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November 11th, 2008 at 02:27pm
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Take my money and my guns
Seeing as how you beniefited from education, infrastructure and our armed forces (just to name a few0 every single day of your existence, I think you can afford to finance those things.

As for guns, anyone who thinks the President has the power to ban guns clearly does not A- know the 2nd amendment, and B- has absolutely no understanding of the balancing of powers of the federal government and what the President's job is.

All of the things you accuse Obama of are so ridiculous, and nonsensical prejudices like that are why you are viewing his presidency so freaking negatively before it's even started.
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November 11th, 2008 at 04:11pm
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Shadow of a Doubt:
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GUNS ARE BAD ANYWAYS Sad


Guns are only bad when you give them to the wrong people.
When are guns ever used for good?

What do guns do? They harm people.


Yes, but they also protest people. If you are in a public place and some guy is shooting people you can get your gun out shot them and it will be all over with. (I know it's not quite that easy, but you see where I'm going). Also, people that are going to shoot other people won't shot anyone that they know is armed. They want to shoot people that are unarmed.

"It's what happened in 2002 at the Appalachian School of Law. Hearing shots, two students went to their cars, got their guns and restrained the shooter until police arrested him.

Likewise, law professor Glenn Reynolds writes, "Pearl, Miss., school shooter Luke Woodham was stopped when the school's vice principal took a .45 from his truck and ran to the scene. In (last) February's Utah mall shooting, it was an off-duty police officer who happened to be on the scene and carrying a gun".

It's impossible to know exactly how often guns stop criminals. Would-be victims don't usually report crimes that don't happen. But people use guns in self-defense every day. The Cato Institute's Tom Palmer says just showing his gun to muggers once saved his life.

"It equalizes unequals," Palmer told "20/20". "If someone gets into your house, which would you rather have, a handgun or a telephone? You can call the police if you want, and they'll get there, and they'll take a picture of your dead body. But they can't get there in time to save your life. The first line of defense is you.""

source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/guns_save_lives.html
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November 11th, 2008 at 04:13pm
Shadow of a Doubt:
Yes, but they also protest people. If you are in a public place and some guy is shooting people you can get your gun out shot them and it will be all over with.
If the first guy didn't have a gun in the first place then would the incident even happen? No.
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November 11th, 2008 at 04:34pm
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.
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November 11th, 2008 at 05:05pm
Shadow of a Doubt:
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.
Once again, if you think the President has the power to ban guns, you don't understand what the President's powers and jobs are. He did those things as a legislator, not an executive.
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November 11th, 2008 at 05:50pm
Shadow of a Doubt:
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.
If Bush could do it and Obama might, then McCain surely could as well, right?
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November 11th, 2008 at 06:03pm
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Shadow of a Doubt:
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.
If Bush could do it and Obama might, then McCain surely could as well, right?

I never said he couldn't. Now, did I?
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November 12th, 2008 at 04:22am
Shadow of a Doubt:
Boobmeister:
GUNS ARE BAD ANYWAYS Sad


Guns are only bad when you give them to the wrong people.


Or to 8 year olds. Rolling Eyes
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November 12th, 2008 at 03:09pm
Shadow of a Doubt:
ocean avenue:
Shadow of a Doubt:
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.
If Bush could do it and Obama might, then McCain surely could as well, right?

I never said he couldn't. Now, did I?
Then why did you bring up Obama taking away your guns when McCain might as well do that too.
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November 12th, 2008 at 06:06pm
Because Obama is against guns and McCain is not.

Obama's views on gun control:


McCain's views:
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November 12th, 2008 at 07:08pm
^ id just like to point out and laugh at the caption credits on the video stills.
Obamas is a news channel and mccains is well, were he came from.
THE OUTDOORS.

kdone.
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November 12th, 2008 at 07:47pm
Fine. I'll find another video.
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November 12th, 2008 at 11:22pm
NeoSteph:
Shadow of a Doubt:
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GUNS ARE BAD ANYWAYS Sad


Guns are only bad when you give them to the wrong people.


Or to 8 year olds. Rolling Eyes
Or Dick Cheney.
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November 13th, 2008 at 10:53am
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NeoSteph:
Shadow of a Doubt:
Boobmeister:
GUNS ARE BAD ANYWAYS Sad


Guns are only bad when you give them to the wrong people.


Or to 8 year olds. Rolling Eyes
Or Dick Cheney.

Orvil
Should have seen that coming.
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November 13th, 2008 at 11:30am
Obama has never favoured a ban on handguns, he said. He just don't want criminals or mentally deranged people to have guns, because well, they are the wrong people.

And well, McCain has grown up a military person, so i understand the logic in him supporting the right to bear arms, because he probably has training in using guns. McCain is also against criminals and mentally ill people to have guns though, so they agree there.
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November 13th, 2008 at 03:00pm
Will Forte.:
Or Dick Cheney.

lmfao
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November 13th, 2008 at 03:31pm
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Obama has never favoured a ban on handguns, he said. He just don't want criminals or mentally deranged people to have guns, because well, they are the wrong people.

And well, McCain has grown up a military person, so i understand the logic in him supporting the right to bear arms, because he probably has training in using guns. McCain is also against criminals and mentally ill people to have guns though, so they agree there.

To be honest, I like to think anyone with a single ounce of intelligence should want that Coolio
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November 13th, 2008 at 04:37pm
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ocean avenue:
Obama has never favoured a ban on handguns, he said. He just don't want criminals or mentally deranged people to have guns, because well, they are the wrong people.

And well, McCain has grown up a military person, so i understand the logic in him supporting the right to bear arms, because he probably has training in using guns. McCain is also against criminals and mentally ill people to have guns though, so they agree there.

To be honest, I like to think anyone with a single ounce of intelligence should want that Coolio
Well yes ofcourse lmfao
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November 15th, 2008 at 11:15am
Kurtni:
Will Forte.:
Or Dick Cheney.

lmfao
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November 16th, 2008 at 12:53am
Will Forte.:
NeoSteph:
Shadow of a Doubt:
Boobmeister:
GUNS ARE BAD ANYWAYS Sad


Guns are only bad when you give them to the wrong people.


Or to 8 year olds. Rolling Eyes
Or Dick Cheney.
YES lmfao

Shadow of a Doubt:
- Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008 )
- FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008 )
- Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008 )
- Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008 )
- 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
- Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
- Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
- Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
- Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
- Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998 )
- Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm

So, he'll slowly take them away. I don't care what you say about the Constituation. People say Bush did things against the Constititution and if that is true than why can't Obama do the same.


oh no we can only buy one per mounth that means we can only get 12 guns per year my god that is so sad i dont even see a reason to live anymore only 12 guns a year Sad Sad

no really he is not gonna take you guns away he just wants to but people like you will be all "OMGZ HE WANTS TO TAKE R GUNS WHAT A COMMIE!" and then you guys will prevent him Smile
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