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July 14th, 2007 at 01:47am
Seeing as how the Stone's destroyed.. the basilisk's dead.. etc.
Not to mention that JKR specifically said Harry wouldn't turn evil.
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July 14th, 2007 at 01:58am
Exactly!
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:38am
K. This is not like a new theory but I'm saying it anyways.

Harry is a Horcrux. Maybe not all of him, but his scar. It would make a lot of sense. Since it's a piece of Voldies soul it would explain the whole connection between both of their minds and the whole 'scar burning reading Voldies mind dream' things. And obviously there's a lot involving the scar and the connection of it with Harry and Voldemort. Maybe Harry has to kill himself in the end in order to kill Voldemort.
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:42am
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K. This is not like a new theory but I'm saying it anyways.

Harry is a Horcrux. Maybe not all of him, but his scar. It would make a lot of sense. Since it's a piece of Voldies soul it would explain the whole connection between both of their minds and the whole 'scar burning reading Voldies mind dream' things. And obviously there's a lot involving the scar and the connection of it with Harry and Voldemort. Maybe Harry has to kill himself in the end in order to kill Voldemort.
That means Harry will have to die...god dammit. Molly
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:43am
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Tig:
K. This is not like a new theory but I'm saying it anyways.

Harry is a Horcrux. Maybe not all of him, but his scar. It would make a lot of sense. Since it's a piece of Voldies soul it would explain the whole connection between both of their minds and the whole 'scar burning reading Voldies mind dream' things. And obviously there's a lot involving the scar and the connection of it with Harry and Voldemort. Maybe Harry has to kill himself in the end in order to kill Voldemort.
That means Harry will have to die...god dammit. Molly


Yeah, unless he can somehow kill the part of Voldie in him without dying and stuff.
My theory makes sense though right?
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:44am
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Tig:
K. This is not like a new theory but I'm saying it anyways.

Harry is a Horcrux. Maybe not all of him, but his scar. It would make a lot of sense. Since it's a piece of Voldies soul it would explain the whole connection between both of their minds and the whole 'scar burning reading Voldies mind dream' things. And obviously there's a lot involving the scar and the connection of it with Harry and Voldemort. Maybe Harry has to kill himself in the end in order to kill Voldemort.
That means Harry will have to die...god dammit. Molly


Yeah, unless he can somehow kill the part of Voldie in him without dying and stuff.
My theory makes sense though right?
Yes, but if it is true I refuse to acccept it. I'll throw the book out the window.
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Yes, but if it is true I refuse to acccept it. I'll throw the book out the window.


That'll do much. xD

I'm seriously hoping that there's some Sirius is this one ...
I'm still sort of denying the fact that Sirius is dead. Even though it's been made quite clear that he is, I refuse to believe it until I've read the last word of the last book.
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:53am
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Yes, but if it is true I refuse to acccept it. I'll throw the book out the window.


That'll do much. xD

I'm seriously hoping that there's some Sirius is this one ...
I'm still sort of denying the fact that Sirius is dead. Even though it's been made quite clear that he is, I refuse to believe it until I've read the last word of the last book.
I understand that.
I really think Harry sheall die though there was big foreshadowment I noticed in the fifth book.
Luna said something along the lines of: "In the evd everything comes together and they get to rejoin each other." or something like that and I'm like omgno That's like poping out of a birthday cake saying: HARRY'S GONNA SNUFF IT!

I have a very active imagination Coolio
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July 14th, 2007 at 04:26am
No, no, no, no.
I firmly believe Harry is not a horcrux.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rowling confirmed he's not, but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Reasoning:

The prophecy:
... either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives.
Neither can live while the other survives?
If Harry was a horcrux, Voldemort could most definitely live while Harry survived. In fact, the only way he could cease to live would be if Harry, and part of his soul, was dead.

Dumbledore said the final horcrux is inside Voldemort's body, and he must be killed last.
The prophecy says that Harry is the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord. If Harry was a horcrux, he would not be the only one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord, because he would have to die in order for Voldemort to be destroyed. He would not have any power; he does not necessarally have to kill himself, he doesn't have to do anything, he can be murdered and the Dark Lord could still be vanquished.

JKR said she and Trelawny both worded the prophecy very, very carefully.
If she worded it very carefully and precisely, Harry can simply not be a horcrux.

My theory on Sirius?
He's not so much dead but trapped in the "afterlife".
He won't come back, but he could make an appearance because he's not technically dead.
Rowling went to such lengths to confirm Dumbledore's death, but never, ever confirmed Sirius's. Granted, Dumbledore was much more important than Sirius, but I can guarantee she's been asked about Sirius before, but never confirmed his death, so. *shrug*
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July 14th, 2007 at 04:31am
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No, no, no, no.
I firmly believe Harry is not a horcrux.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Rowling confirmed he's not, but I could be wrong.
Anyway. Reasoning:

The prophecy:
... either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives.
Neither can live while the other survives?
If Harry was a horcrux, Voldemort could most definitely live while Harry survived. In fact, the only way he could cease to live would be if Harry, and part of his soul, was dead.

Dumbledore said the final horcrux is inside Voldemort's body, and he must be killed last.
The prophecy says that Harry is the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord. If Harry was a horcrux, he would not be the only one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord, because he would have to die in order for Voldemort to be destroyed. He would not have any power; he does not necessarally have to kill himself, he doesn't have to do anything, he can be murdered and the Dark Lord could still be vanquished.

JKR said she and Trelawny both worded the prophecy very, very carefully.
If she worded it very carefully and precisely, Harry can simply not be a horcrux.

My theory on Sirius?
He's not so much dead but trapped in the "afterlife".
He won't come back, but he could make an appearance because he's not technically dead.
Rowling went to such lengths to confirm Dumbledore's death, but never, ever confirmed Sirius's. Granted, Dumbledore was much more important than Sirius, but I can guarantee she's been asked about Sirius before, but never confirmed his death, so. *shrug*
Very good Harry Argument. I liked it very much, bravo Clap
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July 14th, 2007 at 05:13am
Thanks.
I dunno, it always bugs me when people are convinced Harry's a horcrux, because it just doesn't work, imo.
But the way the books constantly say Voldemort put part of himself into Harry and gave him some powers and stuff... it makes me re-think it.

I guess it's possible Harry/his scar will be a horcrux, but in that case, JKR will have a major plothole and some very angry fans. Confused
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July 14th, 2007 at 07:03am
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I dunno, it always bugs me when people are convinced Harry's a horcrux, because it just doesn't work, imo.
But the way the books constantly say Voldemort put part of himself into Harry and gave him some powers and stuff... it makes me re-think it.

I guess it's possible Harry/his scar will be a horcrux, but in that case, JKR will have a major plothole and some very angry fans. Confused
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July 14th, 2007 at 08:21am
I don't think Harry is a horcrux, but I don't like your arguments. Coolio


And I don't know why people can't believe that Serius is dead.
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July 14th, 2007 at 01:42pm
If any person is a Horcrux, I think Ginny would be the most likely. I re-read Chamber of Secrets not too long ago, and I really found some things pointing to it.

On page 310, US edition, is the most obvious clue, to me.

Riddle laughed, a high, cold laugh that didn't suit him. It made the hairs stand up on the back of Harry's neck.

"If I say it myself, Harry, I've always been able to charm the people I needed. So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted.... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..."


It's possible that Ginny still has part of Voldy-poo's soul in her, thus making her a Horcrux. The diary was ruined in that same scene, but is it possible that Ginny replaced the diary?

Jo has said (I forget where, I can try to track it down if you want,) that people close to Harry have to die. Ginny and Harry were and item, Ginny is close to Harry, Ginny might die anyway. Harry has to get rid of the Horcruxes, and if he had to get rid of Ginny, it would be a terrible emotional blow, which, in my opinion, would be the exact thing that Voldy-poo would want.

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July 14th, 2007 at 02:41pm
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July 14th, 2007 at 02:51pm
Pfft. Pffft Siruis not as important as Dumbledore. Siruis owns. He's Harry's godfather. Of course he's important!
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July 14th, 2007 at 02:55pm
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July 14th, 2007 at 02:59pm
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If any person is a Horcrux, I think Ginny would be the most likely. I re-read Chamber of Secrets not too long ago, and I really found some things pointing to it.

On page 310, US edition, is the most obvious clue, to me.

Riddle laughed, a high, cold laugh that didn't suit him. It made the hairs stand up on the back of Harry's neck.

"If I say it myself, Harry, I've always been able to charm the people I needed. So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted.... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..."


It's possible that Ginny still has part of Voldy-poo's soul in her, thus making her a Horcrux. The diary was ruined in that same scene, but is it possible that Ginny replaced the diary?

Jo has said (I forget where, I can try to track it down if you want,) that people close to Harry have to die. Ginny and Harry were and item, Ginny is close to Harry, Ginny might die anyway. Harry has to get rid of the Horcruxes, and if he had to get rid of Ginny, it would be a terrible emotional blow, which, in my opinion, would be the exact thing that Voldy-poo would want.

My two knuts.
As Be said, good imagination. But I think that Voldmort was only talking metaphorically.

Besides, how could Voldlie know that Harry and Ginny were going to date each other in 4 years. He might be powerful but he can't read the future!
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:13pm
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As Be said, good imagination. But I think that Voldmort was only talking metaphorically.

Besides, how could Voldlie know that Harry and Ginny were going to date each other in 4 years. He might be powerful but he can't read the future!


Well, Voldy wouldn't have chosen Ginny just 'cause Harry would date her. I'm saying that those are two separate points saying that she could be. I mean, Slytherin's locket doesn't hold any special meaning to Harry, but it's still a Horcrux.

As I said, if any person were to be a Horcrux, I think Ginny would be most likely. That doesn't mean that she is, but since a lot of people seem to think that Harry is a Horcrux, that means it wouldn't totally rule out a person being one, even though it being him wouldn't make any sense.

Or maybe I just need to re-check the Lexicon again...
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July 14th, 2007 at 03:15pm
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As Be said, good imagination. But I think that Voldmort was only talking metaphorically.

Besides, how could Voldlie know that Harry and Ginny were going to date each other in 4 years. He might be powerful but he can't read the future!


Well, Voldy wouldn't have chosen Ginny just 'cause Harry would date her. I'm saying that those are two separate points saying that she could be. I mean, Slytherin's locket doesn't hold any special meaning to Harry, but it's still a Horcrux.

As I said, if any person were to be a Horcrux, I think Ginny would be most likely. That doesn't mean that she is, but since a lot of people seem to think that Harry is a Horcrux, that means it wouldn't totally rule out a person being one, even though it being him wouldn't make any sense.

Or maybe I just need to re-check the Lexicon again...
Voldemort didn't choose. Lucius Malfoy gave the diary to Ginny Weasley in Floursih and Blott's.
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