To Clear Some Things Up
I'm sick to death of people going on and on about how Green Day isn't 'punk'.
Let's get some things straight:
+Green Day grew up in that scene, and I can guarantee the majority of us on GSB haven't.
+One thing I'm sure we can all agree on is that punk is supposedly about not following the crowd, thinking outside the box, not following the rules, and staying true to yourself. Right? Right. Well, I think the fact that there are rules/guidelines to the whole being considered 'punk' thing is a bit hypocritical.
But hey- if that whole doing your own thing and what YOU want to do as opposed to what's expected of you is one of said rules/guidelines, that would, in fact, make Green Day 'punk'. They've always done what they wanted, made their music the way THEY wanted, and just because it's DIFFERENT from what past punk bands sounded like, doesn't mean it isn't punk. In fact, that would technically MAKE it punk, would it not? Deal with it.
And as for Green Day's new album taking so long:
A.) They're only human, they DO need breaks sometimes, and who are WE to say how long of a break they may or may not need? We'll get the album when they're good and ready for it to be released.
B.) They won't release something that they consider to be mediocre, if they don't think it's the best they can do, they won't release it. Why do you think they decided to scrap Cigarettes and Valentines after it was stolen in lue of writing an entirely new album?
C.) Inspiration. If they don't have any; they can't make music. Sometimes it takes time to be inspired.
D.) They're an incredible band, and just because some impatient people don't think the album will be worth the wait- that doesn't matter, because Green Day WILL find it worth it, as well many of their other fans.
E.) They experiment with their sound, always have, just because they said they had some songs that may sound Clash-like doesn't mean they're being unoriginal, it's JUST a comparison to give an idea. And those songs might not even MAKE it to the new album. Get over it.
Let's get some things straight:
+Green Day grew up in that scene, and I can guarantee the majority of us on GSB haven't.
+One thing I'm sure we can all agree on is that punk is supposedly about not following the crowd, thinking outside the box, not following the rules, and staying true to yourself. Right? Right. Well, I think the fact that there are rules/guidelines to the whole being considered 'punk' thing is a bit hypocritical.
But hey- if that whole doing your own thing and what YOU want to do as opposed to what's expected of you is one of said rules/guidelines, that would, in fact, make Green Day 'punk'. They've always done what they wanted, made their music the way THEY wanted, and just because it's DIFFERENT from what past punk bands sounded like, doesn't mean it isn't punk. In fact, that would technically MAKE it punk, would it not? Deal with it.
And as for Green Day's new album taking so long:
A.) They're only human, they DO need breaks sometimes, and who are WE to say how long of a break they may or may not need? We'll get the album when they're good and ready for it to be released.
B.) They won't release something that they consider to be mediocre, if they don't think it's the best they can do, they won't release it. Why do you think they decided to scrap Cigarettes and Valentines after it was stolen in lue of writing an entirely new album?
C.) Inspiration. If they don't have any; they can't make music. Sometimes it takes time to be inspired.
D.) They're an incredible band, and just because some impatient people don't think the album will be worth the wait- that doesn't matter, because Green Day WILL find it worth it, as well many of their other fans.
E.) They experiment with their sound, always have, just because they said they had some songs that may sound Clash-like doesn't mean they're being unoriginal, it's JUST a comparison to give an idea. And those songs might not even MAKE it to the new album. Get over it.
I'm not shooting anyone down. Who in the hell have I shot down? All I've done is express my own personal opinions on the subject and the facts. Nothing I've said has been even remotely untrue or insulting.
Would you LIKE me to be insulting? Because, you know, I can.
Teenage.Assassin, February 12th, 2007 at 07:15:28pm
no what i'm saying is that you shouldn't just shoot people down. I'm not trying to argue with you
*Green_girl*, February 12th, 2007 at 07:13:59pm
I'm hearing people's opinions, and disagreeing with them.
I never said that you were saying you were right.
Why do you think I posted this? Really. Because I DISAGREED with what people were saying. This is MY opinion on the subject. Just because you have a differing opinion from mine doesn't mean I have to agree with you, and it certainly doesn't mean I'm not going to respond to it with my own.
Teenage.Assassin, February 12th, 2007 at 07:12:50pm
ok but remember i did say i wasnt saying i was right, thats just how i feel.
you have to open to hear everyones feelings on the topic not just your own ok?
*Green_girl*, February 12th, 2007 at 07:10:39pm
I'm not getting grumpy with you. They aren't going for what's popular.
Before they started talking about it, it was unpopular. Anyone remember when the Dixie Chicks talked about it? They had their albums burned, they got ridiculed, radio stations wouldn't play them. Green Day took a HUGE risk in releasing American Idiot. They've said themselves they were scared, they never knew it would be as massive as it was. So...going for what's popular? I think not.
Teenage.Assassin, February 12th, 2007 at 07:08:43pm
I'm a sell-out.
wait_what, February 12th, 2007 at 07:07:36pm
i just think they are going for what popular now but thats just what i feel, don't need to get grumpy at me, i'm not saying i'm right but i mean who knows whos right???
*Green_girl*, February 12th, 2007 at 07:07:03pm
*worships you*
Steph:DonaNobisPacem, February 12th, 2007 at 07:06:21pm
Amen.
This blog kinda makes you think, too. Nice job, dude.
nimrodidiot, February 12th, 2007 at 07:06:19pm
And how have they sold out, hm?
They're still writing about what THEY want to write about. Things THEY care about. They aren't kids anymore. The world has changed. They've grown up. They're in their mid-thirties now. Do you honestly expect them to write about drugs and masturbation forever?
They write about what matters to them, things they care about, whatever they're feeling, and that's what they did with American Idiot. If growing up is selling out, I guess every single person in the world will be a sell-out.
Teenage.Assassin, February 12th, 2007 at 07:05:46pm
And they could also be trying to decide which songs are the best of the best.
I have 36 pages worth of poems, and I want to submit some to some contests, but I just don't want to submit any old poem... It HAS to be good, and polished up a bit...
I imagine that's how Green Day is with their songs.
wait_what, February 12th, 2007 at 07:03:44pm
i think their new music as apossed to thier old isn't as good and is kind of sell out but i agree with you still, and i don't care how long the cd takes i mean i'd rather it take forever and its awesome than it take like 6 months and its poos =]
i deffinantly (sp?) think their old music is totally them and i guess your right in saying thats punk im not entirely sure bout their new stuff but i love them all the same =]
*Green_girl*, February 12th, 2007 at 07:03:41pm
Because maybe they don't consider those songs to be the best they could do. Maybe they want the album to be perfect in their eyes. It doesn't matter how much new material they have, if they don't consider it up to their standards, it won't be released.
Teenage.Assassin, February 12th, 2007 at 07:02:02pm
I got nothing to say about the punk thing.
The wait? Hmm, yeah, it's kind of pissing me off. Billie's said that they've got enough songs to make three CDs. If they have that many, why wait? I mean, I'll wait as long as I have to, but still...
Scotty Doesn't Know., February 12th, 2007 at 07:00:51pm
You know what? AFI is more punk than Green Day.
Suck on that! Haha.
Okay... seriously though... I totally agree.
wait_what, February 12th, 2007 at 06:59:18pm