Jonbenet Ramsey murder case

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October 24th, 2007 at 05:57pm
Have you ever thought about the little girl's suspicious murder?If you have...Put your ideas to this blog and have a informative discussion
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October 25th, 2007 at 02:08am
This needs to be much more informative than just one line. Explain the case, please.
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October 26th, 2007 at 10:21am
I'll field this one...

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JonBenét Patricia Ramsey (August 6, 1990 – December 26, 1996) was a six-year-old girl known for her participation in beauty pageants in the United States. She was found murdered in the basement of her parents' home in Boulder, Colorado, nearly eight hours after she was reported missing. The case is notable in both its longevity and the media interest it has generated in the United States. After several grand jury hearings the case is still unsolved.

The case drew attention throughout the United States when no suspect was charged and suspicions turned to possible family involvement. The tantalizing clues of the case inspired numerous books and articles that attempt to solve the mystery. Many details of the case, including her parents' wealth, her apparently violent death, and the fact that JonBenét had frequently been entered in beauty contests, enhanced public interest in the case.


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According to the testimony of Patsy Ramsey, on December 26, 1996, she discovered her daughter missing after finding a two and a half-page ransom note on the kitchen staircase, demanding US$118,000. Despite specific instructions in the ransom note that police and friends not be contacted, she telephoned the police and called family and friends. The local police conducted a cursory search of the house but did not find any obvious signs of a break-in or forced entry. The note suggested that the ransom collection would be monitored and JonBenét would be returned as soon as the money was obtained. John Ramsey made some arrangements for the availability of the ransom, which a friend, John Fernie, picked up that morning from a local bank. The family's liquid resources amounted to precisely US$ 118,000.[1]

In the afternoon of the same day, Boulder Police Detective Linda Arndt asked Fleet White, a friend of the Ramseys, to take John Ramsey and search the house for "anything unusual." John Ramsey and two of his friends started their search in the basement first. After first searching the bathroom and "train room," the two went to a "wine cellar" room (not actually used for that purpose) where John found his daughter's body covered in a white blanket. Later that evening, a search warrant was issued that authorized the police to remove the body. Normally this procedure would be performed under consent of the parents.

The results of the autopsy revealed that JonBenét was killed by strangulation and a skull fracture. A garrotte made from a length of nylon cord and the handle of a paintbrush had been used to strangle her; her skull had suffered severe blunt trauma; she likely was sexually assaulted either with a finger or with a paintbrush, but there was no evidence of conventional rape. The official cause of death was asphyxia due to strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma. The bristle end of the paint brush was found in a tub of Patsy Ramsey's art supplies, but the top third never was located despite extensive searching of the house by law enforcement in subsequent days.[2] Experts noted that the construction of the garrotte required a special knowledge of knots. Autopsy also revealed that the child had eaten pineapple only a few hours before the murder, of which her mother claimed to be unaware[3]. Photographs of the home, taken the day JonBenét's body was found, show a bowl of pineapple on the kitchen table with a spoon in it. Neither Patsy nor John remembers putting this bowl on the table or feeding it to JonBenét[3].


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October 27th, 2007 at 12:41am
do you have any idea how much kids get kidnapped/murdered? It's annoying that the press just finds a few kids and freaks out about them getting kidnapped and ignores the others. I mean it's horrible what happend to her, but why just care about her due to the fact that she was in little beauty pagents?
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October 27th, 2007 at 01:50am
BayareatasticPolexia:
do you have any idea how much kids get kidnapped/murdered? It's annoying that the press just finds a few kids and freaks out about them getting kidnapped and ignores the others. I mean it's horrible what happend to her, but why just care about her due to the fact that she was in little beauty pagents?


Don't shoot the messenger, I know little of this case...I was just changing an annoyingly pointless thread into a discussion with a little info.

I won't be discussing this further, it's like the Maddy thing- if they weren't pretty kids, nobody would give a damn.
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October 27th, 2007 at 12:17pm
Isn't it great, the coverage that Thailand gets when it comes to child pornography, abuse, murders and kidnappings. Again, just recently, Interpol's top child pornographer was arrested here.

I still don't know why Thailand, seriously, I mean do we really have that bad of a reputation to everyone else?
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October 28th, 2007 at 06:36am
BayareatasticPolexia:
do you have any idea how much kids get kidnapped/murdered? It's annoying that the press just finds a few kids and freaks out about them getting kidnapped and ignores the others. I mean it's horrible what happend to her, but why just care about her due to the fact that she was in little beauty pagents?

She's getting so much attention because to this day NO ONE knows for sure who did it.
She was a little girl, beautiful, innocent and had a huge future ahead of her.
Then she turns up dead.
Several people confess to her murder, but not a single one of them can actually be tied down to the crime.

Don't you find it just a little interesting?

Mind you, you're 14; you wouldn't remember all the fuss her death caused. It's a topic worthy of discussion and I actually find your post ignorant and offensive on hers and her family's behalf Hand
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October 28th, 2007 at 05:35pm
I've seen pictures of that poor kid, she didn't look human.

I think I wrote something about this...

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Being a carefree child in the world today is quickly becoming shorter and shorter. I mean, look at the first picture (JonBenét Ramsey, the murdered beauty queen). Can you believe that she was - at most- six years old in that picture? I do not know what age she actually was in the picture because it didn't tell me. She had been entered into loads of beauty competitions like America's Royal Miss, Colorado State All-Star Kids Cover Girl, Little Miss Charlevoix Michigan, Little Miss Merry Christmas, Little Miss Sunburst, and National Tiny Miss Beauty.

Is it me or is the fact that you're entering a minor into a competition that basically focuses on your beauty? To me, it borders on paedophilia. I mean, if nothing, these competitions are encouraging paedophiles to consider their tastes as normal if the girls are being made to look far older and grown up than they already are. If anyone has seen 'Little Miss Sunshine', then this point is further proven by the writers of the script made the entrant from the Hoover family, Olive, started doing a stripping routine as shown by her grandfather.

I mean, what did you do at her age, play with dolls or Lego or learn how to use hairspray and lipstick?

I remember being six years old and the biggest worry I had then was learning how to multiply by two. I remember not giving a damn about what I wore and just did all the usual things a kid does at that age, play with dirt, draw with crayons, read books, go biking, go swimming, collecting bugs, climbing trees, walking the dog and going to the park to play on the swings. I don't think it is appropriate to let kids that age worry if their hair is properly done or that their eye shadow is not the right shade of grey.

That's my opinion anyway; I'd love to hear any of your comments.

(Information about JonBenet from Wikipedia).
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October 28th, 2007 at 07:48pm
Tokyo Hardcore:
BayareatasticPolexia:
do you have any idea how much kids get kidnapped/murdered? It's annoying that the press just finds a few kids and freaks out about them getting kidnapped and ignores the others. I mean it's horrible what happend to her, but why just care about her due to the fact that she was in little beauty pagents?

She's getting so much attention because to this day NO ONE knows for sure who did it.
She was a little girl, beautiful, innocent and had a huge future ahead of her.
Then she turns up dead.
Several people confess to her murder, but not a single one of them can actually be tied down to the crime.

Don't you find it just a little interesting?

Mind you, you're 14; you wouldn't remember all the fuss her death caused. It's a topic worthy of discussion and I actually find your post ignorant and offensive on hers and her family's behalf Hand
I find your post insulting and condescending. I'm eighteen, and I barely remember it, because I thought it superfluous for the story to get so much coverage, when there's a genocide in Darfur, the situation in Iraq is deteriorating, etc, etc.

I agree with her. The only reason this story got so much coverage was because the girl had been in beauty pagents and whatnot. If she'd been some average little girl with an average life and average looks, this wouldn't have gotten even a quarter of the coverage it did.
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October 28th, 2007 at 07:50pm
That's true. When famous people get hurt, everyone cares more. After all, Angelina Jolie's not the only one to steal someone's husband but people care about her because she's famous.

However, it also does make it more interesting because what if the murderer was one of those mentally unsound wackjobs who's all "I did it for her! I was saving her! She should thank me!!!" or something?
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October 28th, 2007 at 07:55pm
lyrical_mess:
That's true. When famous people get hurt, everyone cares more. After all, Angelina Jolie's not the only one to steal someone's husband but people care about her because she's famous.

However, it also does make it more interesting because what if the murderer was one of those mentally unsound wackjobs who's all "I did it for her! I was saving her! She should thank me!!!" or something?
I didn't know that, actually. I saw pictures of the man, but like I said, I didn't really follow the story.

I'm sure that did add to the dramatics, but there are probably plenty of murders like this that aren't publicized. Dno
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October 28th, 2007 at 08:08pm
I never even heard of this until now. I'm just speculating.
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October 29th, 2007 at 11:03am
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
Tokyo Hardcore:
BayareatasticPolexia:
do you have any idea how much kids get kidnapped/murdered? It's annoying that the press just finds a few kids and freaks out about them getting kidnapped and ignores the others. I mean it's horrible what happend to her, but why just care about her due to the fact that she was in little beauty pagents?

She's getting so much attention because to this day NO ONE knows for sure who did it.
She was a little girl, beautiful, innocent and had a huge future ahead of her.
Then she turns up dead.
Several people confess to her murder, but not a single one of them can actually be tied down to the crime.

Don't you find it just a little interesting?

Mind you, you're 14; you wouldn't remember all the fuss her death caused. It's a topic worthy of discussion and I actually find your post ignorant and offensive on hers and her family's behalf Hand
I find your post insulting and condescending. I'm eighteen, and I barely remember it, because I thought it superfluous for the story to get so much coverage, when there's a genocide in Darfur, the situation in Iraq is deteriorating, etc, etc.

I agree with her. The only reason this story got so much coverage was because the girl had been in beauty pagents and whatnot. If she'd been some average little girl with an average life and average looks, this wouldn't have gotten even a quarter of the coverage it did.

And what? Does this mean we shouldn't care? It's not the public's descision that not all abductions/murders are covered!
Don't me for the media's faults and yes, I was insulting her because in MY opinion she seemed heartless and indifferent.
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October 31st, 2007 at 05:27am
Tokyo Hardcore:
And what? Does this mean we shouldn't care? It's not the public's descision that not all abductions/murders are covered!
Don't me for the media's faults and yes, I was insulting her because in MY opinion she seemed heartless and indifferent.
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Rolling Eyes I find the media circus surrounding this event disgraceful. It was excessive, when any other child would have gotten maybe ten minutes on the news, a mention in the paper.

And I resent the fact that you told her she wouldn't understand because she was fourteen. From what I've seen of her posts, she's an intelligent girl and you have no right to assume otherwise.
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November 5th, 2007 at 03:03am
^ yes, I do have a right because in this discussion, she came across to me as ignorant and uncaring.
And, I didn't say she wouldn't understand, I said she was too young to remember. Big difference wise guy.
Let her fight her own battles eh?
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November 5th, 2007 at 06:48am
Such a weird case.

I'm so surprised not many of you guys have heard about it o_o

It's such a famous case because it is such a weird case, no foot prints in the snow, so many people 'confessed', etc etc.
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November 5th, 2007 at 10:37pm
This is such old news. Yeah, it's fucked up that she was murdered. She didn't deserve that, I feel for the family, I hope they find the person, etc. but face it, if she wasn't a little pagaent queen there would have been a few short articles in the local news and then the story would have died.
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November 24th, 2007 at 06:46pm
Tokyo Hardcore:

She's getting so much attention because to this day NO ONE knows for sure who did it.
She was a little girl, beautiful, innocent and had a huge future ahead of her.
Then she turns up dead.
Several people confess to her murder, but not a single one of them can actually be tied down to the crime.

Don't you find it just a little interesting?

Mind you, you're 14; you wouldn't remember all the fuss her death caused. It's a topic worthy of discussion and I actually find your post ignorant and offensive on hers and her family's behalf Hand


Well their are lots of people who no one is sure how they died, I'm not saying it isn't sad, I'm just saying I don't like how people don't fell so bad for the kids in darfur who die, or those kids who die in wars or who starve to death. People just see a cute little blonde kid and they think her death is worth talking about but those other kids who get killed don't matter. It's sad when all kids die, not just the "cute" ones.

Sure I'm 14, but kids can have there own well thought out views when they are young, and if it makes you understand it more their are adults with the same views. Whats ignorant and offensive is that 95% of kids who die like that are pretty much ignored by everyone. Think of all the kids in Iraq or Darfur who die like that cuz of wars, do they ever make it on the cover of every mag? no.
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November 24th, 2007 at 11:58pm
This thread had died. Why the hell would you bring it back with a post demonstrating your lack of empathy?
Anyway, why don't you MAKE a thread or website dedicated to every kid who's died? That way, this thread could go back to talking about JonBenét without the disruptions of posts unrelated to her.
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November 25th, 2007 at 12:34am
Tokyo Hardcore:
This thread had died. Why the hell would you bring it back with a post demonstrating your lack of empathy?

Tokyo Hardcore:
Let her fight her own battles eh?


Because you told her too.

Stop this now. Get back on topic.
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