Peter Petrelli King For A Couple Of Days Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 4161
November 3rd, 2006 at 02:33pm
The EMOnator:
I know a quite few persons who self-harm and just *one* of them did it as a way to get attention from others.
When I first started thinking about self harm, I did think about it as a way to get myself attention, because I wanted someone to see how much pain I was in.
When it came to it, I hurt myself and couldn't show ANYONE because I felt so ashamed. And that made things worse, because then I felt like I was lying to people.
To use it as a form of attention seeking, it's pretty calculated. I couldn't do it, and afterwards I couldn't understand how anyone else could either.
I used to cut, and for a bit was pretty suicidal.
My arm is kinda messed up now and scarred very nicely. Spring now, so summers coming up. Only my family and one good friend knows, I wanna let some of my other good friends know but yeah. Heh, a little hard to come out and mention.
Normally I wouldnt say anything, but hiding something like this is hard. Like, every day I freak someone might question me wearing a jumper or grab my arm for some reason.
I guess, I need an opinion. Do I tell or not.
If I do it would be in the holidays, after the ever-so-stressful exams. Friends might get angry, upset, abuse etc etc... thing is, they're not so well themselves. One has depression, one always is worrying/not sleeping, and another has some home problems and tends to get angry.
Yet keeping this secret is hard, funnily...I found once my family knew I felt so much better. I didnt have to hold it anymore, and I began feeling a lot better. Then the stress of school plus this began creeping in again, making me feel crummy. Holding this is like its eating me on the inside. So...yeah.
Plus, they're my friends right? Shouldnt they have a right to know.
Eh...this confuses me. Sorry for it being excessivly long.
Well, I can relate to you inmensely. I think if you told your family you definitely have the courage to tell your friends, and that's all you need, corage. There's nothing to be ashamed of about self-harm, really, is/was your way to cope, and by letting people know about your "issue" you're...spreading awareness, let's say, which is a positive thing for society, IMO.
I know *I* would never get the words out of my mouth, "I cut myself", I just can't express myself so openly about anything, really. *I* would let them know by wearing a short sleeved shirt one day or something like that. It's not my case though. But I say go for it, let them know if you think that's what you want. And by the sounds of it, who knows, you might get a surprise and find out one of them is going through the same thign or has cut themselves before.
Well, I can relate to you inmensely. I think if you told your family you definitely have the courage to tell your friends, and that's all you need, corage. There's nothing to be ashamed of about self-harm, really, is/was your way to cope, and by letting people know about your "issue" you're...spreading awareness, let's say, which is a positive thing for society, IMO.
I know *I* would never get the words out of my mouth, "I cut myself", I just can't express myself so openly about anything, really. *I* would let them know by wearing a short sleeved shirt one day or something like that. It's not my case though. But I say go for it, let them know if you think that's what you want. And by the sounds of it, who knows, you might get a surprise and find out one of them is going through the same thign or has cut themselves before.
That is true. Your a very clever person Mr bloodrain. BUt our pastor always says that if you commit suicide or self harm you wouldnt be with GOD.. but thats just his veiws.
So I suppose your pastor has long talks with God everyday with tea and crumpets and knows exactly how God feels. And that he would cast away his own children that are going through hard times and confusion and pain?
no wai, Mikey Wai! Falling In Love With The Board Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 6232
November 8th, 2006 at 03:45pm
^ agreed
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
November 9th, 2006 at 05:33am
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That is true. Your a very clever person Mr bloodrain. BUt our pastor always says that if you commit suicide or self harm you wouldnt be with GOD.. but thats just his veiws.
So I suppose your pastor has long talks with God everyday with tea and crumpets and knows exactly how God feels. And that he would cast away his own children that are going through hard times and confusion and pain?
actually it states in the bible that one should not thrown away gods greatest gift because it is seen on has a great sin and it goes onto say that we will spend the rest of eternity in hell.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
November 9th, 2006 at 05:43am
Lucifers Angel:
actually it states in the bible that one should not thrown away gods greatest gift because it is seen on has a great sin and it goes onto say that we will spend the rest of eternity in hell.
Do you have that quote?
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
November 9th, 2006 at 05:44am
Coff:
Lucifers Angel:
actually it states in the bible that one should not thrown away gods greatest gift because it is seen on has a great sin and it goes onto say that we will spend the rest of eternity in hell.
Do you have that quote?
i'll look it up for you.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
November 9th, 2006 at 05:46am
If Someone Commits Suicide, Can They Still Go To Heaven?
(What the Bible Says About Suicide)
Some people may be reading this page with “more than casual interest.” Therefore, we must remind you that we are not Christian counselors and each person must seek one for help with a serious issue like this. When choosing to work with a Christian counselor, it is each person’s responsibility to ask pertinent questions before beginning to confirm their qualities and abilities.
The Key Issue
That said, the first thing to consider with this question is, did the person get right with God and live right for God before they died? People do not make it to heaven, regardless of how they died, if they had not yet accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. That is, suicide is not the issue regarding whether a person goes to heaven. Getting right with God is the issue. You can learn how people get right with God by clicking on this sentence.
Is Suicide Murdering Yourself?
You are probably aware that the Bible strictly forbids murdering anyone. Therefore, some people have stated that people who commit suicide will be judged as murderers (of themselves) and therefore could not reasonably expect to go to heaven. However, the Bible reveals that people can not “murder” themselves. As one example, look at the Ten Commandments in Exodus chapter 20, verses 1-17 (Exodus 20:1-17). The first four Commandments specify our behavior towards God:
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make for yourself a carved image. . . .
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. . . .
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The last six Commandments specify our behavior towards other people:
5. Honor your father and your mother. . . .
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet . . . anything that is your neighbor’s.
Notice that with the exception of the sixth commandment, you can not do them to yourself. This makes sense when you realize that the book of Exodus is one of the books of “The Law.” That is, it primarily defines civil laws”the type of laws that would be tried in a court today. Therefore, applying such laws “against yourself” makes no sense. You would find the same concept in other areas of the Bible”murder applies to killing other people, not yourself.
Suicide is not OK
That does not mean that suicide is OK. It only means that it is not specifically forbidden. However, other guidelines lead us to believe that suicide is wrong in God’s eyes. For example, suicide generally is a result of depression, and the Bible does teach us something about that:
God uses all sorts of people in the Bible, but He never uses anyone who is depressed or discouraged. You might find reading 1 Kings chapter 19 instructive.
Satan does not care what non-Christians do with their lives. However, once people become Christians, they have “entered the ball game” and can expect more opposition than when they were “warming the bench.” New Christians often report being depressed, because depression and discouragement are two of Satan’s most powerful tools against them.
Further, for those of us who have gotten right with God, several guidelines apply to suicide:
1 Corinthians 10:31 reveal that the Holy Spirit dwells in those who are saved. It is our responsibility to treat Him with respect, and suicide is not appropriate. Genesis 1:26,27 (and similar verses) reveal that we are made in the image of God. This is one of the reasons we are not allowed to murder (see Genesis 9:6,7), so again suicide would be a bad thing. The Bible teaches us to trust, depend on, and believe in God throughout its length. (Romans 8:28 is one example.) To take your own life would show no faith in God. Notice that although the prophets, apostles, and Jesus Christ were persecuted, tortured, and put to death; they did not commit suicide for an “easy out.” They “fought the good fight” to the end (see 2 Timothy 4:6-.
Be aware of how suicide affects other people’s opinion of the person who died. It is common for people to wonder if someone who commits suicide went to heaven. (That is the reason for this page”get it?) That is a poor testimony for a “Christian warrior.”
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
November 9th, 2006 at 06:11am
But does it say directly in the bible, that if you kill yourself, you will die?
The bible is open to interpretation. That is merely one person's interpretation of it.
But does it say directly in the bible, that if you kill yourself, you will die?
The bible is open to interpretation. That is merely one person's interpretation of it.
Do you mean where does it say that if you kill yourself you will go to hell? Because I think if you kill yourself you will die, no need to look that up in any bible.
But yes, you're right anyways. I cannot recall any part of the bible saying "you shall not commit suicide". And if there was such a quote from the bible it'd surely be on that article.
I do think there's soemthing on the bible about harming yourself and tattoos.
Not suicide though.
*And*, Lucifer Angel, remember though that not everyone believes in the same god or in any god at all. So some people just couldn't care less about what bible has to say about this. So I guess thsi discusion should also be focused on some other point of views on this.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
November 9th, 2006 at 09:42pm
Yeah.. I meant that.. but why the hell were you rolling your eyes at me.. I made a simple typo o.O
But guys, NO ONE is "good" enough to go to Heaven without asking for his forgiveness. I'm a very suicidal person, and was a cutter, but I KNOW FOR SURE I'm going to Heaven. Whatch this video I made: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr3uCWLD7CQ]most of these pics ARE mine[/url]
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
November 9th, 2006 at 10:10pm
How do you know for sure?
I mean, I don't know for sure. I try to be the best person I can be, but just assuming you're going to get into heaven, is like, you're not doing those good deeds out of the good of your heart, you're doing them so you can get into heaven, it's kind of arragont.
Yeah.. I meant that.. but why the hell were you rilling your eyes at me.. I made a simply typo o.O
Yes, yes you did.
And Coff - I really wasn't rolling my eyes at you. We all make typos, some of us more than we actually should. I was just rolling my eyes to the typo. It was hilarious to read.
But yeah, the guilty is GSB, definitely.
And I think to get intop heaven all you need it to be in good terms with god. That if there's a heaven, of course.
no wai, Mikey Wai! Falling In Love With The Board Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 6232
November 12th, 2006 at 09:51am
I dont see how the bible can rule our lives. This is turning into a religous thing when i dont think it is. ( dont get me wrong i go to church) but i dont think the bible will answer all of our questions.
worn-out astronaut. Had A Life Before GSB Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 28177
November 12th, 2006 at 10:40am
I dont have the guts to do it, but sometimes I wish a car could hit me and it [life] would all be over. But I change my mind real fast cause Im not a sucidal or a depressed person. Im not sure that if you kill yourself that you go to hell, but honestly, out of all things you could do to go to hell I believe in that one. By taking your life you take Gods biggest gift and as that being unforgivable you go to hell. But I dont think we go to hell unless we want it. I think God forgives us all. I dont like suicide, I thinks it pretty coverdly when you think there is no way out and you fix it on a easy way. Jst ending it all. I get if somebody is very derpressed or has any type of serious disorder, but when people commit suicide cause of love or just because they think there is not a way out of their difficult situtation, that is stupid, especially if you live a family behind. Its selfish then.
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Yes, yes you did.
