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Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 11th, 2006 at 01:04pm katrina_000:well, it's pretty easy...
Bloodraine:No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
...but...
paradoxical:... not just because they're suicidal.
It's like: first: you have the friend, then you discover he is a suicidal, and then you try to help him. No other way. Not because he is a suicidal you're gonna be his friend. either way, i think than you won't know a person is a suicidal 'til he or she tells you bout it. you'll be a friend to him or her by then, so you'll have a suicidal friend that needs your help...
 i don't think it's clear enought for ya, but wtf...
Three cheers for intelligible brain vomit! |
Matt Smith
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  | February 11th, 2006 at 01:05pm paradoxical:Bloodraine:paradoxical:Yes, but not just because they're suicidal.
Really?
I'm confused now. His post didn't appear to indicate that. Perhaps I should have looked for a deeper meaning. Life would be so much easier if we all could just communicate in a series of clicks and beeps...-_-
The way he said it, I think he left a few words out. Like "If" you make friends with a suicidal, "you'll find" they're some of the most unique people...
Because having seen all the posts he's made, do you really think he'd condone being friends with a person for that reason alone? I'm pretty certain that he wouldn't. Within the context of the rest of that post (this is the problem with only quoting part of a post, it gets taken out of context), to assume that he did mean to be friends with a suicidal because they are suicidal woud be directly contradictory.
I'm not certain of anyone or anything on here...because I don't know anyone and I don't know what anyone really means because I can't tell unless I speak to someone properly.
Perhaps he could come back one day and explain to us both what he really meant, but i'd assume you're right. This highlights the problems I have communicating with people online...I'm just not intuitive enough. |
Last Kennedy Alive
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Posts: 324 | February 11th, 2006 at 01:06pm paradoxical:katrina_000:well, it's pretty easy...
Bloodraine:No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
...but...
paradoxical:... not just because they're suicidal.
It's like: first: you have the friend, then you discover he is a suicidal, and then you try to help him. No other way. Not because he is a suicidal you're gonna be his friend. either way, i think than you won't know a person is a suicidal 'til he or she tells you bout it. you'll be a friend to him or her by then, so you'll have a suicidal friend that needs your help...
i don't think it's clear enought for ya, but wtf...
Three cheers for intelligible brain vomit!
uhh... thank you??
wht's your fuckin' problem? |
Nine_Inch_Nails
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8334 | February 11th, 2006 at 01:08pm paradoxical:katrina_000:well, it's pretty easy...
Bloodraine:No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
...but...
paradoxical:... not just because they're suicidal.
It's like: first: you have the friend, then you discover he is a suicidal, and then you try to help him. No other way. Not because he is a suicidal you're gonna be his friend. either way, i think than you won't know a person is a suicidal 'til he or she tells you bout it. you'll be a friend to him or her by then, so you'll have a suicidal friend that needs your help...
i don't think it's clear enought for ya, but wtf...
Three cheers for intelligible brain vomit!
O________O |
Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 11th, 2006 at 01:13pm katrina_000:paradoxical:katrina_000:well, it's pretty easy...
Bloodraine:No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
...but...
paradoxical:... not just because they're suicidal.
It's like: first: you have the friend, then you discover he is a suicidal, and then you try to help him. No other way. Not because he is a suicidal you're gonna be his friend. either way, i think than you won't know a person is a suicidal 'til he or she tells you bout it. you'll be a friend to him or her by then, so you'll have a suicidal friend that needs your help...
i don't think it's clear enought for ya, but wtf...
Three cheers for intelligible brain vomit!
uhh... thank you??
wht's your fuckin' problem?
Problem? That was a compliment... |
Nine_Inch_Nails
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8334 | February 11th, 2006 at 01:17pm Ahh! |
Last Kennedy Alive
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Posts: 324 | February 11th, 2006 at 09:41pm it was??? 
wow!
your sucha.... something!
whatever, nobody answered MY question...
what if you become the main source of his/her pain, and you are the reason the killed themselves, and they let you know before thet did?? |
Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 11th, 2006 at 09:46pm katrina_000:it was???
wow!
your sucha.... something!
whatever, nobody answered MY question...
what if you become the main source of his/her pain, and you are the reason the killed themselves, and they let you know before thet did?? Then you're a terrible person and you'll never be able to forget that. Because if you're the cause of the pain, you aren't reallly a friend. |
spill_no_sick
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 31
Gender: -
Posts: 8588 | February 11th, 2006 at 10:22pm Bloodraine:paradoxical:
1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.
No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
spill_no_sick:seriously, make a friend with a suicidal
he meant that suicidals don't usually have many friends, and if they do their friends are very detatched an care less
I'll put it this way, everybody has a best friend, most people are considered to be a best friend by some one; most suicidals aren't even considered to be in the top ten of people's best friends
I went to a school where (literally) if you didn't hate me then you didn't care about me
even the teachers showed apathy or hate
I probably wouldn't have attempted suicide then if I had at least one friend (that didn't stab me in the back)
I take that back: I had A friend; she helped a lot, but still
I just mean that suicidals are usually clueless as how to be normal, so they're interesting
they will also care a lot about you (no matter how much text books say that you can't respect others without self-respect, lonely people will love anyone who talks to them
seriously, all I mean is talk to a person that always sits alone; talk to some one who is constantly picked on
please
it may be me
it may save some one's life |
spill_no_sick
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 31
Gender: -
Posts: 8588 | February 11th, 2006 at 10:25pm katrina_000:well, it's pretty easy...
Bloodraine:No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
...but...
paradoxical:... not just because they're suicidal.
It's like: first: you have the friend, then you discover he is a suicidal, and then you try to help him. No other way. Not because he is a suicidal you're gonna be his friend. either way, i think than you won't know a person is a suicidal 'til he or she tells you bout it. you'll be a friend to him or her by then, so you'll have a suicidal friend that needs your help...
i don't think it's clear enought for ya, but wtf... it's easy to tell if some one is lonely or hates themself.....you just have to care (which almost any country that's been Americanized finds dificult |
Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 11th, 2006 at 10:29pm spill_no_sick:Bloodraine:paradoxical:
1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.
No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
spill_no_sick:seriously, make a friend with a suicidal
he meant that suicidals don't usually have many friends, and if they do their friends are very detatched an care less
I'll put it this way, everybody has a best friend, most people are considered to be a best friend by some one; most suicidals aren't even considered to be in the top ten of people's best friends
I went to a school where (literally) if you didn't hate me then you didn't care about me
even the teachers showed apathy or hate
I probably wouldn't have attempted suicide then if I had at least one friend (that didn't stab me in the back)
I take that back: I had A friend; she helped a lot, but still
I just mean that suicidals are usually clueless as how to be normal, so they're interesting
they will also care a lot about you (no matter how much text books say that you can't respect others without self-respect, lonely people will love anyone who talks to them
seriously, all I mean is talk to a person that always sits alone; talk to some one who is constantly picked on
please
it may be me
it may save some one's life
I would talk to you.
I did talk to you. More interesting, though, you talked to me, after you heard out my argument (even though you disagree) instead of deleting all my posts. And I made a friend out of the deal, a really good one.
And I'm really glad. Because no matter how much we generally have in common, you never fail to surprise me. [/cheesy moment]
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spill_no_sick
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 31
Gender: -
Posts: 8588 | February 11th, 2006 at 11:39pm paradoxical:spill_no_sick:Bloodraine:paradoxical:
1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.
No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
spill_no_sick:seriously, make a friend with a suicidal
he meant that suicidals don't usually have many friends, and if they do their friends are very detatched an care less
I'll put it this way, everybody has a best friend, most people are considered to be a best friend by some one; most suicidals aren't even considered to be in the top ten of people's best friends
I went to a school where (literally) if you didn't hate me then you didn't care about me
even the teachers showed apathy or hate
I probably wouldn't have attempted suicide then if I had at least one friend (that didn't stab me in the back)
I take that back: I had A friend; she helped a lot, but still
I just mean that suicidals are usually clueless as how to be normal, so they're interesting
they will also care a lot about you (no matter how much text books say that you can't respect others without self-respect, lonely people will love anyone who talks to them
seriously, all I mean is talk to a person that always sits alone; talk to some one who is constantly picked on
please
it may be me
it may save some one's life
I would talk to you.
I did talk to you. More interesting, though, you talked to me, after you heard out my argument (even though you disagree) instead of deleting all my posts. And I made a friend out of the deal, a really good one.
And I'm really glad. Because no matter how much we generally have in common, you never fail to surprise me. [/cheesy moment]
good thing there aren't Disney talent scouts here, they'd totally steal you |
Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 12th, 2006 at 03:54pm spill_no_sick:paradoxical:spill_no_sick:Bloodraine:paradoxical:
1. You shouldn't be friends with someone just because they're suicidal, that's not what he meant. Friendship and suicide are seperate entity, what he means (as I interpreted it) is that a friend who is suicidal should be treated no differently than a friend who isn't, instead of acting like they're so fragile that the friendship is bull instead of the real friendship they need. A real friend can be enough to make the mess of their life seem less messy.
No, I think he was suggesting that making friends with a suicidal person would give you a better insight as to how they think and feel, and how to help them. It's good advice, by all means. You can't fully understand without knowing someone with suicidal tendancies.
spill_no_sick:seriously, make a friend with a suicidal
he meant that suicidals don't usually have many friends, and if they do their friends are very detatched an care less
I'll put it this way, everybody has a best friend, most people are considered to be a best friend by some one; most suicidals aren't even considered to be in the top ten of people's best friends
I went to a school where (literally) if you didn't hate me then you didn't care about me
even the teachers showed apathy or hate
I probably wouldn't have attempted suicide then if I had at least one friend (that didn't stab me in the back)
I take that back: I had A friend; she helped a lot, but still
I just mean that suicidals are usually clueless as how to be normal, so they're interesting
they will also care a lot about you (no matter how much text books say that you can't respect others without self-respect, lonely people will love anyone who talks to them
seriously, all I mean is talk to a person that always sits alone; talk to some one who is constantly picked on
please
it may be me
it may save some one's life
I would talk to you.
I did talk to you. More interesting, though, you talked to me, after you heard out my argument (even though you disagree) instead of deleting all my posts. And I made a friend out of the deal, a really good one.
And I'm really glad. Because no matter how much we generally have in common, you never fail to surprise me. [/cheesy moment]
good thing there aren't Disney talent scouts here, they'd totally steal you  It's true 
But of course, you aren't guilty of any cheesy moments...  |
yeahdude
King For A Couple Of Days
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Gender: -
Posts: 2307 | February 12th, 2006 at 04:56pm paradoxical:katrina_000:it was???
wow!
your sucha.... something!
whatever, nobody answered MY question...
what if you become the main source of his/her pain, and you are the reason the killed themselves, and they let you know before thet did?? Then you're a terrible person and you'll never be able to forget that. [b]Because if you're the cause of the pain, you aren't reallly a friend. [/b]
what a bullshit :/ |
Kitti
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 5688 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:03pm yeahdude:paradoxical:katrina_000:it was???
wow!
your sucha.... something!
whatever, nobody answered MY question...
what if you become the main source of his/her pain, and you are the reason the killed themselves, and they let you know before thet did?? Then you're a terrible person and you'll never be able to forget that. [b]Because if you're the cause of the pain, you aren't reallly a friend. [/b]
what a bullshit :/
Causing pain is inevitable, yes, but a friend is rarely the main source of pain--it's hardly friendship when that is the case. That is to say, when the bad outweighs the good, it stops being friendship, friendship is supposed to be a positive thing and if it's not, what remains can hardly be defined as such. |
yeahdude
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Posts: 2307 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:13pm guys, leave this topic alone... sorry but it's gettiing more and more stupid in here (i don't want to insult anybody) |
spill_no_sick
Falling In Love With The Board
Age: 31
Gender: -
Posts: 8588 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:21pm yeahdude:guys, leave this topic alone... sorry but it's gettiing more and more stupid in here (i don't want to insult anybody) hey, I try to get people to quote my huge posts but they don't so I don't know what I'm saying that's stupid |
11th Street Kid
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Posts: 3645 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:29pm spill_no_sick:yeahdude:guys, leave this topic alone... sorry but it's gettiing more and more stupid in here (i don't want to insult anybody) hey, I try to get people to quote my huge posts but they don't so I don't know what I'm saying that's stupid
What you say isn't stupid. It just takes long to read and .. I guess there's some people on here who are too lazy to read it. Plus, I don't usually quote your speeches because you make good points and I mostly agree. |
yeahdude
King For A Couple Of Days
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Posts: 2307 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:30pm it's generally about the topic, you guys keep repeating the same things, it's hard not to do it cuz who wanna read 77 pages before but it just doesn't make senese anymore. |
11th Street Kid
King For A Couple Of Days
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Posts: 3645 | February 12th, 2006 at 05:33pm Hmmm.. true. Someone makes a good point, we have a little argument. It's over. Randomer comes along and starts it again. -.-' |
