Is Religion The Root Of All Evil?

Poette:

Not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, but it doesn't seem to me that she claimed that no one could.

Oh really?

Anji:

People can't live without habit, it's a fact.

Anji:

There is always consistency in the way we live, nobody can live, honestly without a routine in life,

Poette:

It is a fact that she doesn't think she could survive. Nowhere did she say that she believes no one could.

Don't argue a point just because you feel like it. You should have something to back up what you're arguing.

Anji and I aren't arguing a point just "because we feel like it" We're discussing something because we disagree, and you obviously didn't read our entire conversation before jumping in and accusing me of misquoting her. That's ok though, but You should have something to back up what you're arguing.

Kurtni:

Poette:

Not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, but it doesn't seem to me that she claimed that no one could.

Oh really?

Anji:

People can't live without habit, it's a fact.

Anji:

There is always consistency in the way we live, nobody can live, honestly without a routine in life,

Poette:

It is a fact that she doesn't think she could survive. Nowhere did she say that she believes no one could.

Don't argue a point just because you feel like it. You should have something to back up what you're arguing.

Anji and I aren't arguing a point just "because we feel like it" We're discussing something because we disagree, and you obviously didn't read our entire conversation before jumping in and accusing me of misquoting her. That's ok though, but You should have something to back up what you're arguing.

I did read your entire conversation, and from what you quoted the first time, you made it seem as though you were criticizing her for no reason. To me, you did misquote her, but that's simply my opinion. No big deal.

Poette:

I did read your entire conversation, and from what you quoted the first time, you made it seem as though you were criticizing her for no reason. To me, you did misquote her, but that's simply my opinion. No big deal.

For no reason? I'm quite certain I made it clear I was questioning her calling that a fact and not an opinion. They're two very different things. And had you read our entire conversation, you would have seen she was not talking about herself as an individual for the majority of the conversation, and about people as a whole.

As I said, I did read your entire conversation, and I see that she used the words "people" as in people in general alot, but I just thought the way you quoted her was taken out of context. That's all. Nothing against you or her or the conversation you were having. I do see that she used the term "everyone", but, as I'm sure you know, when someone uses the term "everyone", it doesn't mean that they literally spoke with every single person on earth. It's just a general statement.

Poette:

when someone uses the term "everyone", it doesn't mean that they literally spoke with every single person on earth. It's just a general statement.

Anji:

There is always consistency in the way we live, nobody can live, honestly without a routine in life

She is saying that everyone does, in the literal sense of the word, and I think general statements like that are incorrect. That was the entire point of our discussion.

And how was what I quoted out of context? I took out specific quotes, but I wasn't manipulating the meaning of what she was saying, the context and content was still the same.

In my opinion, whenever a person uses the term "everyone" it isn't meant in the literal sense, because surely no ones actually met everyone on Earth. You're kind of just supposed to assume that it's a general statement. That's all I'm saying. I see your point, but I just felt that you were calling Anji out on a statement simply because you took it the wrong way.

Kurtni and I have mutual understanding. 'Tis all fun and games really.

But, Kurtni, she kinda has a point when she says that you aren't backing up what you're saying. I seriously do think that everyone on Earth lives with habit in some shape or form, literally everyone. Seriously, show me someone who doesn't.

Also, read up a bit on Absurdism, it's a really fundamental concept when discussing the philosophy of life. I never use 'absurd' in the way the dictionary denotes its meaning, I mean 'absurd' as in Sartre and Camus and Keirkegaard and the whole nine yards.

Anji:

Kurtni and I have mutual understanding. 'Tis all fun and games really.

I know. I'm not trying to fight with anyone, just voicing my opinion.

Anji:

Kurtni and I have mutual understanding. 'Tis all fun and games really.

But, Kurtni, she kinda has a point when she says that you aren't backing up what you're saying. I seriously do think that everyone on Earth lives with habit in some shape or form, literally everyone. Seriously, show me someone who doesn't.

Also, read up a bit on Absurdism, it's a really fundamental concept when discussing the philosophy of life. I never use 'absurd' in the way the dictionary denotes its meaning, I mean 'absurd' as in Sartre and Camus and Keirkegaard and the whole nine yards.

Back what up? I'm not the one claiming my opinion is fact. Your statements are inconsistent...

Anji:

I seriously do think that everyone on Earth lives with habit

Anji:

People can't live without habit, it's a fact.

Is this something you think, merely an opinion, or are you claiming it to be a fact? Just because you think something doesn't make it a fact, a personal theory perhaps, but without solid proof and evidence what you're saying is not a fact.

In my previous post, I stated that I believe it is a fact. You can believe in facts that aren't true. Like white swans, or God, or global warming. The word 'fact' is misconstrued the way the words 'belief' or 'theory' sometimes are. In the absence of meaning, facts are useless. They are antagonistic. And meaning is subjective, so facts are based on beliefs.

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i was talking with my good friend alexander today in r.e and he said that he believed that religion is just a way of explaining things that we don't really understand, such as the virgin mary having a baby.

..lol sry that was nothin 2 do with ~is religion the root of all evil~

Way to ruin the debating mood.

Anji:

You can believe in facts that aren't true.

If it isn't true, then it isn't a fact.

Yeah. All of religion is based on believing in facts that aren't true.

Kurtni:

Anji:

You can believe in facts that aren't true.

If it isn't true, then it isn't a fact.

Well then there is nothing that is fact if fact depends on meaning and meaning is subjective.

Fact = proveable. Proof is not subjective.

Anji:

Kurtni:

Anji:

You can believe in facts that aren't true.

If it isn't true, then it isn't a fact.

Well then there is nothing that is fact if fact depends on meaning and meaning is subjective.

Something is a fact because it isn't subjective. It is a fact that mass can neither be created or destroyed. That isn't subjective and there is proof to verify that. It is a fact that a body will stay at rest unless an outside net force acts upon it as stated by the law of inertia. That isn't subjective and there is evidence to back it up. Do you see the difference between real facts and the opinion you have that you're claiming to be a fact? You have no proof to verify what you're saying. You have no evidence or anything making what you're saying very subjective. You're just saying what you think, which there isn't anything wrong with that, but to act like it's a fact is wrong. Just because you choose to think something doesn't make it a fact.

Well, but just being realistic here, have you ever, ever met someone who isn't a creature of habit? We all have habits - I 100% agree that it is a true statement. Whether it's brushing your teeth every morning or going to bed at 11 every night - that is, in fact, a habit. It's something you do routinely.