Suicide and self harm!

Misanthropist:

spill_no_sick:

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spill_no_sick:

it's a LOT more complex than you'll ever understand
but you don't win anyone over by saying, "quit bitching about your problems you selfish drama queen"

that's like Catholics trying to convert people by saying, "God hates you and your sentence is eternal hell you horrible evil piece of slime"

I'm not distorting, I just said be more open minded
and "I just want to die" is very much what a suicidal would say
though the suicidal is complex, the things they say are eirily simple

I've probably had the thought "I hate myself, and I want to die" go through my head more than any other thought, and though the reasons have thousands of layers and reasons....the thought was simple

Okay, well, I just think that you kind of made what I said seem worse than it actually was. I don't know the individual I talked to, but with out any of her reasons expressed (and I know that's a personal, and sometimes hard to talk about thing) her post to me didn't seem serious. That doesn't mean what I said was my generalization of everyone who has suicidal thoughts.
And I like to think of myself as open minded already, maybe just not knowledgable about the way the human mind works. "I just want to die" wasn't what I pinpointed, it was the fact that it seemed her mother said she shouldn't want that, and she said she knew she was acting. I was just trying to bring across that that wasn't true, and that dying doesn't bring relief and just closes everything off. I didn't mean for my wording to be sloppy or judgemental.

you don't have to defend yourself, I've never attacked any individual (except Sam and Faith) here....I'm just saying that too many people say stuff similar (but worse) to what you said

I didn't mean to take what you said out of context, I just wanted people to know the jist of what I was going to say

Call Me When You're Sober:

I've serouly tired killing myself!
I only cut now but I've really tried killing myself:'(
I'm depressed because of my family,my mom like"Do you wanna die nad leave eveyone else behind??"

Me"yea!"

her"Well,we don't to die we'll miss you"

I know she waz acting
I just wanna die.
I've almost actually killed my self by ODing and cutting one of my vain on my wrist.

PLEASE dont start that, im going through that and TRUST ME its living yell, DO not do that, if you ever need any help, pm whenever you want

Coff:

Just Nod & Smile:

I think depression is starting to turn into more of something people push themselves into believe. They think about it so much, they end up making themselves believe they're depressed.

I agree so much with that.

I agree because I've seen it happen. It didn't happen with me.. it was already there, but me dwelling on it made it worse. But I've seen so many other people wishing it on themselves.. or making themselves they believe it's something they have, and then it turns into something they really do have.

So anytime one of my friends starts showing signs of that, I always try to help them out if straight away, because I know I don't want them to suffer from anything like this ._.

i think that doing these online tests to see how likely you you are to become depressed are a stupid idea, because some people have persuasive personalities, and they will become depressed after doing them,

Lucifers Angel:

Coff:

Just Nod & Smile:

I think depression is starting to turn into more of something people push themselves into believe. They think about it so much, they end up making themselves believe they're depressed.

I agree so much with that.

I agree because I've seen it happen. It didn't happen with me.. it was already there, but me dwelling on it made it worse. But I've seen so many other people wishing it on themselves.. or making themselves they believe it's something they have, and then it turns into something they really do have.

So anytime one of my friends starts showing signs of that, I always try to help them out if straight away, because I know I don't want them to suffer from anything like this ._.

i think that doing these online tests to see how likely you you are to become depressed are a stupid idea, because some people have persuasive personalities, and they will become depressed after doing them,

Those tests can make things worse if you tend to believe them. For example, they get it all wrong for me, but I dont like doing them anyway. If you get a really bad result you may think that its all over and you can get into bigger shit then you were before. I know I started feeling depressed at one point, but I pulled myself out and realized I was just over-reacting. Friends can help you too in those times, you just need to trust them.

Depression. I think everyone has depression at least once in their lifetime. Jobs, school, people, life is stressful. I have had my share of depression, and having to take those anti-depressents that don't work worth shit...but it's life..i've had my share of self harm too but then I realized that it's not solving anything and that I just need to suck it up..and move on in life and forget about all the other shit that's bringing me down. But it's not that easy on some people...

Antidepressants did me the world of good. There's a lot of controversy over fluoexetine at the moment, about it making some people worse, but I honestly believe it saved me. I'd gotten so far down I didn't see a point in anything; washing, eating, going out, speaking. But I got so much better on that stuff, it was amazing. It only worked for a few months, then it stopped doing anything for my mood so it was changed, but it was such a relief to realise I liked being me again after a month or six weeks on fluoexetine. I take sertraline at the moment, and again that's helped me so much, mainly because that's anti-anxiety too, so I feel better and feel more able to do the things that would have given me panic attacks a few months ago.
I'm leaving hospital in a week, and I think people have a lot of ideas about what 'mental hospitals' are like, but me and my friends there have discussed it a lot, about what we thought it'd be like and what it was actually like, and none of us like it there, but without that place 80% of use would probably have given up and done something really horrible, and it sounds weird, but we all got quite upset when one of the girls made a complaint about something silly there. She had every right to, but without it she'd probably have killed herself, and the same could be said for 80% of us I think, so it felt like a personal insult.

Miss Stiffy:

Antidepressants did me the world of good. There's a lot of controversy over fluoexetine at the moment, about it making some people worse, but I honestly believe it saved me. I'd gotten so far down I didn't see a point in anything; washing, eating, going out, speaking. But I got so much better on that stuff, it was amazing. It only worked for a few months, then it stopped doing anything for my mood so it was changed, but it was such a relief to realise I liked being me again after a month or six weeks on fluoexetine. I take sertraline at the moment, and again that's helped me so much, mainly because that's anti-anxiety too, so I feel better and feel more able to do the things that would have given me panic attacks a few months ago.
I'm leaving hospital in a week, and I think people have a lot of ideas about what 'mental hospitals' are like, but me and my friends there have discussed it a lot, about what we thought it'd be like and what it was actually like, and none of us like it there, but without that place 80% of use would probably have given up and done something really horrible, and it sounds weird, but we all got quite upset when one of the girls made a complaint about something silly there. She had every right to, but without it she'd probably have killed herself, and the same could be said for 80% of us I think, so it felt like a personal insult.

my son is on fluoxetine and he is doing so much better now, (fluoxetione by the way is also Prozac)

I used to only think about it when I was unhappy but I'm learning to cope now. After all, it could be worse. There's always someone else out there who's got even bigger problems. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be upset if something bad happens but you should try to make yourself better. You can only get hurt if you let yourself get hurt. You have to be strong. I know it's hard not to think about killing yourself or not to cut yourself, I should now because I'm struggling not to pick up a blade right now because I'm going through a rough time but things will get better...I hope

how can you put away the emotional pain by physical pain?
i still can't understand that.

Micro Sheep.:

how can you put away the emotional pain by physical pain?
i still can't understand that.

You don't put it away, you just distract your attention from emotional pain by causing yourself to feel physical pain. You're willing to hurt yourself just to feel some other kind of pain as long as it's not what's inside you anymore for at least a moment.

It really is sad for the people who want to pretend to feel depressed, who make themselves cry and harm themselves, when they have no worries at all.

What has the human race come to?

XLoveXLikeXWinterX:

It really is sad for the people who want to pretend to feel depressed, who make themselves cry and harm themselves, when they have no worries at all.

What has the human race come to?

It really is sad when people with real depression and real problems are accused of pretending and attention-seaking by some immature know-it-alls who wanna play shrinks and look cool at the expense of other people's feelings, if not lives.

XLoveXLikeXWinterX:

It really is sad for the people who want to pretend to feel depressed, who make themselves cry and harm themselves, when they have no worries at all.

What has the human race come to?

Yes, but when you think about it they obviously do have serious worries - even if it's just to fit in or get attention - for them to be able to resort to such extremes as you describe.

Surfer Babe:

XLoveXLikeXWinterX:

It really is sad for the people who want to pretend to feel depressed, who make themselves cry and harm themselves, when they have no worries at all.

What has the human race come to?

Yes, but when you think about it they obviously do have serious worries - even if it's just to fit in or get attention - for them to be able to resort to such extremes as you describe.

True. A person with no worries at all is generally referred to as "a corpse".

Ego Box:

how can you put away the emotional pain by physical pain?
i still can't understand that.

It also "equals" out the emotional pain, its like pain that you can actually see, and that reassures you

Faith:

Micro Sheep.:

how can you put away the emotional pain by physical pain?
i still can't understand that.

You don't put it away, you just distract your attention from emotional pain by causing yourself to feel physical pain. You're willing to hurt yourself just to feel some other kind of pain as long as it's not what's inside you anymore for at least a moment.

also, the physical 'pain' releases endorphins, causing a temporary feeling of euphoria

the cockamamey exclamation point at the end of the topic name made me smile.

plus self harm isnt all about making emotional pain physical.
Half the time its because people hate themselves and want to cause harm to their bodies.

most people pretend to be depressed to fit the "goth/punk/emo" sterotype.....[/quote]

yep u're right

http://www.geekstinkbreath.net/board/topic/post/5375620/#5375620

be_insomniac:

most people pretend to be depressed to fit the "goth/punk/emo" sterotype.....

yep u're right [/quote]

UGH! I haaaate people like that, and best bets have it, their lives are just PERFECT!
I suffer from PTSD....and I once thought of committing ...I was gunna overdose on sleeping pills...
then I was like ''Fuck myself! I'm not gunna wimp out on life!''
and I started living with an optimistic view....I still get flashbacks, but not as much....