Why no child is safe from the sinister cult of Emo

Kurtni:

Love my insanity:

This thread pisses me off actually.
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May I ask why?

Not the thread persay. I was talknig out of frustration, but the whole fact they made a spectacle and put it on the news. They dont cover other stories when 15 year olds kill themselves because of drugs. And I just think the whole situation is assinine, putting that families business in the enws. There child DIED why would they put that in the public eye, they have no respect for their kids life.

Well...

Suicide is NEVER because of taste of music( ok, maybe some kinds of death metal). I'm emo... Yes I think about suicide... No because music- I'd do that without music. Bands like My Chemical Romance( people plz, they're not emo- it's a kind of alternative&punk), A Static Lullaby or even Green Day, helped me a lot. They didn't save my life but helped, really.
I think that people commit suicides because life sucks at all. It doesn't matter that you're emo or not. It's also because another persons, or sometimes someone wants only attenion.

Maybe it's complicated, sorry about that ...

SunsetOverMonroevile:

ok, maybe some kinds of death metal

Why is it ok to blame death metal, but not "emo" music?

My chem is in NO WAY punk.
They are simply rock.

Love my insanity:

My chem is in NO WAY punk.
They are simply rock.

This isn't a debate on the genre of a band.

givemyselfthecreeps!:

Love my insanity:

My chem is in NO WAY punk.
They are simply rock.

This isn't a debate on the genre of a band.

but my chemical romance don't show any type of punk in their music
so they're not punk

Bleach:

givemyselfthecreeps!:

Love my insanity:

My chem is in NO WAY punk.
They are simply rock.

This isn't a debate on the genre of a band.

but my chemical romance don't show any type of punk in their music
so they're not punk

Either way it shouldn't matter what genre they are because it shouldn't define the music of a band. Just because a band i labelled "emo" doesn't mean they deal with dark themes. "Emo" was a genre that was initially defined by their poetic lyrics...

Every single genre deals with negative, depressing lyrics. Emo, punk, even pop, rap, hip hop, whatever.

Dude, nobody gives a fuck. Everyone's so sick of hearing about the "emo controversy" and nobody's blaming the real issues: School. Home. Bullies. Peers. Parents. Families. Abuse. People who don't fucking understand.
These are the things that make people kill themselves. Instead people blame and shun the things that might be kepping them alive: Their music. Their friends. Their interests. Their culture.
So if you mess with a kid and they kill themselves, juust remember: You had a hand in their death.

Skylar12:

Dude, nobody gives a fuck. Everyone's so sick of hearing about the "emo controversy" and nobody's blaming the real issues: School. Home. Bullies. Peers. Parents. Families. Abuse. People who don't fucking understand.
These are the things that make people kill themselves. Instead people blame and shun the things that might be kepping them alive: Their music. Their friends. Their interests. Their culture.
So if you mess with a kid and they kill themselves, juust remember: You had a hand in their death.

These people are blaming the music, yes.
But... shouldn't they just keep doing the things that they like and hanging out with the people that they like?
That;s not a reason to kill yourself.

In the end it's all up to the individual. These same influnces, whether they are music, friends, family or whatever, are going to have different effects. It's all up to our perception. These things should never hold the "blame".

Sky Loves Green Day:

Dude, nobody gives a fuck.

Except for the little fact that many people do. If no one cared, this wouldn't be so controversial. Parents and music clash a lot. They definitely care, ask Marilyn Manson.

SunsetOverMonroevile:

Well...

Suicide is NEVER because of taste of music( ok, maybe some kinds of death metal). I'm emo... Yes I think about suicide... No because music- I'd do that without music. Bands like My Chemical Romance( people plz, they're not emo- it's a kind of alternative&punk), A Static Lullaby or even Green Day, helped me a lot. They didn't save my life but helped, really.
I think that people commit suicides because life sucks at all. It doesn't matter that you're emo or not. It's also because another persons, or sometimes someone wants only attenion.

Maybe it's complicated, sorry about that ...

... Is English your first language?
I'm not being rude, I'm just asking because your post was a bit confusing.

Also omg lol wth, how can you say that death metal kills people when emo doesn't.

However, you are not emo. Because there is no such thing as 'being emo'

I am on side for My Chem not to be blamed because that is just retarded however a thought just occured to me.

Seeing as My Chem can 'save lives' surely they can end lives? If the music has the power to go to one end of the spectrum, then can it go the other?

You raise a good point Mhairi... I think if a band has such a positive aspect it is hard to draw a strong negative aspect. Either way I think that it's not something intentional. Everything has two sides to it and people can take the side they choose.

anyone seen the lastest 'fight back' in this weeks Kerrang! mag??
made me laugh...
if they want the press to leave them alone,
they should stop saying the things that they are,
in this case instead of fighting they should let it die,
and not worsen the situation =/
bless them and their 'MCR' saved my life bannerz!

I'd say it has nothing to do with the music

music helps us cope.

I listen to music about killing women.

that is why i no longer fantacize killing women as much as i fantacize killing men, because i get all of my agression out by screaming lyrics at the top of my lungs.
Songs like 187 (senses fail) Filthy (elysia) and My Heart is the Worst Kind Of Weapon (fall out boy) help me cope with my hatred for women (by this i mean that part of humanity. i have nothing against women separate than that that i have of men)

suicide.:

I hate it how as soon as something bad happens to a child they blame it on music. All my teenage years, my parents would blame my "rebelous behaviour" on the music that I listened to. For example, I had loads and loads of Green Day stuff on my walls, and one day when I came back from vacation, they had ripped everything down because it was "the devils music". From my own experiance, I think people should look a little deeper before pointing the finger.

There's got to be something seriously wrong with someone if they want, and try, to take their own life. People have to realise that the music isn't to blame, in many cases it can help.

Righ?:

[B]Do you think that it is wrong for the death of a 13-year old girl to be blamed entirly on her music taste and the so called 'emo' culture?[B]

Yes, I do think that it is wrong for the death of a 13-year old girl to be blamed on the music and the emo culture. Music is music. The fact that the music is being blamed is completely stupid. If anything music saves lives rather than driving people to kill themselves. Music is bassically a form of medication. People turn to music for any mood. Theres songs that can take you out of one mood and into another. Not only that music is misunderstood. The musical artist could be saying something very important, but music being so metaphorical and such can be extremely misunderstood. People tend to take it the wrong way most of the time. Another example would be the columbine massacre. So many people blamed Marilyn Manson as an influence to the kids who committed the murders, but all in all it wasn't. What it truely comes down to is, Parenting, the environment the person is in, and the mental status of the person. As for the emo culture, how is that to blame either? To most its just a fad. It's a way to fit in, and do what's cool to the crowd or people they want to hang out with. To others, its just their actual feelings. The question that really needs to be asked is, did the parents try to communicate with the daughter after she became 'emo'? Did they try to find any reasoning in it, or any major changes in the girls personallity that would've pointed to things that would lead to suicide? Like Bi-polar/ Manic depressive disorder, or depression, troubles at school, or even something going on within their home. In my opinion Daily Mail is being extremely biased.

Righ?:

Also should the 'emo' culture be banned from schools and other such places in a bid to boycot this growing fad?

I personally do not feel that the 'emo' culture should be banned from schools. It may be a fad, but none the less it is a way that kids express themselves. Why does this culture be singled out and banned? What about other cultures, like the punk, the goth, rave, or any other cultures? How come they aren't being banned, or considered to be banned like this culture. The 'emo' culture, is just like any other in my eyes, and shouldn't be treated any differently. They should allow the kids to express themselves how the please. If they wanna be 'emo' then let them. It isn't anybody's bussiness other than the person whom it concerns.

i still struggle with this whole thing because, if anything, the parents should be blamed.

i say this because when asked about the cuts on her arms, the child replied

that it was her "initiation" into the emo culture. mind you, a [b]parent[/b asked

her about these marks. now, what parent wouldn't become worried and try to solve

the problem then and there? any person, especially a concerned parent, would

know that this isn't normal behavior. so why didn't they try to locate the source

of the problem then? why didn't they put a stop to the music, her friends, her school,

or whatever they thought was the problem?

Joshontheguitar:

I'd say it has nothing to do with the music

music helps us cope.

I listen to music about killing women.

that is why i no longer fantacize killing women as much as i fantacize killing men, because i get all of my agression out by screaming lyrics at the top of my lungs.
Songs like 187 (senses fail) Filthy (elysia) and My Heart is the Worst Kind Of Weapon (fall out boy) help me cope with my hatred for women (by this i mean that part of humanity. i have nothing against women separate than that that i have of men)

...what the hell