to live, once they're dead I don't pity them. Surely, that is what they wanted, and now they are happy? Surely, bad as it sounds, they're better off dead?. At least then they can be free.

Or do I sound quite callous?

No, I'd be inclined to agree with you there.

to an extent you are right, but some times until its almost gone you dont quite realize what you have!

american_idiot_94:

Lunchbox:

american_idiot_94:

Lunchbox:

I used to think about it alot. I've stoped now. I even stopt cutting myself.
It's a bit scary, but most people are depressed lately.

most people pretend to be depressed to fit the "goth/punk/emo" sterotype.....

Yeah, but what about older people (like 30-40 years)
I don't think they are trying to be goth or whatever.

well i wasnt really implying that for that age group....im talking more like teenagers or what have you....even people on this site, i think, pretend to be depressed...

Meat Head:

american_idiot_94:

Lunchbox:

american_idiot_94:

Lunchbox:

I used to think about it alot. I've stoped now. I even stopt cutting myself.
It's a bit scary, but most people are depressed lately.

most people pretend to be depressed to fit the "goth/punk/emo" sterotype.....

Yeah, but what about older people (like 30-40 years)
I don't think they are trying to be goth or whatever.

well i wasnt really implying that for that age group....im talking more like teenagers or what have you....even people on this site, i think, pretend to be depressed...

its very common for doctors to want to put has many people as possible on anti depressants. Because they get paid for evry prescription they write

My doctor told me it's very common for teenagers to be depressed.

tre_cool_is_god:

fender:

Incubus:

Bloodraine:

fender:

yeah your right, did you know that 95% of teenagers who attempt suicide change thier minds and dont want to die, but that 95% do succeed! if any of you have tried suicide and then changed your minds, you will know that it is so terrifying to feel the effects take thier toll, and then having to make yourself sick, thats how thoose kids die, in fear and regret.

Is it wrong of me to feel little sympathy for those Kids?

Because quite frankly, I don't. People who try to commit suicide are doing it for a good reason; they should have thought long and hard about it. It certainly isn't a spur of the moment thing. Really, I would imagine the descision is quite a tough one to make and requires huge commitment. If they end up regretting it at the last minute, then they should have thought about that first. In fact, I don't think I feel much sympathy for anyone who commits suicide. I think if they are feeling so bad to an extent that they don't want to live, once they're dead I don't pity them. Surely, that is what they wanted, and now they are happy? Surely, bad as it sounds, they're better off dead?. At least then they can be free.

Or do I sound quite callous?

No, I'd be inclined to agree with you there.

to an extent you are right, but some times until its almost gone you dont quite realize what you have!

ok i have to admit that i am finding myself agreeing with both of you

+Messiahofthe7-11+:

I'm questioning my worth as a human and being my existence.
I really can't take my family, my freinds, my school and the people in it, my life.
I just wanna effin leve it all behind, runaway- something. I don't know. All I know is I can't take it anymore!!!

the17th-minority:

I know how it feels to just want to leave everything that makes your life seem horrible behind. I have wanted to run away from home for the past 3 weeks now. But, I just can't think of living away from my Dad. Even since my mom is away for education (course) for a week. They couldn't live if they didn't have me. Well, at least that is what I say to myself.

Faith:

*~Extraordinary_Girl~*:

Maybe, but what I'm saying is why end your life for something that's going wrong now, when you don't know. It could completely turn around. It's like I said. A permanent problem for a temporary solution. And I'm sad for the people that think that killing themself is the only way to deal, but I don't pity them, cuz it's not. Fix your problems. Don't feel so sorry for yourself that you can't live anymore, it's in a way pathetic. Sorry if I sound like a heartless bitch by the way...

No, you don't sound like a heartless bitch. Just like a person who needs to READ THE FUCKING THREAD!!! I'm really tired of proving the same shit wrong. I've already said all this on page 13, page 23, page 39 or whatever...About "everything will change" too. Not all things will change. When people kill themselves - they don't kill themselves because their boyfriend dumped them or because they feel shitty right now. It's because of an unfixable problem. And just because you don't see it or don't know about it, it doesn't mean it's not there. Not everything is changable. If one kills themselves - they have a reason. And whatever the fuck it is, it's pretty damn big. Maybe not to you, but to them. And that's what matters.

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...but all of them believe their life cannot be repaired and they will continue to believe it if you talk to them or think of them like they are inferior or not human

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seriously, make a friend with a suicidal, some of the most unique people you will meet

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over time they will lose their desire to kill themselves.....but it is a gradual process and you can't just tell them shit you read in a health book and think that it's right

katrina_000:

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...but all of them believe their life cannot be repaired and they will continue to believe it if you talk to them or think of them like they are inferior or not human

ok, I get it. but what way should you treat them? I mean, they want to kill themselves, they think their life is a mess (indeed). if i ever treat with a suicidal i would certainly feel sorry for him, it's hard for me try to understand what's wrong with life; of course, i'd do my best to try him/her not to slit his wrists or something, but if it doens't work I'd feel guilty bout his/her death.

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seriously, make a friend with a suicidal, some of the most unique people you will meet

but, how can I know they are suicidals? do they come to you and say 'hey, I'm a suicidal'?

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over time they will lose their desire to kill themselves.....but it is a gradual process and you can't just tell them shit you read in a health book and think that it's right

again: what if you become the main source of their pain and that makes them kill themselves?

let me tell I have nothing against suicidals, I once thought bout killing myself, but therapy really helped...me (I know it doens't work for somebody).

paradoxical:

1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.

spill_no_sick:

seriously, make a friend with a suicidal

paradoxical:

You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant.

Bloodraine:

paradoxical:

1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.

No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.

spill_no_sick:

seriously, make a friend with a suicidal

paradoxical:

Yes, but not just because they're suicidal.

Bloodraine:

paradoxical:

Yes, but not just because they're suicidal.

Really?

I'm confused now. His post didn't appear to indicate that. Perhaps I should have looked for a deeper meaning.

Bloodraine:

No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.

paradoxical:

... not just because they're suicidal.