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spill_no_sick
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June 20th, 2006 at 10:58am
I know I've started a topic on anti-censorship on TV, I've started one on the ESRB, now I'm starting one on the mpaa

now, I'm listening to a radio show talking about the movie Facing the Giants
it's rated PG for "Heavy Evangalism"
for those who aren't aquainted with Christianese, that just means that it's a Christian movie
now, I've been boycotting the mpaa for a year or two now....
they've messed up with more films than that
Good Night, and Good Luck was rated PG for heavy cigarette smoking, and Pink Panther was rated PG for nothing offensive

I'm sorry, but the mpaa doesn't even have a code of rating saying, "well, three F-Bombs makes it R, etc."
they just slap a rating on there

and they aren't quite sure of how much they effect
they're setting age restrictions on movies just because they feel like it, without a code of evaluation

it's just, "well, this feels PG-13-ish"
the thing is, people under the age of thirteen can't see it unless a parent goes with them....who the hell goes to the movie with their parents?

the mpaa shouldn't have this kind of control, they should just tell us what's in the movie (heavy language, mild nudity, heavy smoking, etc.) but not how old we have to be to watch it

I know plenty of anti-Christian parents who would never let their child go to see a movie with evangelism, and I know parents (like mine) who let their kids see R rated movies as long as there isn't nudity or too many sexual themes
the age is up to the parents, the mpaa should only tell us what is in the movie, not who can see it
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:00pm
spill_no_sick:
I know I've started a topic on anti-censorship on TV, I've started one on the ESRB, now I'm starting one on the mpaa

now, I'm listening to a radio show talking about the movie Facing the Giants
it's rated PG for "Heavy Evangalism"
for those who aren't aquainted with Christianese, that just means that it's a Christian movie
now, I've been boycotting the mpaa for a year or two now....
they've messed up with more films than that
Good Night, and Good Luck was rated PG for heavy cigarette smoking, and Pink Panther was rated PG for nothing offensive

I'm sorry, but the mpaa doesn't even have a code of rating saying, "well, three F-Bombs makes it R, etc."
they just slap a rating on there

and they aren't quite sure of how much they effect
they're setting age restrictions on movies just because they feel like it, without a code of evaluation

it's just, "well, this feels PG-13-ish"
the thing is, people under the age of thirteen can't see it unless a parent goes with them....who the hell goes to the movie with their parents?

the mpaa shouldn't have this kind of control, they should just tell us what's in the movie (heavy language, mild nudity, heavy smoking, etc.) but not how old we have to be to watch it

I know plenty of anti-Christian parents who would never let their child go to see a movie with evangelism, and I know parents (like mine) who let their kids see R rated movies as long as there isn't nudity or too many sexual themes
the age is up to the parents, the mpaa should only tell us what is in the movie, not who can see it



i can undertsnad what your saying i really can i hate cencorship who has a right to sit in a room waqtch a film and decide that i cant watch it, i am old enough to decide for myself,

BUT would you let a 9yr old watch From Dusk Till Dawn or Pulp Fiction? Once a child has seen somthing horrible the they cant go back and not see it, its to late, we have to protect children
spill_no_sick
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:04pm
we do, but their parents should take responsibility
what if I want to see it in theaters?
I can't because my dad doesn't like those movies, and my mom doesn't like those movies, and now I have no parent to see it with

yes, there should be a warning, but not a restriction
Lucifers Angel
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:07pm
spill_no_sick:
we do, but their parents should take responsibility
what if I want to see it in theaters?
I can't because my dad doesn't like those movies, and my mom doesn't like those movies, and now I have no parent to see it with

yes, there should be a warning, but not a restriction


i do agree with you like i said i hate censorship, i guess this is where my kids especialy the oldest on is lucky because i love films like that i would take him, but i think that we should be cearful about what children watch, are you talking about older children watching older typr films or letting the younger ones watch the older typr films?
newagecarny
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Mibba
June 20th, 2006 at 12:11pm
-feels bad about not knowing who the mpaa are-

But I get your message.

spill_no_sick:

the age is up to the parents, the mpaa should only tell us what is in the movie, not who can see it


What can I say but agree?
They should be aware of that. Also, what's the point of going that far?
Any kid can watch porn from the internet.

Imagine the day when internet starts being illegal to people younger than 18. Surprised
spill_no_sick
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:11pm
Magne:
spill_no_sick:
we do, but their parents should take responsibility
what if I want to see it in theaters?
I can't because my dad doesn't like those movies, and my mom doesn't like those movies, and now I have no parent to see it with

yes, there should be a warning, but not a restriction


i do agree with you like i said i hate censorship, i guess this is where my kids especialy the oldest on is lucky because i love films like that i would take him, but i think that we should be cearful about what children watch, are you talking about older children watching older typr films or letting the younger ones watch the older typr films?
I mean the mpaa is giving ratings for age when age is so subjective
there should just be a "Parental Advisery: (insert reason here)" and then the parents give permission or not
like on CDs

think about it, I'm in my mid-teens, there are plenty of movies I can't see because I don't have a parent that will go with me (that hasn't stopped me from sneaking in, but let's say I'm a lawabiding teen for a second) is any of that fair?
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:12pm
I See no point in ratings, at all. They serve no purpose other than to give false Ideas about movies and music. If they want to rate things, let them. It's ignorant, but let them. If parents were truely concernced with what their kids were doing, they would get off their ass and pay attention. If you're going to judge something by a little sticker on a movie case or a box in the corner of a movie poster at the theaters if it's acceptable, then you're no parent anyways. What really angers me are the parenst who live by those ratings are protest anything rated R (..or above) and they havnt even seen it, they based it soley on what someone else has said. It just goes to show how brainwashed the media has some people.

The problem I have with ratings is not being able to see movies in the theaters without having someone else buy my ticket. Who are they to judge that every 14 year old in the world is at the same mental maurity level and can tolerate the movie at hand? It's ignorant, and for me, it's never enforced when buying DVD's. So it's ok for me to buy them, but I can't see them in theaters. Awhile ago some guy got arrested at the theater for buying 15 year olds tickets to see V is for Vendetta. I don't know if he went to jail or got fined, but he was arrested and taken off in a poilice car because the kids parenst were there seeing something and they didnt know, so they got busted.

Whats even worse is when movies get ratings they don't want, and they know the audience they want can't see it, so they edit their movie to get it down to PG-13. I think ratings are just another way to increase laziness and provide a false image that allows people to use them and say they are "good" parents.
Kitti
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:12pm
Ella:
-feels bad about not knowing who the mpaa are-
MPAA: Motion Picture Association of America
newagecarny
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Mibba
June 20th, 2006 at 12:13pm
Kitti:
Ella:
-feels bad about not knowing who the mpaa are-
MPAA: Motion Picture Association of America

Figures. xD

Thanks.
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:14pm
Censorship limits our right to free speech and it isn't fair. The whole rating thing, in my opinion gives the government to much power. Our parents should be the ones telling us what were allowed to watch. We don't need the government people acting like our parents....they are basically setting the limits of what we can and can't watch.

I hope that made sense...I'm just sick of people that think they have the right to tell me what I can and can't do or watch.
Lucifers Angel
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:15pm
spill_no_sick:
Magne:
spill_no_sick:
we do, but their parents should take responsibility
what if I want to see it in theaters?
I can't because my dad doesn't like those movies, and my mom doesn't like those movies, and now I have no parent to see it with

yes, there should be a warning, but not a restriction


i do agree with you like i said i hate censorship, i guess this is where my kids especialy the oldest on is lucky because i love films like that i would take him, but i think that we should be cearful about what children watch, are you talking about older children watching older typr films or letting the younger ones watch the older typr films?
I mean the mpaa is giving ratings for age when age is so subjective
there should just be a "Parental Advisery: (insert reason here)" and then the parents give permission or not
like on CDs

think about it, I'm in my mid-teens, there are plenty of movies I can't see because I don't have a parent that will go with me (that hasn't stopped me from sneaking in, but let's say I'm a lawabiding teen for a second) is any of that fair?


i absolutly agree with you once you reach a certain age then you should have the right to choose for yourself, and your right you shouldnt sneek in to see films but you should be able to choose for yourself, has llong has the person concerened realises that the cinema cant take any responsiblty for you getting upset
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:15pm
Ella:
-feels bad about not knowing who the mpaa are-

But I get your message.

spill_no_sick:

the age is up to the parents, the mpaa should only tell us what is in the movie, not who can see it


What can I say but agree?
They should be aware of that. Also, what's the point of going that far?
Any kid can watch porn from the internet.

Imagine the day when internet starts being illegal to people younger than 18. Surprised

hello, there are parental restrictions on the internet (I hate those too, but I use proxies.....then agian my imagination is good enough to where I don't actually use porn sites anymore, but that's a different matter)

the mpaa is a tyranny of American movie ratings
they have complete control over the ratings of our movies and half the ratings don't even make sense

you should be glad you live in Europe
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:19pm
I know how Molly couldn't watch Jackass the Movie in the living room in front of her parents because of the 'R' rating.
She's 12.
See, in this case, her parents might have assumed that there was some language/violence in the film but they didn't really care about the whole concept of it (not that it's something too special), they just saw the rating and automatically said no. My dad always used to do that.

Ratings are pretty useless if you ask me, they produce stereotypes.
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:21pm
Ella:
I know how Molly couldn't watch Jackass the Movie in the living room in front of her parents because of the 'R' rating.
She's 12.
See, in this case, her parents might have assumed that there was some language/violence in the film but they didn't really care about the whole concept of it (not that it's something too special), they just saw the rating and automatically said no. My dad always used to do that.

Ratings are pretty useless if you ask me, they produce stereotypes.


if its a films on DVD and my kids want to watch it i will watch it first, but only if the rating is older than they are, i tend to jugde for myself i agree however with spill_no_sick
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:23pm
spill_no_sick:
Ella:
-feels bad about not knowing who the mpaa are-

But I get your message.

spill_no_sick:

the age is up to the parents, the mpaa should only tell us what is in the movie, not who can see it


What can I say but agree?
They should be aware of that. Also, what's the point of going that far?
Any kid can watch porn from the internet.

Imagine the day when internet starts being illegal to people younger than 18. Surprised

hello, there are parental restrictions on the internet (I hate those too, but I use proxies.....then agian my imagination is good enough to where I don't actually use porn sites anymore, but that's a different matter)

the mpaa is a tyranny of American movie ratings
they have complete control over the ratings of our movies and half the ratings don't even make sense

you should be glad you live in Europe

I'm not too familiar to those parental restrictions but a lot of really young kids have access to it somehow.

Quote
I use proxies.....then agian my imagination is good enough to where I don't actually use porn sites anymore, but that's a different matter)

I'll pretend I didn't hear/read that. Cool

Well I'm not too glad I live in Europe, but I won't go too off topic now.
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June 20th, 2006 at 12:42pm
Well, I agree .. there should be a warning .. no restriction ..

Well, my parents let me watch everything o_o
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June 20th, 2006 at 01:20pm
I_Worship_tre_Cool:
I See no point in ratings, at all. They serve no purpose other than to give false Ideas about movies and music. If they want to rate things, let them. It's ignorant, but let them. If parents were truely concernced with what their kids were doing, they would get off their ass and pay attention. If you're going to judge something by a little sticker on a movie case or a box in the corner of a movie poster at the theaters if it's acceptable, then you're no parent anyways. What really angers me are the parenst who live by those ratings are protest anything rated R (..or above) and they havnt even seen it, they based it soley on what someone else has said. It just goes to show how brainwashed the media has some people.

The problem I have with ratings is not being able to see movies in the theaters without having someone else buy my ticket. Who are they to judge that every 14 year old in the world is at the same mental maurity level and can tolerate the movie at hand? It's ignorant, and for me, it's never enforced when buying DVD's. So it's ok for me to buy them, but I can't see them in theaters. Awhile ago some guy got arrested at the theater for buying 15 year olds tickets to see V is for Vendetta. I don't know if he went to jail or got fined, but he was arrested and taken off in a poilice car because the kids parenst were there seeing something and they didnt know, so they got busted.

Whats even worse is when movies get ratings they don't want, and they know the audience they want can't see it, so they edit their movie to get it down to PG-13. I think ratings are just another way to increase laziness and provide a false image that allows people to use them and say they are "good" parents.
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June 20th, 2006 at 02:54pm
well in a sense I think some of the ratings I see on films are not thought out properly and it looks like someones gone
''oh boobs that will scar a child''

but I also think that parents are not with there children twenty four seven. and if a group of 11 year olds went to the cinema saw a film that really should be for adult viewing only, and if it was a horror for example, they would have nightmares, be scared and not enjoy it.

So I do think that in circumstance like that officials need to take responcibility to protect for whent he parents is not there.

It's like when your at school the teacher becomes the parental, raising a generation is the community's responcibility. You can't molly-coddle your children you have to let them have freedom at the same time knowing that there are restriction in the worl to protect them.
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June 20th, 2006 at 06:09pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
I See no point in ratings, at all. They serve no purpose other than to give false Ideas about movies and music. If they want to rate things, let them. It's ignorant, but let them. If parents were truely concernced with what their kids were doing, they would get off their ass and pay attention. If you're going to judge something by a little sticker on a movie case or a box in the corner of a movie poster at the theaters if it's acceptable, then you're no parent anyways. What really angers me are the parenst who live by those ratings are protest anything rated R (..or above) and they havnt even seen it, they based it soley on what someone else has said. It just goes to show how brainwashed the media has some people.

The problem I have with ratings is not being able to see movies in the theaters without having someone else buy my ticket. Who are they to judge that every 14 year old in the world is at the same mental maurity level and can tolerate the movie at hand? It's ignorant, and for me, it's never enforced when buying DVD's. So it's ok for me to buy them, but I can't see them in theaters. Awhile ago some guy got arrested at the theater for buying 15 year olds tickets to see V is for Vendetta. I don't know if he went to jail or got fined, but he was arrested and taken off in a poilice car because the kids parenst were there seeing something and they didnt know, so they got busted.

Whats even worse is when movies get ratings they don't want, and they know the audience they want can't see it, so they edit their movie to get it down to PG-13. I think ratings are just another way to increase laziness and provide a false image that allows people to use them and say they are "good" parents.


exactly
that's exactly right
parents aren't even parents anymore
they don't care anymore
it's honestly that simple
our parents don't fully read into us, or fully care, that's why there are these handy cliff notes everywhere

"if your child is a teenager, their angst is normal, so you still don't have to give a shit about your child"

the same goes for movies, "if your child is under eleven, they can't see PG movies, if they're under thirteen they need an adult to watch a PG-13 movie with them, etc."

the reason they can have control over us, and have this kind of power that's abused over us *cough*tyranny*cough* is because parents don't care

they think they care because they read the cliff notes, but they honestly don't care
spill_no_sick
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June 20th, 2006 at 06:22pm
NeoSteph:
well in a sense I think some of the ratings I see on films are not thought out properly and it looks like someones gone
''oh boobs that will scar a child''

but I also think that parents are not with there children twenty four seven. and if a group of 11 year olds went to the cinema saw a film that really should be for adult viewing only, and if it was a horror for example, they would have nightmares, be scared and not enjoy it.

So I do think that in circumstance like that officials need to take responcibility to protect for whent he parents is not there.

It's like when your at school the teacher becomes the parental, raising a generation is the community's responcibility. You can't molly-coddle your children you have to let them have freedom at the same time knowing that there are restriction in the worl to protect them.
but the restrictions are so severe because of those small cases

I agree that there should be parental consent, but the parent doesn't have to be WITH you when you go to the movie
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