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April 18th, 2008 at 12:32am
The US Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty does not qualify as cruel and unusual punishment and all of the states that haulted their death sentences back in September are free to resume them again. Thoughts/responses?

On another note, how do you think they'll find on their next case, about the man being put to death for molesting an 8 year old. The injuries she received required surgery to fix and she will permanently face psychological problems, if you're unfamiliar with the case. The guy is arguing that the punishment is cruel and unusual because no one has been put to death for anything but murder.
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April 18th, 2008 at 05:27pm
this might not really be important to the thread but i'm for the death penalty tbh. but only if the criminal has been convicted of murder.
i mean, if you take a life i personally think you should give yours up Dno
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April 19th, 2008 at 07:55pm
dr cunningham:
this might not really be important to the thread but i'm for the death penalty tbh. but only if the criminal has been convicted of murder.
i mean, if you take a life i personally think you should give yours up Dno
So what's the difference between a murderer and a soldier? A murderer and his executioner?
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April 20th, 2008 at 06:54pm
Kurtni:
The US Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty does not qualify as cruel and unusual punishment and all of the states that haulted their death sentences back in September are free to resume them again. Thoughts/responses?

On another note, how do you think they'll find on their next case, about the man being put to death for molesting an 8 year old. The injuries she received required surgery to fix and she will permanently face psychological problems, if you're unfamiliar with the case. The guy is arguing that the punishment is cruel and unusual because no one has been put to death for anything but murder.


Well, its unusual certainly...but no more cruel than what he did to her. If they get a little creative, they could probably cook up something worse than death.
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April 21st, 2008 at 12:17am
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Well, its unusual certainly...but no more cruel than what he did to her. If they get a little creative, they could probably cook up something worse than death.
Yeah, and the state he committed these crimes in was one of five that said you can be put to death for molesting children, so it isn't like they made the punishment up just for him. Im thinking the supreme court will say it's a just punishment
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April 21st, 2008 at 04:18pm
Read the book 'The Innocent Man' by John Grisham. It's a true story. Not a brilliant read, but shows you the injustices in the law and problems with the death penalty.

If not, read this or this. Con (Extremely short versions.) Shifty
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April 21st, 2008 at 07:38pm
I thought lethal injection is now classified under the ridiculous heading of 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 12:25am
I don't think the death penalty should be used in accordance to the crime but rather the crime and how they are after the punishment. It should be like a "three strikes, you're out" system. The person's been given two chances and if they've wasted both than the person should be sentenced to death. The strikes should be counted for crimes that are significant such as murder, homicide, rape, etc.

I think it would be wonderful if people never did the crap that might get them sentenced to death, but that's asking for too much. xD
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April 22nd, 2008 at 12:58am
Anji:
I thought lethal injection is now classified under the ridiculous heading of 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
In the US it was just found, like last week, to be constitutional. The supreme court heard the case blah blah blah... Coffee
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April 26th, 2008 at 06:34pm
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I don't think the death penalty should be used in accordance to the crime but rather the crime and how they are after the punishment. It should be like a "three strikes, you're out" system. The person's been given two chances and if they've wasted both than the person should be sentenced to death.
No. Why wait until more people get murdered or raped by the same person?

I don't agree with the death penalty, they should stay in prison until they die, because they've committed a crime and they shouldn't be able to get out so easily.
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May 3rd, 2008 at 05:13am
Oksy I have very little opinions of this... this is just a basic one
I mean, if they did something so bad that they needed to be killed, why not make them pay for what they did, and experience it, rather than not?
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I think all paedophiles and murderers should be dangled from a giant hook over a lake of hungry pirahnas.

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May 5th, 2008 at 12:26am
there are some people i would have killed, for sure, if i could have
but i'm still against the death penalty

because what if the person's innocent? it's impossible to have a 100% accurate system for convicting someone, and somewhere down the line were going to end up killing a couple innocent people. whether in the last fourty years we've killed one innocent person or hundreds, it's just not right.
and you can say "well what if they killed twenty people and raped fifty kids blah blah blah," but none of that matters if they're innocent.
and many people plead guilty because they think there's no hope of being proven innocent and they want a lighter sentence.

okay i can't source this, but i was watching some documentary, and there's this guy who was sentenced to death. a class studying crime or something re-enacted the crime just for educational reasons, and discovered it was impossible for the man to have commited the crime. he was released EIGHTH MINUTES before he was to have died.

...so yeah
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May 5th, 2008 at 04:33am
Kurtni:
The US Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty does not qualify as cruel and unusual punishment and all of the states that haulted their death sentences back in September are free to resume them again. Thoughts/responses?

On another note, how do you think they'll find on their next case, about the man being put to death for molesting an 8 year old. The injuries she received required surgery to fix and she will permanently face psychological problems, if you're unfamiliar with the case. The guy is arguing that the punishment is cruel and unusual because no one has been put to death for anything but murder.
I really don't think he should be sentanced to death. It sets a bad precedent, and opens the door for the death penalty to be considered for all sorts of other cases, as opposed to just the really heinous ones.

(Do you happen to have a link or something to an article about that case? I'd like to have my Law professor take a look at it and give me his professional opinion)
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May 5th, 2008 at 11:33pm
Ol' Blue Eyes.:


(Do you happen to have a link or something to an article about that case? I'd like to have my Law professor take a look at it and give me his professional opinion)
I don't know what your news station of choice is, but here are a few...

MSNBC article

Official Documentation of.... stuff Coolio

Wikipedia
This article is actually different than the story I was talking about but the same principle. (Fox News)
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May 7th, 2008 at 08:13pm
Well I can see the principle in it, but I don't think someone killing someone justifies another death.

I went to the Texas Death Row site last week and I found it quite interesting. You can see why these people are on deathrow, what their criminal background is, and on most "profiles" also a picture of them. You can also read some of those who got death penalty's last words, here (click the Last Statement)
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May 10th, 2008 at 01:56am
Kurtni:
Ol' Blue Eyes.:


(Do you happen to have a link or something to an article about that case? I'd like to have my Law professor take a look at it and give me his professional opinion)
I don't know what your news station of choice is, but here are a few...

MSNBC article

Official Documentation of.... stuff Coolio

Wikipedia
This article is actually different than the story I was talking about but the same principle. (Fox News)
Thank you so much, Kurtni. These are amazing, esp the court documents. Hug Hug
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July 5th, 2008 at 11:06am
I think it depends on the intensity of the crime.
If a grown woman murders a child, and there's solid proof that he did, then he should have the same sick things done to him.

If a man throws another man off of a cliff, he deserves to be thrown off a cliff, too.

At least that's how I see it....
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StephVery HappyonaNobisPacem:
I think it depends on the intensity of the crime.
If a grown woman murders a child, and there's solid proof that he did, then he should have the same sick things done to him.

If a man throws another man off of a cliff, he deserves to be thrown off a cliff, too.

At least that's how I see it....
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OKAY OKAY TOTALLY OFF TOPIC BUT:

your amazing avatar just made me laugh

...and i'm in the middle of an argument on the phone with my boyfriend lmfao
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July 23rd, 2008 at 11:29am
Off topic:
Bahahaha thanks. I started pissing myself when I layed my eyes on it. I just had to put it up.
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ON topic:

I think all states (or provinces for me, I'm Canadian) should allow the death penalty, and make sure that it's known. I think it would bring down the crime rate alot more. It would scare people into not doing TOO much crime. It'd make people THINK before doing such stupid, irresponsible things like murder.
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