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March 27th, 2006 at 08:01am
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'Below Empty' News:
Scott Weiland has lashed out at Axl Rose for his recent press release. The press release claims that on a visit to Axl's house, Slash called Velvet Revolver bassist Duff McKagan "spineless" and vocalist Scott Weiland a "fraud".

Scott has replied to this with the following message:

QUID PRO QUO

Get in the rinGo to the gym motherfucker, or if you prefer, get a new wig motherfucker. I think I’ll resist the urge to “stoop” to your level. Oh shit, here it comes, you fat, botox faced, wig wearin’ fuck! O.K. I feel better now. Don’t think for a second we don’t know where those words came from. Your unoriginal, uncreative little mind, the same mind that had to rely on its bandmates to write melodies and lyrics. Who’s the fraud now bitch? Damn, I couldn’t imagine people writing for me. How many albums have you put out man and how long did it take the current configuration of this so-called “band” to make this album? How long? And without the only guys that validated the name. How dare you! Shame on you! How dare you call our bass player “spineless”. We toured our album over a year and a half. How many shows have you played over the last ten years? Oh, that’s right - you bailed out on your long awaited comeback tour, leaving your remaining fans feeling shall we say a trifle miffed?! I won’t even list what I’ve accomplished because I don’t need to. What we’re talking about here is a frightened little man who once thought he was king, but unfortunately this king without his court is nothing but a memory of the asshole he once was.

Yours truly,

Scott Weiland


Alan Niven, former Guns n' Roses manager:
"AXL ROSE IS STILL GENUINELY AND PROFOUNDLY GIFTED"

I MANAGED GUNS N' ROSES FROM 1986 TO 1991, AND IN SO DOING, OVERSAW THE PRE-PRODUCTION OF 'APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION', 'LIES' AND 'USE YOUR ILLUSIONS'.

I WAS ALSO PRESENT AT SEVERAL REHEARSALS DURING THE FORMATION OF VELVET REVOLVER AND I HAVE SEEN THEM PERFORM 'LIVE'. [I PASSED ON AN INVITATION TO MANAGE THE BAND, PRIOR TO THE EMPLOYMENT OF SCOTT WEILLAND, FOR PERSONAL REASONS].

CATEGORICALLY, SLASH IS UTTERLY ACCURATE - MR WEILLAND IS, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, A CLUELESS POSTURING FRAUD, OF NO PARTICULAR OR OBVIOUS ABILITIES, INCLUDING, AND MOST APPARENTLY, COMPOSITION. THE BAND IS A THOROUGH WASTE OF A TRULY GREAT GUITAR PLAYER AND TERRIFIC RHYTHM SECTION. [THEIR OUTPUT HAS BEEN ENTIRELY FORGETTABLE AND ONE DIMENSIONAL].

AS FOR MR ROSE, I HAVE NO DOUBT HE IS STILL GENUINELY AND PROFOUNDLY GIFTED, AND IT IS SELF EVIDENT THAT HE HAS PROVIDED MORE INSIGHT AND MEMORABILITY IN A SINGLE LINE OF COMPOSITION THAN MR WEILLAND HAS MANAGED IN AN ENTIRE CAREER.

FOR THE RECORD, MR ROSE WROTE THE MAJORITY OF THE MELODIES AND LYRICS ON THE GUNS RECORDS, WHICH INCLUDE THE BEST SELLING ROCK DEBUT OF OUR TIMES, WITH 16,000,000 SOLD IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE.

HE SHARED THE SPOTLIGHT WITH INDIVIDUALS WHOSE EXCELLENCE IS REFLECTED IN SUCH SALES FIGURES.

WHAT MIGHT NOT BE UNDERSTOOD IS THAT HE, AND THE OTHER BAND COMPOSERS, EMPLOYED A COURTESY SHARING OF SO CALLED MECHANICAL INCOME - GRACE AND JUDGEMENT IN ACTION.

MR WEILLAND, OF COURSE, EXHIBITS NEITHER GRACE NOR JUDGEMENT IN HIS DELUSIONAL UTTERANCES, AND IN MY VIEW, NO DISCERNABLE TALENT EITHER.

I HAVE HELD THIS OPINION FROM THOSE VERY FIRST REHEARSALS, AND CONSIDER HIM BETTER EMPLOYED BY HIS FORMER BAND, WHERE HE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR COMPOSING ABILITIES ONCE MORE.

PERHAPS THEN WE COULD ALL GET DOWN TO THE VERY SERIOUS, AND BIG, BUSINESS OF REFORMING THE GREATEST, AND MOST RELEVANT, ROCK BAND, [DISPENSING WITH THE COURT SPATS THAT SUCK THE JUICE OUT OF LIFE ITSELF], FOR THE DELIGHT OF MILLIONS OF FANS, A MULTITUDE OF WHICH, THE SECOND AND THIRD GENERATION OF ADMIRERS, HAVE NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE FLORAL ARTILLERY IN LIVING MAGNIFICENCE.

THE INDUSTRY COULD CERTAINLY USE A SHOT OF GENUINELY TALENTED FIREPOWER.

SINCERELY
ALAN NIVEN


Duff McKagan's response:
McKagan told Launch that he would rather not get involved in the situation at all. "I think, you know, a lot of it's really unfortunate, very difficult," he said in an interview conducted last Friday (March 10). "I've always just wanted to make great music and that's what I plan on doing. As far as a rebuttal to what he said, or what Slash has said, I won't get involved in a war of words, you know. People say all kinds of stuff and I'm not going to be one of them."


Rolling Stone magazine:
The rumor floating around at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony? Guns n' Roses will tour this summer with Slash and Duff McKagan back in the band. We're not saying who's spreading this around, but if you happened to be getting hammered at 3 a.m. in Room 39A of the Waldorf-Astoria hotel in New York with Kid Rock and Lars Ulrich, you may have overheard the same gossip. Sources indicate it's not true, but only Axl Rose can say for sure, and he's not talking.


....Scotty-boy.....

when WILL you learn?????

......don't assail the rose.....or you'll feel the thorns....

'FALL TO PIECES' indeed......

S.
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March 27th, 2006 at 09:37pm
oh man, weiland was quite weak with what he said and the rebuttle was very very strong. but i still love weiland, he sure seems like one cool dude. i wouldn't mind watching gnr with most of the original line-up, that'd be way cool.
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March 27th, 2006 at 09:42pm
I've already read this. A friend sent an article on this to me. The comeback was amazing. Woot! Go Scott!!

Lose the zero [axl rose], get with ze hero[kinky scotty weiland] Wink

Axl Rose needs to drop that ego and let go of Slash and Duff. They're always in dispute, so why make them come back? (Other than the fact that Slash is an AMAZING guitarist)

Velvet Revolver is obviously the better band. Very Happy
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March 28th, 2006 at 04:25am
Feesh:
I've already read this. A friend sent an article on this to me. The comeback was amazing. Woot! Go Scott!!

Lose the zero [axl rose], get with ze hero[kinky scotty weiland] Wink

Axl Rose needs to drop that ego and let go of Slash and Duff. They're always in dispute, so why make them come back? (Other than the fact that Slash is an AMAZING guitarist)

Velvet Revolver is obviously the better band. Very Happy


....AHEM...

I believe........you are a little confused...

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MR WEILLAND, OF COURSE, EXHIBITS NEITHER GRACE NOR JUDGEMENT IN HIS DELUSIONAL UTTERANCES, AND IN MY VIEW, NO DISCERNABLE TALENT EITHER


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AS FOR MR ROSE, I HAVE NO DOUBT HE IS STILL GENUINELY AND PROFOUNDLY GIFTED, AND IT IS SELF EVIDENT THAT HE HAS PROVIDED MORE INSIGHT AND MEMORABILITY IN A SINGLE LINE OF COMPOSITION THAN MR WEILLAND HAS MANAGED IN AN ENTIRE CAREER.


......couldn't agree more with Mr Niven........

the comeback was amazing????????....yes, it was....from GN'R anyway...

...SCOTTY-BOY couldn't string a coherent sentence together....
I'm sorry.....should give him credit for the........
.......ashamed to even quote this embarrassment to music.....'TAPEWORM ABORTION' lyrics....
...sure there'll be more of those on....LIBER-TURD...no???

MEANWHILE.....the new Gn'R demos......continue to
BEAT THE LIVING BEJEEBUS out of everything out there........radio airplay
.....speaks a LOT louder....than some 2nd grader drivel.....

Weiland.....doesn't know what he's dealing with here........
.....and with bis 'band' crumbling round him?????

....Axl WILL have the last laugh.......and it ain't gonna be pretty.....
I suggest Scotty-boy starts grovelling now......or kiss his anorexic ass BUH-BYE!!!!!

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March 28th, 2006 at 04:34am
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March 28th, 2006 at 04:35am
I. Love. Velvet. Revolver. So. Much.

Oh, and this has been bugging me a lot, why is your rank newbie?
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March 28th, 2006 at 04:38am
Alan Niven should fix his caps lock button.
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March 28th, 2006 at 04:39am
Lik's So Vain.:
Alan Niven should fix his caps lock button.

lmfao lmfao lmfao
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March 28th, 2006 at 05:32am
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Lik's So Vain.:
Alan Niven should fix his caps lock button.

lmfao lmfao lmfao


lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

Five @ Lik. Good one.

I think they're okay but I prefer GN'R by far.
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March 28th, 2006 at 07:16am
In my opinion VR are better than GNR, right now. Any band with Slash rocks butt.

o_o But both Scott and Axl are divas. -sigh-
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March 28th, 2006 at 07:45am
Scott has fucked up here......BIG time...

.....given recent events....and feelings towards Axl...

It's only a matter of TIME.....before Weiland's on his own...

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March 28th, 2006 at 10:08am
its gonna be like guns n roses all over again. i wish for slash and duff and dave and matt that they could find less viotile singers.
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March 28th, 2006 at 12:06pm
Megan.:
Oh, and this has been bugging me a lot, why is your rank newbie?

Beacuse she wanted to have 'Shoot me' next to her name.
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March 28th, 2006 at 12:22pm
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I think they're okay but I prefer GN'R by far.


Ditto..
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March 28th, 2006 at 06:07pm
rusty:
its gonna be like guns n roses all over again. i wish for slash and duff and dave and matt that they could find less viotile singers.


actually dave was never in gnr. he's from slash's side project from before called 'snakepit' (just to clear things up lol).
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March 29th, 2006 at 11:01am
VR rock my bum okay?
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April 6th, 2006 at 08:26pm
Guten Tag mein herren und damen!

would amuse me to pieces and bits if one of you geniuses could photo-CHOP a picture of

Mr. Fraud aka Scotty-boy into some unimaginable phlegm ridden creature......

would warm the sheckles of my dark little heart........and tickle me shitless...!

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April 8th, 2006 at 08:20pm
Damn. well this is a pretty strong debate. here's my opinion:
Bottom Line:
Scotty, although I DO love him AND Velvet Revolver, had no business in what he said. I understand that he was defending his bandmates, but seriously, it isn't HIS problem.
Axl, should'nt have said shit in the first place. But then again, he IS trying to get publicity for the new album (note the many recent public apperances)
I mostly agree with the manager. Don't jump down my throat, m'kay? I said MOSTLY. I agree w/him in what he says about putting the dispute to rest and the fact that all their fans (including myself) deserve to see a band as great as they are.
I'm not choosing sides, mainly because this is just another attempt at grabbing the gossip pages of all major music mags, but also because I love both VR and GNR and it sucks that they can't grow the fuck up and talk shit out.

I'll take my boy Izzy's side: Just sit back coolly and quietly as these people waste their time going back and forth in a meaningless war.

I'm done.
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April 8th, 2006 at 08:36pm
I like VR, I bought their cd and it was pretty awesom! Scotts voice is just unique and amazing Very Happy
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April 10th, 2006 at 10:32am
I don't like them, I saw them once on a festival and they sucked even Faithless(they played there too) was better...
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