suzie_k Falling In Love With The Board Age: 39 Gender: Female Posts: 8288
July 16th, 2006 at 09:56am
my_friends_call_me_billie:
depression sucks... but its not worth your life, especially at the age of 16, and so on. i mean, it doesnt matter how much your life sucks at the time because as soon as you're 18, you get to pretty much start over. i mean, there's always amsterdam, right? lol
You say "it's not worth your life" the fact is people feel their life is worthless or that they themselves have no worth.
And as for starting over when your 18, it's not that simple.
Your life doesn't just magicaly change when you reach 18.
Infact for alot of people problems start at 18.
I know thats how it was for me.
Brendon Urie.. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 2394
July 16th, 2006 at 01:20pm
suzie_k:
my_friends_call_me_billie:
depression sucks... but its not worth your life, especially at the age of 16, and so on. i mean, it doesnt matter how much your life sucks at the time because as soon as you're 18, you get to pretty much start over. i mean, there's always amsterdam, right? lol
You say "it's not worth your life" the fact is people feel their life is worthless or that they themselves have no worth.
And as for starting over when your 18, it's not that simple.
Your life doesn't just magicaly change when you reach 18.
Infact for alot of people problems start at 18.
I know thats how it was for me.
Ok, I'm only 14 and right now, I am depressed. I will be the first to admit it. Though I know people love me, I still feel deperssed. It's somthing I cant handle. I am just down. But I dont kut, I skrach. It brings the pain, not the blood. When someone punches your nose because your thumb hurts, it's the same thing. You hurt yourself to rid the pain of being depressed.
robotchicken. Falling In Love With The Board Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 8423
July 17th, 2006 at 12:12am
GDfamilymember:
Ok, I'm only 14 and right now, I am depressed. I will be the first to admit it. Though I know people love me, I still feel deperssed. It's somthing I cant handle. I am just down. But I dont kut, I skrach. It brings the pain, not the blood. When someone punches your nose because your thumb hurts, it's the same thing. You hurt yourself to rid the pain of being depressed.
we know. sorry if that sounded mean e_e
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
July 17th, 2006 at 04:43am
Sheepo@_@:
GDfamilymember:
Ok, I'm only 14 and right now, I am depressed. I will be the first to admit it. Though I know people love me, I still feel deperssed. It's somthing I cant handle. I am just down. But I dont kut, I skrach. It brings the pain, not the blood. When someone punches your nose because your thumb hurts, it's the same thing. You hurt yourself to rid the pain of being depressed.
we know. sorry if that sounded mean e_e
many younger people are depressed now but they are not hurting themselves, i guess i couldnt understand it until i am there, but my son who is 14 is Bi - Polar and heis medication for depression and many other medications but he isnt cutting or self harming
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 17th, 2006 at 07:22am
Magne:
Sheepo@_@:
GDfamilymember:
Ok, I'm only 14 and right now, I am depressed. I will be the first to admit it. Though I know people love me, I still feel deperssed. It's somthing I cant handle. I am just down. But I dont kut, I skrach. It brings the pain, not the blood. When someone punches your nose because your thumb hurts, it's the same thing. You hurt yourself to rid the pain of being depressed.
we know. sorry if that sounded mean e_e
many younger people are depressed now but they are not hurting themselves, i guess i couldnt understand it until i am there, but my son who is 14 is Bi - Polar and heis medication for depression and many other medications but he isnt cutting or self harming
Wow, way to make people with depression, or anyone who cuts them selves, or hurts themselves in any way, or purpose, totally shit.
Listen to this. Everyone is different. Just because your son doesn't cut or self harm in anyway doesn't mean others should be strong enough not to, it just means they've started something that makes them feel better. So you know, just the way you said it, made it seem like you were expecting the same thing from everyone, that they shouldn't self hard, and thats rediculous, because not everyone is strong enough not to, or to stop.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 17th, 2006 at 07:24am
Oh, and you said yourself that you've never been in that situation where you self harm yourself. So, really, you don't know what its like, and how hard it is to stop, and refrain from doing it.
technicaly i shouldnt be here right now.... i have never actually tried self harming or suicide but i got bullied and wen i say bullied i dont mean a few ppl said some bad words to me i mean 3 attempts on my life 4 official cases of assult (one still ongoing tryin to find out more) 7 consistant years of living in fear and i still pretty much do. and ppl say i get bullied now but for me its a break cos its not nearly half as bad as it was and recenly i only got one brick chucked at my window.. thank god for double glazing cos otherwise it would have smashed.
so wen ppl tell me well ur life is better then think again cos most ppl have gone through half of wat i have and arnt here.. i should know cos my friend carlena is now no longer alive... and she got it way less bad then i did.
so wen i say its not worth it and just... well keep going i mean it.
i would like my friends and nice ppl alive thank you very much. we need more nice ppl and less assholes in this world so all you nice ppl do everyone a favour and stay alive
I've considered it. But I don't like pain, though. And I'm too lazy to actually do it. There's no reason people should be killing themselves. Maybe if they have crappy lives, but they could always escape. But if your boyfriend dumps you, you don't need to kill yourself. However, you can't stop anyone from doing it.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 18th, 2006 at 02:54am
Rockaholic380:
I've considered it. But I don't like pain, though. And I'm too lazy to actually do it. There's no reason people should be killing themselves. Maybe if they have crappy lives, but they could always escape. But if your boyfriend dumps you, you don't need to kill yourself. However, you can't stop anyone from doing it.
Yeah. But you make it sound so superficial, that you kill yourself when your boyfriend dumps you. But what if that boyfriend was the love of your life?
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
July 18th, 2006 at 06:05am
Coff:
Oh, and you said yourself that you've never been in that situation where you self harm yourself. So, really, you don't know what its like, and how hard it is to stop, and refrain from doing it.
no but i have been through other things thankyou, much worse things than cutting and self harming, and i know how hard it is to stop the things that make you feel better about yourself, self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want, that is just MY take on it and not yours.
So never judge a book by its cover.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 18th, 2006 at 08:19am
Magne:
Coff:
Oh, and you said yourself that you've never been in that situation where you self harm yourself. So, really, you don't know what its like, and how hard it is to stop, and refrain from doing it.
no but i have been through other things thankyou, much worse things than cutting and self harming, and i know how hard it is to stop the things that make you feel better about yourself, self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want, that is just MY take on it and not yours.
So never judge a book by its cover.
No, it came out bitchy, I didn't mean it like "Well, you have no clue what you're talking about". Imeant, well, you said just then "self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want".
I mean, I would never ever ever ever self harm to make people feel sorry for me. So, thats kind of a stereotypical view on it, and I suppose its one shared by a lot of people, because of all the people who do get attention are those who thrive in it, and are doing it for the reaction. I mean the show offs, not the ones who just want to let someone know something is wrong.
So, its not like that, no way not for most people. I mean. "Oh, I cant have this. I think I'll go cut my self, and now my mother will buy it for me". Thats rediculous! And thats why I said "You haven't self harmed, so you don't know what its like, and the reasoning behind it" because, by statements by that, it seems true! Because that is just so wrong, kids don't self harm because they want a new toy, they self harm because they hate themselves, or its a way of coping, and dealing with the pain, or because they become addicted and dependant on it.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
July 18th, 2006 at 08:34am
Coff:
Magne:
Coff:
Oh, and you said yourself that you've never been in that situation where you self harm yourself. So, really, you don't know what its like, and how hard it is to stop, and refrain from doing it.
no but i have been through other things thankyou, much worse things than cutting and self harming, and i know how hard it is to stop the things that make you feel better about yourself, self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want, that is just MY take on it and not yours.
So never judge a book by its cover.
No, it came out bitchy, I didn't mean it like "Well, you have no clue what you're talking about". Imeant, well, you said just then "self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want".
I mean, I would never ever ever ever self harm to make people feel sorry for me. So, thats kind of a stereotypical view on it, and I suppose its one shared by a lot of people, because of all the people who do get attention are those who thrive in it, and are doing it for the reaction. I mean the show offs, not the ones who just want to let someone know something is wrong.
So, its not like that, no way not for most people. I mean. "Oh, I cant have this. I think I'll go cut my self, and now my mother will buy it for me". Thats rediculous! And thats why I said "You haven't self harmed, so you don't know what its like, and the reasoning behind it" because, by statements by that, it seems true! Because that is just so wrong, kids don't self harm because they want a new toy, they self harm because they hate themselves, or its a way of coping, and dealing with the pain, or because they become addicted and dependant on it.
yeah i agree some self harm for depression and there is somthing wrong in they're lifes, but some self harm to get the new shiny stereo, or somthing like that, anf perhaps yeah that was a bit stereotypicle of me to say what i did, i haveny cut myself NO, but i have hurt myself in many other ways to release tension and to punish myself to a certain extent aswell. My self harm was drink, and somtimes drugs, not the heavy shit like cocaine but dope.
i think that no one should ever have to get to the point where they need ro harm themselves but i'm not trying to be offensive to anyone who has or is experiencing depression
i think that no one should ever have to get to the point where they need ro harm themselves but i'm not trying to be offensive to anyone who has or is experiencing depression
They shouldnt get tp that point, it's terrible, but they do, and it isnt always their fault.
Yeah I agree It's a fucking shame that some people get to the point of thinking there is no other way to cope or deal with what they are going through. But it's not their fault. I mean I dont think anyone WANTS to believe there's no other way, do you? It's just everything, life, society, your family, friends.... I'm not saying they make you self harm or anything. But they could make you believe there's nothing else you can do than that. Not on purpose though, of course. You just can't find anything else to relieve frustrations and everything that builds up inside you. You don't believe in them or you've tried and they didn't work. So maybe I am wrong. Maybe it's not just believing there's no other way, maybe it just is your way to cope. It's certainly not heathly and a sad thing, but it is a damn way to deal.
I had a friend that cut, and she once told me her reasons and what it is to her. I don't think I understand it all am i'm not saying I am, but it made me think a lot. I dunno, maybe you do self harm to not feel the pain of beeing depressed or suffering of something. or to be able to take control of at least something in your life when everything else goes wrong.
I know you all have your reasons. And if you just do it to get attention or some nice things.... that's kinda a mental issue as well. it's poor, yeah, but such people would need a therapy as well, if "serious" self hamers do. I mean almost everyone says self harmers should do a therapy. i'm not sure about that. there are enough people that a therapy just doesnt work for. Only you what's the best for you there. I'm not the one to tell what you gotta do.
no but i have been through other things thankyou, much worse things than cutting and self harming, and i know how hard it is to stop the things that make you feel better about yourself, self harming is just a way of making people feal sorry for you or even to give you want you want, that is just MY take on it and not yours.
So never judge a book by its cover.
Magne,
I am sorry you went through whatever it is you went through that, in your mind, are much worse then self-harm (adding cutting is a bit redundent), however . Self-harm is not by any means (atleast it's not meant to and shouldn't be) a way to make people feel sorry for you. It is a coping mechanism to deal with things that are painful. For me, I was never allowed to show emotion in my household, my father found it as a weakness and would hit me if so much as a tear welled up in my eye. But this is not a "pity-me" story, it is just an example or something painful. When there's nothing else to do, cutting (or any form of self-harm) is such a relief. There's so much control...or atleast the illusion of it. And when all the endorphins are rushing through your body, you actually feel...well... okay. It's a lot like drinking to make yourself feel better. It works for the moment, but tomorrow it's still there, so, you drink again, until you become numb.
I can't say whatever you've went through was worse then SI or not because well 1) Everyone's standards of pain and suffering are based on comparision of their previous experiences and 2) well... I don't know what it is. But I can say that regardless of how you feel towards other members here, or, how they've treated you, you've no right to claim something you have no knowledge of, as you admit to never doing it before (not that I'm suggesting it!)
Sylar Falling In Love With The Board Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 5703
July 25th, 2006 at 02:32am
This may have been said before, but I hate how people think self harm is without doubt going to lead to suicide.
I don't want to sound 'emo' or whatever term is being used now, but I've been cutting for years and although suicide has crossed my mind, I don't think I'll ever go through with it. Cutting is simply a way for myself and many other people of coping with pain felt emotionally. I'm not proud of it, and never display my scars, but I enjoy the slight release I feel with each cut.
Bash me all you want, but I can honestly say nothing will come of it.
MY POINT IS (having gone and got horribly off topic) that not all people who cut are suicidal blah blah blah and a lot of those people who cut, you probably wouldn't even know they did it unless they divulged that information to you.
[quote="Mikko Lindstrom"]This may have been said before, but I hate how people think self harm is without doubt going to lead to suicide.
I don't want to sound 'emo' or whatever term is being used now, but I've been cutting for years and although suicide has crossed my mind, I don't think I'll ever go through with it. Cutting is simply a way for myself and many other people of coping with pain felt emotionally. I'm not proud of it, and never display my scars, but I enjoy the slight release I feel with each cut.
Bash me all you want, but I can honestly say nothing will come of it.
MY POINT IS (having gone and got horribly off topic) that not all people who cut are suicidal blah blah blah and a lot of those people who cut, you probably wouldn't even know they did it unless they divulged that information to you.[/quote]
i agree in that bit...
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 25th, 2006 at 06:04am
Mikko Lindstrom:
This may have been said before, but I hate how people think self harm is without doubt going to lead to suicide.
I don't want to sound 'emo' or whatever term is being used now, but I've been cutting for years and although suicide has crossed my mind, I don't think I'll ever go through with it. Cutting is simply a way for myself and many other people of coping with pain felt emotionally. I'm not proud of it, and never display my scars, but I enjoy the slight release I feel with each cut.
Bash me all you want, but I can honestly say nothing will come of it.
MY POINT IS (having gone and got horribly off topic) that not all people who cut are suicidal blah blah blah and a lot of those people who cut, you probably wouldn't even know they did it unless they divulged that information to you.
Yeah. I agree with all, except for that bit where you said "I don't want to sound emo". Except I already had that rant with/to you in the old thinking thread. And I know you're not being stupid, because you agreed with me.
