Sex with a minor - Karen Ellis jail sentence
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lisa1224 Shoot Me, I'm A Newbie ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 18 | Most Australian are familiar with the Karen Ellis story.. if not read on.... Karen Ellis was a high school PE teacher. She had an affair with a boy, who at the alledged time of the affair, was 15. He consented to the affair.. She at first walked free but then there was an appeal and she was sentenced to 22 months. Was her sentence too weak? On the other hand, In the mid to late 80's gavin Hopper had sex with a 14 year old girl (she says this wasn't consented to) and he recieved 6 years jail (Ithink). He was convicted only recently. Was Karen Ellis let off easy because she is a female? |
Loudleah King For A Couple Of Days ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 3475 | I really dont know |
rock00chick Geek ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 490 | there are stories like that everywhere when people aren't put in jail. I think if you commit the crime you should do the time... |
War That's In My Mind Jackass ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 1229 | yes i think she should of gone to jail thats too weak its digusting |
folkin' around. King For A Couple Of Days ![]() Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 3243 | In america theres this lady named Mary Kay Laturno(sp?) and she was a 6th grade teacher and she had sex with one of here 11 year old students Villie Valuo(sp?) anywho they did it a couple times and they were caught well, she went to jail and she found out she was pregnant and stuff this happend in the late 90's but anyways she ended up having 2 kids with him. She went to jail for a couple of years and recently she got out and they also married in like March or May..can't remember. |
wake the dead. This Board Is My Home ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 30440 | lisa1224: It's a bit different though, in Hopper's case the girl was violated, he took advantage of her and she knew she was the victim, which she was. Ben Dunbar (that's the boys name, I sorta know him) on the other hand knows he pushed for the sex, he lusted after her and doesn't feel victimised at all. He WANTED it. The cases were under different circumstances. So I can't really say is it was unfair/if she got off easy. |
rock00chick Geek ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 490 | +PanhandlingMisery+: true, but they both commited a crime, it doesn't matter who pushed who, they had sex and he wasn't old enough... |
Dom Jackass ![]() Age: 35 Gender: Male Posts: 1691 | the age of consent is 18 in america isnt it? its only 16 here in the U.K thank god, you have to wait an extra 2 years for legal sex, oh well. But, yeah real peedos should get longer in prison. Theres some wierdo 23 year old who fancies my 15 year old girlfriend so i had a go at him and he stopped. |
rock00chick Geek ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 490 | i124q: that's quite disturbing. some person got hold of my email address and started hitting me with propositions and went on about how he loved me and if i didnt agree to run away with him he was going to stalk me...that was scary...but it's all ok now! |
Less Than Jack Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 8531 | But didn't the student WANT to have sex? |
rock00chick Geek ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 490 | Minority27: yer, but it's still illegal.. |
Less Than Jack Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 8531 | tre's dominated luv slave:it should be THEIR choice if they want to have sex, but if it was rape or somthing...thats different |
lisa1224 Shoot Me, I'm A Newbie ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 18 | Yeah but I'm pretty sure the story was that the chick was taken advantage of by hopper and it affected her in her life. The thing will Karen Ellis, she was sentenced in regards to the boys feeling on the matter too.... on the other hand he said the relationship didnt affect him when it seems it did as he moved out of home (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this) |
eberneezer_egghead Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5484 | Karen Ellis seemed to have "lured" this boy into the relationship, but it was his choice. I don't think she should have got 22 months. I think she should have been walked free. |
Comrade182 Moderator ![]() Age: 38 Gender: Male Posts: 10235 | I'm a bit confussed, is this topic saying about how long people who have sex with minors should be in prison? or is it asking if men and woman are being treated differently in the courts? |
eberneezer_egghead Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5484 | Comrade182:yeah... its actually stupid. But if thats the law, then let them get on with it. |
Dom Jackass ![]() Age: 35 Gender: Male Posts: 1691 | rock00chick: there are a lot of sad, strange people out there...... |
Rage&Love King For A Couple Of Days ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 2462 | she should have got a stronger sentance i mean we all go on about equality for men and women and a women shouldn't recieve a weak punishment because she's female! |
killing loneliness Idiot ![]() Age: - Gender: - Posts: 572 | warning_05:yeah, i agree...totaly...i wouldn't realy mind sittin in jail the same amount of years as any man, but only if i was realy like um...diserving it...well that would never happen, tho.. ok, i'm going off the topic, so, buh bye |
Comrade182 Moderator ![]() Age: 38 Gender: Male Posts: 10235 | eberneezer_egghead: That really didn't answer my question! |
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