Gay marriages/adoption.
Okay, this started in my trait of though about ... 10 minutes ago whilst i was watching the news..
There had been a report on how 2 gay men had adopted a child. That started conversation between me and my mum. It kind of went like this;
Me: "I think gay people should be allowed to adopt, if this world is full of equal-ness then they should be treated like straight people."
Mum: "But they shouldn't be allowed to adopt, because heterosexual partners may not be able to naturaly have kids, so they rely on adoption, if gay people want kids, there's surrogacy."
Me: "Mum, it doesn't matter if we're gay or straight, if heterosexual people want kids sooo badly, they can also turn to surrogacy, your being a homophobe, They should be allowed to get married too."
Mum: "No. I'm not being a homophobe, im just saying gay peo--.."
Me: "No, you ARE being a homophobe mum, because gay people should be allowed to adopt and get married, your being discriminitive against them."
Mum: "But when an overweight person tries to adopt, they say no because they 'couldnt care for a baby.'"
Me: "well, that's also discriminitive..."
It kinda went on from there, back and fowards, but i do really think gay people should have equal rights to straight people. If our government says they want everyone to be treated equally, then our bastard of a PM should change the laws.
There had been a report on how 2 gay men had adopted a child. That started conversation between me and my mum. It kind of went like this;
Me: "I think gay people should be allowed to adopt, if this world is full of equal-ness then they should be treated like straight people."
Mum: "But they shouldn't be allowed to adopt, because heterosexual partners may not be able to naturaly have kids, so they rely on adoption, if gay people want kids, there's surrogacy."
Me: "Mum, it doesn't matter if we're gay or straight, if heterosexual people want kids sooo badly, they can also turn to surrogacy, your being a homophobe, They should be allowed to get married too."
Mum: "No. I'm not being a homophobe, im just saying gay peo--.."
Me: "No, you ARE being a homophobe mum, because gay people should be allowed to adopt and get married, your being discriminitive against them."
Mum: "But when an overweight person tries to adopt, they say no because they 'couldnt care for a baby.'"
Me: "well, that's also discriminitive..."
It kinda went on from there, back and fowards, but i do really think gay people should have equal rights to straight people. If our government says they want everyone to be treated equally, then our bastard of a PM should change the laws.
I think everyone should be able to adot who is capable. No matter what, if they're not fit to be a parent than they shouldn't. No matter what sexual orrentation they are. Same vise versa with being able to adopt. =]
just_call_me_dookie, June 18th, 2007 at 11:33:33pm
I firmly believe for a child to be raised properly in a healthy home, there needs to be a father figure, and a mother figure. A lot of us on here knows what it is like to be without one of those people and it causes problems later in life. If there are two gay men with a child, there is no mother for that child. You can't replace a women with a man. Vice versa with lesbians.
Second point: Your mother wasn't being homophobic in anyway. No where in that conversation did she say she hated gays. And if you ask me, it was rude of you to interrupt her. Trying listening to her side of the story instead of butting in with your opinions.
Third point: If everyone was completely equal, no one would be equal. This is not a world of equal-ness. Nor should it become one. Where would all the diversity go?
southernidiot, June 15th, 2007 at 12:16:26am
Yeah, i agree but if they are like ... a heavily overweight something should be put in place for that ... But if they are able to keep up with little kids, whos to say they shouldnt be allowed to adopt?
But that kinda ties in with gay adopting. If a person is to overweight to adopt, what about a person having 2 mums or 2 dads? I know i said before it shouldn't matter, but what if that person could keep up with a child?
Tre Cool Junkeh, June 14th, 2007 at 08:52:24pm
Not allowing a severly overweight person to not adopt isn't be discriminatory. Its looking out for the well being of the child. Their weight hinders their ability to provide proper care and the child would be in danger.
Kurtni, June 14th, 2007 at 10:43:58am
"ur side has a much stronger point. gays r ppl 2"
Please. before you speak on here again, Learn english and make sense.
Gays should have the EXACT same rights as straight people. Who's to say that a child can't grow up with 2 mums or 2 dads. Whether you have a mum and dad, 2 mums, or 2 dads, it shouldnt change the way your raised.
If they want a child, they should be allowed one, it shouldnt matter because they have a couple that's the same sex.
Tre Cool Junkeh, June 14th, 2007 at 06:41:49am
I see where she's coming from, but I dont think your mother is aware that there are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more orphans in the world then sterile couples.
They will definitely not run out if they share with homosexual couples. :]
Hello, My Name Is Asshole, June 13th, 2007 at 05:12:29pm
ur side has a much stronger point. gays r ppl 2
tre4prez08, June 13th, 2007 at 03:30:50pm
i think if there's a couple & they are fit to be parents, they should be allowed to be parents.
who's to say that a gay couple isn't a fit couple to raise kids?
no matter what your sexuality is, if there's a home for a child that needs a home..
i think that child should get whatever good home that is availible.
i could go on & on about this, but i have to leave.
moop, June 13th, 2007 at 01:16:47pm
Thats so f*cked up. My mum agrees though. She says gay people shouldnt marry because it devalues the Sanctity of Marriage (were christian) and I said many gay couples are more into their vows and dont divorce, its everyone equally to blame for divorce culture and she said hmmm. She says gays live promicious lives. I hate her, she never has facts, just pure opinion. I know I make snap desicions about myself, but I need facts to make decisions about others. I just hope I meet the girl of my dreams (as opposed to guy of my dreams) and show her anally retentive self that love can work, no matter who it is between.
Mummy-Daughter love should be strong by her ideas, LIKE f*ck!
Lyddy r teh Snaily, June 13th, 2007 at 08:40:26am
exactly.
and stef, no, either do i. he's had his run.
Tre Cool Junkeh, June 13th, 2007 at 07:17:09am
i think that ANY person with enough brains to be to look after a child should be able to,it dosent matter if they straight,gay,black,white,pink with yellow spots,disabled,etc
there is the point of they may get bulled when they older but then again dont we all?!
rhcpnat, June 13th, 2007 at 07:04:30am
I personally don't seen good ol' Johnny being in office much longer.
Stef., June 13th, 2007 at 06:54:51am