Suicide and self harm!

nooo....i'll never do it with myself...i just don't want to die...not because i'm afraid of pain(i'm not) or something else...i have just got used to solve my problems other ways....maybe i'm stressed,maybe depressed,but i won't do smth with myself....eventually i lke to live....

I read something which NEEDED to be posted here. Srsly.

There was an article in a trashy tabloid my Mom reads about Amy Winehouse (that's her name, right?) scratching her boyfriend's name into her arm with broken glass in front of an interviewer.

That's just stupid, it's obviously attention seeking...or just something she did while she was wasted. Maybe she's so depressed she doesn't care.]

Ideas?

I think it's ridiculous how many kids these days are self harming.

I didn't even know what it was until I was about 12 or 13, and even then I didn't know why people would do it.

I think in a way, educating children about it is a bad idea. In our PHSE lessons we learn about sex, drugs, alcohol, suicide and self harm and all this does is give kids ideas on how they could go about doing such things.

I know the more my teachers go on about the consequences of drugs and alcohol, the more I want to use them, even though I never have done before in my life, and that I know, within myself, that it's not neccessarily the right thing for me to do.

What do you think? Is preaching to kids about how bad some things are just another excuse for them to rebel, or should children be taught these things from as young as 11?

Boobmeister:

What do you think? Is preaching to kids about how bad some things are just another excuse for them to rebel, or should children be taught these things from as young as 11?

That is a really tricky one because I reackon that it's just down to individual differences. If you're the type of kid that wants to rebel then yeah, I agree, being taught about these things will probably only give you ideas.
On the other hand, I think it's quite important that kids are taught about it because otherwise they might get caught up in something that if they'd been taught about they otherwise wouldn't have.
I think if someone is going to do something (i.e self-harm or suicide or drugs or whatever) then yeah, being taught about it will probably incourage them and give them ideas. If someone isn't going to do something like that then I think being taught about it will encourage them not to do that and potentially save them from doing something that when the facts are known they'd actually rather not get into.

Basically, I think that yes, stuff like that should be taught to children from a young age. Inevitably it will give them ideas but in the end they're going to be taught about it anyway, whether it's throught their peers or through their own experiences, and they may as well be given the facts rather than left to find out the hard way. :]

Boobmeister:

I think it's ridiculous how many kids these days are self harming.

I didn't even know what it was until I was about 12 or 13, and even then I didn't know why people would do it.

I didn't know what it was until I was 14. I saw the movie Thirteen and even though the movie was supposed to make the opposite effect, it sort of made me think self harm/alcohol/drugs/etc is cool. o.o

I myself am a very depressed person. I myself have never done self harm. I try to understand why some people do it, sometimes understand, others dont. Suicide however, I have considered, and tried numuourous times. Probably would've already if it wherent for a girl on here constantly crying begging me to spit up the pills, or to stop the bleeding, or to put the gun away. Half the time idk how she knew i was doing it but she did. I still consider it time to time.

SycoSkunk!:

I myself am a very depressed person. I myself have never done self harm. I try to understand why some people do it, sometimes understand, others dont. Suicide however, I have considered, and tried numuourous times. Probably would've already if it wherent for a girl on here constantly crying begging me to spit up the pills, or to stop the bleeding, or to put the gun away. Half the time idk how she knew i was doing it but she did. I still consider it time to time.

You say you've never tried self harm, surely trying to kill yourself is harming your body?

Boobmeister:

SycoSkunk!:

I myself am a very depressed person. I myself have never done self harm. I try to understand why some people do it, sometimes understand, others dont. Suicide however, I have considered, and tried numuourous times. Probably would've already if it wherent for a girl on here constantly crying begging me to spit up the pills, or to stop the bleeding, or to put the gun away. Half the time idk how she knew i was doing it but she did. I still consider it time to time.

You say you've never tried self harm, surely trying to kill yourself is harming your body?

Somewhat. What I consider self harm would be cutting. ppl who just cut their wrists, when they arent trying to die.

SycoSkunk!:

Boobmeister:

SycoSkunk!:

I myself am a very depressed person. I myself have never done self harm. I try to understand why some people do it, sometimes understand, others dont. Suicide however, I have considered, and tried numuourous times. Probably would've already if it wherent for a girl on here constantly crying begging me to spit up the pills, or to stop the bleeding, or to put the gun away. Half the time idk how she knew i was doing it but she did. I still consider it time to time.

You say you've never tried self harm, surely trying to kill yourself is harming your body?

Somewhat. What I consider self harm would be cutting. ppl who just cut their wrists, when they arent trying to die.

People burn, take small overdoses, scratch, slap, break bones, pick at wounds, loads of things. Cutting is the most 'publicised' or whatever, and a lot of people who self-harm do cut, but it's not just cutting.

Ultraviolet:

SycoSkunk!:

Boobmeister:

SycoSkunk!:

I myself am a very depressed person. I myself have never done self harm. I try to understand why some people do it, sometimes understand, others dont. Suicide however, I have considered, and tried numuourous times. Probably would've already if it wherent for a girl on here constantly crying begging me to spit up the pills, or to stop the bleeding, or to put the gun away. Half the time idk how she knew i was doing it but she did. I still consider it time to time.

You say you've never tried self harm, surely trying to kill yourself is harming your body?

Somewhat. What I consider self harm would be cutting. ppl who just cut their wrists, when they arent trying to die.

People burn, take small overdoses, scratch, slap, break bones, pick at wounds, loads of things. Cutting is the most 'publicised' or whatever, and a lot of people who self-harm do cut, but it's not just cutting.

I'm not really familiar with anything other than the cutting, because that is all the people that I know do, and have done for years

Why does everyone want to suicide and cut themselves!? Don't you see it's just STUPID!

If you're depressed tell your parents and they'll take you to a psychologist.

A psycologist can help you a lot, my parents divorced and I went to a Psychologist for that and I'm perfectly normal now, I still don't want them to be like this but at least I understand them.

All this is fault of the stereotypes e.g Emo. I try to ignore these things as much as I can but I'm sick of seeing kids that say "Damn, I'm depressed I want to kill myself!" Urgh!

Meski:

Don't you see it's just STUPID!

It doesn't seem stupid when you feel like you're screaming at people for help and they're not even turning round to acknowledge you. Depression is a horrible, horrible illness. It can rob you of everything you like and your basic human functions. When you can't even face getting out of bed and just managing that is a massive struggle, everything is that much harder.
A lot of people find it very hard to contemplate, but when you've hit rock bottom and it feels like you're having your teeth smashed against that rock, everything is meaningless.

Meski:

Why does everyone want to suicide and cut themselves!? Don't you see it's just STUPID!

If you're depressed tell your parents and they'll take you to a psychologist.

A psycologist can help you a lot, my parents divorced and I went to a Psychologist for that and I'm perfectly normal now, I still don't want them to be like this but at least I understand them.

All this is fault of the stereotypes e.g Emo. I try to ignore these things as much as I can but I'm sick of seeing kids that say "Damn, I'm depressed I want to kill myself!" Urgh!

I don't like to summarize people but there are reasons why people hesitate to seek professional help. I know that if I told my parents that I thought I was clinically depressed, they would probably tell me to snap out of it and tell me that its not worth fussing about. If they actually sent me to a therapist or w/e, they'd be really ashamed of me since my brother is autistic and they've always told me that I'm like they're only hope or something. My mom wouldn't want to tell her relatives about my depression because like it'd make her look bad, kind of. Like my parents are always telling me that if I act all stupid and stuff people would expect my parents to be a reflection of me because if they were good parents they wouldn't let this happen to me and stuff.

There's nothing that serious about me, in case you were wondering...


And yeah, sorry I sound really weird o_O

Even if people do get professional help it won't always work for them. Talking and analysing won't always make the depression go away and it's then that people start having to take drugs (prescriptive or otherwise) and self harm to make it dissapear for even ten minutes.
I know people that see a therapist mulitple times a week and take more medication than anyone would like to imagine, and they still fall to the bottom on a regular basis and have to use self harm as a breif release from their sadness. There's nothing else they can do.
It sucks ass but that's just the way it is. There isn't always a cure and it's ignorant to tell people that if they see a therapist they'll be fine, because that's not always the case.

stardust:

it's ignorant to tell people that if they see a therapist they'll be fine, because that's not always the case.

Exactly. It never helped me.

There are a hell of alot of depressed teenagers and not alot of attention from adults, in my opinion. Maybe if teachers and parents and brothers and sisters paid more attention we wouldn't feel so invisible.

CopperheaD:

There are a hell of alot of depressed teenagers and not alot of attention from adults, in my opinion. Maybe if teachers and parents and brothers and sisters paid more attention we wouldn't feel so invisible.

Maybe if our generation actually tried to make this world a nicer place to live in we wouldn't have so many fucking suicides in the years to come.

Sorry.

Should we try and surpress suicide, or allow peopel to kill themselves if they want to? I mean afterall it is there body and well....they can die if they want to, right? I saw a book in a library about people fighting for their right to kill themselves. Something about them having absolute control of their lives. I dont know really...

I Just Want To say, that, well, Suicide is not a great exit, but still you have to consider it is an exit. I Mean, if you suicide, no more problems. But That's not good, is not a brave decission. Some people say that, but well, it is brave to pull the trigger of the gun, or to jump, or to cut your veins, I mean, When you are about to, and you say:
" No, wait, I can't,"
that's cowardness.
I'm not saying it is cool, I'm just stating a point of view. But Still, The fact that you wake up every day, is for me, a new Chance to start over, and move on. So, I Think people should see it that way, not thinking of suicide, it is better to be alive and look for new things.
I know some things can't be solved, so let's don't look for the solution, let's look for new experiences in our lifes, That's better.
I'm not an optimistic person, I'm depressed, I'm pessimist, but sometimes I tried to not be like that, and things work.
I know it is contradictory, but, well, Sometimes we don't feel it could be good to be optimistic, sometimes we have to be realistic.
And well, suicide Kills reality.
And In Fact, It is their body, anyone can choose what to do with theirs, that's why Freedom is a Value.

shannon is... DEAD!:

I cut myself, and I've tried to commit suicide a lot of times... I don't think that it's bad. The cutting helps me get through my hard times and I know not to cut too deep, so, it's not really harmful. I personally dont' think that it's wrong for someone to commit suicide, it's you life... you live it for you and not for anyone else, if someone thinks that they should die, then that's what they think. I don't understand why everyone makes such a big deal of it, when people cut themselves.

omfg me 2.........i dont get it i mean its my life and my body so stfu ill do with it what i want