Foo Fighters
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The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | Yeah I've always known about Dave saying that they never complimented eachother.. which already is horrible enough. You should be complementing and constantly giving tips and advice to your bandmates. Youv'e gotta have good communication in order for it to function correctly. And Kurt, as much as I love his music and respect him, was a fucked up man. He didn't know who he was. And this fact makes his death much more sympathetic. He was struggling to find out who he was and he just was never happy and he probably would never ben happy no matter how much success. My opinion is that Nirvana blew up too soon and too quickly before Kurt even know anything about himself. He's contradicting. He never knew what he wanted and why and where ant anything. Which is why I think he was so passionate and violent when he played guitar. It was the only thing he really knew how to do. That and Art. I do admire Dave. He's going to be asked about Nirvana for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes. Nirvana defined part of the 90s so that's a whole Decade Dave has got to put up with. But he's so good about it and keeps his cool and doesn't blow up and doesn't speak. He knows it's private. I think that's why the Foo Fighters are so good at what they do. Dave knows what could happen if they became too big and he knows they have the potential to be big which was what Hyde Park was probably about.. a test of their wills.. so to speak. And he didn't like it. He's seen the horrors of Hollywood and what happens when people let fame get to their head. And I'm done with my ramblage. Sometimes I wonder if I should become a psychologist ![]() |
wonderwall Geek ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 265 | It will be a sad day when Dave stops putting out albums and touring but I can easily see him retiring to his family and his home and riding his motorcycles around for the rest of his life. Sometimes I wish they'd go back to the basement in virginia and make another real album as friends. Tour it in clubs. play on TV if they want a lot of people to be able to see it. But eventually they're all going to get older and it's going to be over. I wish before that happens that they''d go back to what they were for such a long time. The thing with Kurt is he was not a person you could see getting old. You could never see him as any older than he was. it was always surprising when he'd be another year older. I can't picture him being 40 now. Of course, I know neither of these people personally so I'm totally talking out my ass but that's just the way it seems to me. Dave I can envison getting older, sitting out by the pool, teaching his daughter to play guitar. Kurt I could never see that for. I think that was always the difference between them. I have my doubts about Kurt's death. I am really reluctant to believe that it was a pure and clean suicide. I respect Kurt's music, but in some respects I think Nirvana is...I don't know, to me it marks an era in my life. His music is just a soundtrack to other more important things. it's not the music that's important but what it means to us. I don't see Kurt as this tortured genius, nor do I see dave as some kind of rock legend. I don't see it as "kurt's music" I see it as a contribution from a group of people to a greater whole. They all had a part and they all hold a space. Eventually Nirvana will have died off. Half the legend is how it ended. Just like half dave's legend is that he has yet to end it. |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | He said he wanted to stop recording when he was 35 or wahtever. Look where he is now. He's a bit of a talker. He's always saying stuff and half the stuff he says doesn't actually happen. It's kinda a 50/50 thing for me. I can totally see him settling down and not recording anymore but at the same time I can't see him giving up writing music. He's too hyper and too attached to music to just give up writing it. I'm with you. They write their best music when their relaxed. I never really understood that when you write music it actually shows a moment in your life. Green Day and the Foo are the best examples of that. BJ was pissed as hell about everything going in with Gilman when he went and wrote Insomniac. The Foo/Dave IMO write their best music when they have noone telling them what to do ie - TINLTL and S/T (even if that was just Dave) I think Kurt was stuck in a whripool of time. He couldn't get used to the fame and he couldn't evolve and change himself to fit the style and things that were needed to be an extremely popular band in the 90s. He was still the angry frustrated kid he was when his parents divorced. In the book I read they said that Kurt was the happiest kid when he was young and then when his parents divorced he completely changed. And I think in a way he just got stuck in that period of time where everything just kept getting worse and worse. He hated his parents girlfriends and boyfriends and hated school and the kids there. I like to leave the subject of Kurt's death alone. It's just a fucked up issue that hasn't been resolved for 13 years and will probably never be resolved. IMO I think the only people who know the least bit of what happened is Dave, Krist and Courtney. And you don't see Dave opening his mouth, and Krist has shied away from the spotlight turning to politics and Courtney is just all over the place and no one knows whether or not to believe anything she says because of her big mouth. I can never see any one person as a great rock legend. Because people are legends to different people. You know what I mean? Half of today's generation don't give a fuck about Bob Marley, Elvis Pretzley (sp?) The Beatles, Grateful Dead etc. Their icons are Pete Wentz, Gerard Way, 50 Cent that stuff. So I never think of anyone as a legend. I just can't get into that. They make great music, that's it. That's all they are to me. Even the Foo. I love them but I don't think of them as rock legends or anything. They make great music and I love them. In the words of Dave "It's just a band" I try not to analyze Kurt because if you do, you always run into a roadblock or just another road with more information and it's just too much. He's just unique but there are tons of unique people and Kurt's just one unique person..that's it. |
wonderwall Geek ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 265 | I want to leave Kurt's death alone but if the information I've read and heard is true there's a lot of stuff that's unexplained, and I have a tough time with that. i worked in a crime lab for awhile and there's things that you just know can't happen. I'm sure Dave has a lot of the same questions as everybody else. It's pretty well documented that the band was pretty estranged by that time, and i don't think anyone really knew. I try not to analyze anybody, because i know what i'm seeing is their public persona. I'd like to see the Foos make another album that really makes you FEEL something. IYH didn't make me feel anything. TINLTL made me feel something. It was sort of the same feeling as having a beer with a bunch of friends on your deck, some kind of familiarity. IYH felt like an arena rock tour, and that sucked. |
wonderwall Geek ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 265 | Chris has just found an indescribable amount of favor with me now that I have seen a picture of him riding a pony! He looks like he was born to ride. That's it, I'm sold. http://fooalbum.outshined-solutions.com/displayimage.php?album=22&pos=36 |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | wonderwall: I haven't looked the pic but I'm assuming it's either the Me First and the Gimme Gimme photo or the one of them in Sydney. |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | wonderwall: I with you 100% on the IYH and TINLTL. TINLTL makes me feel like being lazy outside on a hot summer day with my guitar or just listening to my headphones and relaxing. It's got that kind of vibe. I didn't feel anything from IYH. Dave was trying too hard to be anthematic. It just doesn't work. Some of the acoustic stuff is good but meh.. some of it's just a little over done. Skin and Bones is just Dave and Taylor themselves and that song is great. It was sorta improv cuz Dave needed something to play before a talk show and he sat down and wrote that with Taylor. |
High Fidelity Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 7797 | The Fool On The Hill:Awesome thanks! I'll download 'em in a sec. |
wonderwall Geek ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 265 | I don't know where the photo with the ponies was taken, but there's one with nate holding a gray pony, dave, chris sitting on a black and white paint, and taylor holding a chestnut and white paint. It's SO CUTE. But where's dave's pony!? |
newagecarny Was Here Two Weeks Ago ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 42495 ![]() | YOU'RE NOT THE ONE BUT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN MAKE ME FEEL LIKE THIIIIIIIIIS ... love that song ![]() |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | Ellaisonfire: Ella! You're probably like one of the few people who like that song. Most Foo fans hate it. I like it ![]() |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | wonderwall: Haha yeah it's the one I thought it was. It's cuteee. I love how Taylor andNate are staring at their pony and Dave is just being a fool and Chris is born to ride man. |
Janie Jones Falling In Love With The Board ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 5438 | The Fool On The Hill: Actually I like it too ![]() I've given up even trying to analyze Kurt, there was so much to him and you hear something different about him from everybody (plus, obviously, like you guys said, I don't know him personally, just his public persona)...I've definitely heard that he was a bit of a dick to Dave though, and always saying Krist and Dave didn't contribute enough to the band and the songwriting, etc. I think he was kinda passive-aggressive that way too, if he was mad at somebody he'd just have Courtney go take care of them for him. And, this always bugs me...I think it was, don't know, overly self-righteous of him to tell Eddie Vedder, "I still hate your band, but I think you're a decent person." Kinda seemed like he expected Ed to fall to his knees and be like, "Thank you, great savior! I can go on with my life now that you approve of me!"... heh, now I sound like I hate Kurt. I really don't, I promise. I just don't see him as "spokesman for a generation", "tortured genius", etc. He was a guy who was in a great band and made music that I love, and he died too young but like you guys said, I couldn't picture him getting old and retiring, just judging by what I do know about him. I liked IYH when I first got it but I got bored with it really quickly, and I only listen to two or three songs from the whole thing now. I have a lot of memories and such associated with TCATS but I'd say TINLTL is the one that has the most obvious "vibe"...it is really laid-back, relaxing, feels like summer to me. |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | TINLTL! ![]() Now I'm going to have to listen to TINLTL ![]() ![]() Eh Kurt Cobain is Kurt Cobain. It's pointless trying to figure out who he is, what he did, why he did everything. He's just another special character who will go down in history. Whether or not people accept him as an icon is up to them. I personally don't. I don't have any icons except maybe my brother or something. But rock stars are just not icons to me IMO. They make great music but that's all they are to me. The only person that probably comes close to being an icon is Dave because of everything he's done. Stepping from beind the kit in one of the most popular bands of the 90s and taking a risk to stand in front of thousands of people with a guitar, having never fronting a band in his life before. Having to deal with allthe shit of Kurt and Taylor when he OD'd. I admire him for that, just like I admire someone who survived an avalanche for 2 days. Do I think he's an icon? Nah not really. It's not supposed to sound cruel or heartless but I'm just saying that some people are just overrated. In the end, they're all normal people. Whether or not they let fame get to their head is their choice. IE- Axl Rose. He may lie and make up stories and people may hate him, but in the end he's just like we are.He's just the kid in high school who has to have attention drawn to him and so he makes up stories like he fucked the prom queen or he got high under the bleachers. |
wonderwall Geek ![]() Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 265 | Chris can marry me now. I have a requirement that my future husband like horses. I like how they're offered ponies, nate and tay take one and look at it, chris takes one and sits on it, and dave doesn't even take one. lol. Dave doesn't seem like the horse loving type, so our relationship was doomed from the start ![]() |
newagecarny Was Here Two Weeks Ago ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 42495 ![]() | The Fool On The Hill: it's fun and straight forward. ![]() |
newagecarny Was Here Two Weeks Ago ![]() Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 42495 ![]() | ...people are writing essays ![]() |
StAttic6 Shoot Me, I'm A Newbie ![]() Age: 35 Gender: Male Posts: 46 | In Your Honor was one of the top 5 best albums of this decade so far. Fo sho. Some people also say I look like Dave. |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | Neato: from Rock&Roll Daily Hours before the Smoking Section caught a crack-of-dawn flight to Los Angeles, we hit the Wiz Kid Invitational, New York’s hottest new weekly poker showdown. Sitting to our right was Strokes frontman Julian Casablancas, who took our money but cheered us up with news that he played guitar and sang on “Sick, Sick, Sick,” from the upcoming Queens of the Stone Age album, Era Vulgaris. . . . The next night in L.A., we hooked up with the Queens, on the night they celebrated the completion of Vulgaris. (The cut “Make It Wit Chu” shall be the summer hookup jam.) Their fearless leader, Josh Homme, also enjoys the Hold ‘Em ” he hosts a home game or plays the Hustler Casino ” but that night we hit Hollywood hole La Velvet Margarita Cantina, where he and his lovely wife, Distillers singer Brody Dalle, shot tequila. . . . Ironically, Dave Grohl told us he thought the new Queens sound like “a nice, tall, cold mush-garita” ” a margarita with ’shrooms ” and went on to tell the S.S. that the new Foo album is coming along dopely. ” Taylor [ Hawkins] is killing it,” says Grohl. “I think we’re finally capturing his ADD on tape. The shit is wack, jack!”. . . I love boys with ADD ![]() ![]() |
The Fool On The Hill Had A Life Before GSB ![]() Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 26154 | wonderwall: Chris an asshole. You do'nt want him ![]() ![]() |
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