BNP

AuthorMessage
Matt Smith
Admin
Matt Smith
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 31134

Mibba Blog
June 9th, 2006 at 01:52pm
So, for those of you who have no idea of who the British National Party are and what they stand for, they are a (not openly) racist, right wing party here in the UK. The UK, being asylum seeker capital of the world, has recently seen a huge influx of asylum seekers and with it a rise in vote for the BNP. BNP leader Nick Griffin has called islam as "wicked and vicious" after the 7/7 bombings, and in my local area (we have a big, big asian population) the BNP are fairly strong. I personally have had letters through the door inciting racial hatred after the local council built a mosque nearby.

In a local town very near to where I live, Burnley, the BNP gained 3 seats in the 2002 local elections. The BNP were accused of exploiting the high tensions in areas that had recently undergone big racially-motivated riots.

What I have to say to you is this: are such political parties (use your own examples- the BNP is just one) acceptable?. Do they have the right to spread this hateful propaganda?. Do you even approve of the BNP/other racist/extremist parties?

I personally, think they have every right to say this stuff. Although I do not and never will agree with it. Let them say it, then let the rest of us ridicule them and their views.

Another question to think about: what drives people to vote for such parties? can they really be blamed? or is it the fault of the government, for losing the faith of the voters?.

I think the reson many vote for the BNP is they are so desparate and dillusioned with the government they can only put their faith in extremist parties.

I also believe that parties like the BNP do have a place in politics. For the sake of equality, in a way. They do have every right to do what they do, we wouldn't be a free country if we didn't let them.
NeoSteph
Basket Case
NeoSteph
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 16494

Mibba Blog
June 9th, 2006 at 01:59pm
I am not a supporter of the BNP, but I think it's a good thing we have parties like this.

The main three parties in the government have become transparent, they have the some ideals, arguments and agenda's

The have lost the faith of the British public and have done nothing to gain it back. You need parties like the BNP to show the government that they are failing

the fact that over 3 million people voted for BNP shows hows and excuse my language, the country had become pissed off with the public being taken for a ride

Asylum seekers is a problem, as a country we do not have the money or facilities to deal with this many people yet we have no law enforcement to deal with it, like recently with convicted immigrant of rape and robbery not being removed from the country and the tax payer is supporting them

it's not right, it's not fair. I don't agree with BNP's Policies but in the local election i voted for them. I knew they wouldn't gain the seat as I live in a 'safe' labour seat so I saw it as a vote for change.

if the BNP gain power britain is in trouble, because they have one-sided views and do not take every matter of political control into the manifesto. BUT if we outlaw these small parties that give the people a voice, then i don't want to live here
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Falling In Love With The Board
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 9026
June 11th, 2006 at 12:41pm
People have lost faith in the main Parties and it seems as though many turn to the BNP and NF in agreement of most of their policies.

The arrangements of Immigration for example, grates on people's nerves when you see people who have been in the country for a short amount of time being allowed to move into 3/4 bedroom houses, weras people who have been citizens since birth are refused this right and have to live in crabby blocks of two-bedroom flats not suited for three children.
But then it has to be considered that a lot of these people have come from situations worse than our own i.e Wars and major depressions, and are in search of a better life. Even so, in my opinion, they shouldn't be put above anyone else; they are now citizens of Britain and shouldn't be treated any better. They'll have to work to make a living, like any other decent person in Britian, which many do.
But that doesn't mean people have to go and vote for BNP or the NF. Take it to the government mon!!!!

But under any circumstances, i don't agree with them condemning racist murders (Stephen Laurence for example) and trying to promote a one-race society. People need to accept that Britain is a multi-cultural Society, i doubt that it will change otherwise unless they did come into power.

And if they did come into power, we'd be fucked. We need other ways of persuading the Government to listen, because voting for Parties like these is basically is a rebellion against other parties who aren't listening. But some people who vote for them are probably just nob-ends that don't like the idea of other races in 'their country.' They can go fuck themselves.

But seriously, i hate the fact people can't get used to Multi-Curtural Britain!!!And what perosnally annoys me is that the National Front head-quarters are practically up the road from me!!!! Cunts.

I dont like the BNP or NF. basically.
NeoSteph
Basket Case
NeoSteph
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 16494

Mibba Blog
June 11th, 2006 at 02:41pm
but thats the problem, Britain is not a multi-cultural society by definition it's only been in recent years that the government tries to show the UK in this light. Which scraps British tradition.
Matt Smith
Admin
Matt Smith
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 31134

Mibba Blog
June 11th, 2006 at 02:49pm
And is British tradition (one thing the BNP are very hot on) really worth holding onto?

The BNP prey on people's fears, leech on xenopohbia and suchlike. Its how they operate.
NeoSteph
Basket Case
NeoSteph
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 16494

Mibba Blog
June 11th, 2006 at 02:53pm
Bloodraine:
And is British tradition (one thing the BNP are very hot on) really worth holding onto?

The BNP prey on people's fears, leech on xenopohbia and suchlike. Its how they operate.


It's unfair to see that the BNP was born from the british way of life

Britians have different ways of communicating, socialising, the way we see humor for example, and the influx of people coming into this country have different traditions but instead of welcoming and repescting our tradtion, values and rules they live in cut-off communities and don't contribute to the economy, I'm not saying they should re-nounce their religion or whatever but they need to accept our culture because it's our country

Tradition is a very important concept.
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Falling In Love With The Board
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 9026
June 11th, 2006 at 03:14pm
NeoSteph:
but thats the problem, Britain is not a multi-cultural society by definition it's only been in recent years that the government tries to show the UK in this light. Which scraps British tradition.


I think Britian is Multi-Cultural in the sense that it houses many different nationalities and races, but i still can't understand why different races are still referred to as 'ethnic minorities'. this shouldn't be the case if Britain is truly multi-cultural/racial... that term seems kind of degrading to me... anyway, i went off-topic but still.
dirtyhippie
Geek
dirtyhippie
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 466
June 11th, 2006 at 03:42pm
Well, there's nothing I can say that is very incendiary here. You can't force them to not say this stuff and incite radical action, because they've been elected all legit. Not matter how bile-filled the crap they spew is, they have a right to expouse their opinions. You can't take that away just cuz they're pretty loony opinions. Ah well, here's hoping there's no riots because of them.
Matt Smith
Admin
Matt Smith
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 31134

Mibba Blog
June 11th, 2006 at 03:47pm
dirtyhippie:
Well, there's nothing I can say that is very incendiary here. You can't force them to not say this stuff and incite radical action, because they've been elected all legit. Not matter how bile-filled the crap they spew is, they have a right to expouse their opinions. You can't take that away just cuz they're pretty loony opinions. Ah well, here's hoping there's no riots because of them.

There was.
Near my hometown.
I think I said that up there...
dirtyhippie
Geek
dirtyhippie
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 466
June 11th, 2006 at 03:51pm
...Yeah, I have short term memory...difficulties. You did say that.

Well let's hope there aren't any more...
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Falling In Love With The Board
Tramp Bear!!! oh yeah.
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 9026
June 11th, 2006 at 03:52pm
Well methinks Meg knows how i feel about the BNP and NF Cool so yeah. i don't like them or their policies because whatever they say seems to have an underlying message dictiating racial hate. that's my opinion. innit mon.
Resistance
Geek
Resistance
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 133
June 11th, 2006 at 07:50pm
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.
Kurtni
Admin
Kurtni
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 34289

Mibba Blog
June 11th, 2006 at 07:57pm
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.
I absolutely Love that movie, it's awesome.
GreenDayislife
Idiot
GreenDayislife
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 705
June 11th, 2006 at 10:14pm
i do not support them but it think they have as much right as everyone else to be a party. you cant just say "i dont believe in what your party stands for so your not alowed to exist". they have just as big a right as bush does to run for president. even though some people might concider what they do moraly wrong they still have a right to exist and gain support if they want jsut as any other party. by the way i am compleatly against them in all ways possible even though they dont affect me at all.
Matt Smith
Admin
Matt Smith
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Posts: 31134

Mibba Blog
June 12th, 2006 at 11:03am
I_worship_tre_Cool:
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.
I absolutely Love that movie, it's awesome.

You should go read the book, its a great picture novel.
I haven't ever seen the move but the book is great.

People like Steph who aren't racist still vote for the BNP as a strategic thing. Surely, if more people did this, the government would have to take action? wake up call?. I doubt the BNP will be in power anytime soon (hopefully), and considering that I can see the motives.
Kurtni
Admin
Kurtni
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 34289

Mibba Blog
June 12th, 2006 at 11:44am
Bloodraine:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.
I absolutely Love that movie, it's awesome.

You should go read the book, its a great picture novel.
I haven't ever seen the move but the book is great.

People like Steph who aren't racist still vote for the BNP as a strategic thing. Surely, if more people did this, the government would have to take action? wake up call?. I doubt the BNP will be in power anytime soon (hopefully), and considering that I can see the motives.
Extreme political parties keep the other political parties in Check so they don't do anything stupid, and they have to campagin against them. I think they are important.


Im in the process of reading the novel actually, even though I already know what happens, it's still awesome.
NeoSteph
Basket Case
NeoSteph
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 16494

Mibba Blog
June 12th, 2006 at 02:35pm
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.


voting for outside parties is a strategy vote, my ballet slip offered no other alternative vote but main parties.

Poltiics is not as black and whtie like it sometimes shown in the movies.
Lucifers Angel
King For A Couple Of Days
Lucifers Angel
Age: -
Gender: Female
Posts: 4751
June 12th, 2006 at 04:03pm
NeoSteph:
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.


voting for outside parties is a strategy vote, my ballet slip offered no other alternative vote but main parties.

Poltiics is not as black and whtie like it sometimes shown in the movies.


it doesnt matter who we vote for and wy we vote for them has soon has they walk into number 10 they will forget all they promised.
NeoSteph
Basket Case
NeoSteph
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Posts: 16494

Mibba Blog
June 13th, 2006 at 07:26am
Magne:
NeoSteph:
WillkommenZumPolizeistaat:
Clearly people who vote for the BNP never read or watched V for Vendetta.


voting for outside parties is a strategy vote, my ballet slip offered no other alternative vote but main parties.

Poltiics is not as black and whtie like it sometimes shown in the movies.


it doesnt matter who we vote for and wy we vote for them has soon has they walk into number 10 they will forget all they promised.


There was never an chance of BNP winning the election so I voted for them instead of putting my vote to a party I don't believe in, I wouldn't of voted at all, except I hate voter apathy.
ImBlindAndISmellLikeShit
Shoot Me, I'm A Newbie
ImBlindAndISmellLikeShit
Age: -
Gender: -
Posts: 22
June 13th, 2006 at 08:36am
I think everyone has a right to say what the want, but I dont think people of autority or power should be able to use propaganda to change people's minds on hurtful issues, exspecially ones as extreem as racism.
Register