Suicide and self harm!

I haven't cut in 6 months

Voodoo Hussy:

I haven't cut in 6 months

awesome good for you!

IKnowTheEnemy:

woah this is ironic... attacking people personally on the internet is one cause of self harm and depression...

And then it isn't the internet or the person behind the remark that is the cause, it is the effect it has on the person.

Suicide and self harm are difficult subjects to deal with and have a limited place on the internet and on threads and forums like these.
people who suffer from it should talk to people in there surroundings, family, teachers, friends or maby a therapist.

I have no oppinion about self-harm in that sence that there are mutiple reasons for it and that at all levels people should realize that is most of the time not the solution.

interesting (ish) question: how do you decide which actions can be classed as self harm and which cannot? do you consider self harm to be any action that someone performs which physically harms them, or is it only really self harm when someone performs an action with the intent to harm themselves? how do you decide what is and isn't self harm?

also, does self harm have to be physical or immediate? do you think there are any other ways to harm oneself, besides the obvious?

these questions aren't aimed at anyone, i just think they are interesting topics to discuss. so please do! i want to know what people think.

tangerine:

interesting (ish) question: how do you decide which actions can be classed as self harm and which cannot? do you consider self harm to be any action that someone performs which physically harms them, or is it only really self harm when someone performs an action with the intent to harm themselves? how do you decide what is and isn't self harm?

also, does self harm have to be physical or immediate? do you think there are any other ways to harm oneself, besides the obvious?

these questions aren't aimed at anyone, i just think they are interesting topics to discuss. so please do! i want to know what people think.

well, i believe that self-harm is whne someone is fully aware and hurt themselves intentionally. like not paying enough attention while chopping carrots VS making sure your figure is in harm's way while cutting the carrots.

dictionary.com defines self-harm as "the practice of cutting or otherwise wounding oneself, usually considered as indicating psychological disturbance", but i think they focus too much on the cutting part. self-harm includes pulling your own hair out, pinching yourself, scratching yourself, burning yourself, etc. cutting is just the most popular form of self-harm.

i also believe that throwing yourself in front of an incoming punch or car, or what have you is also classified as self-harm.

Y'know Gerard Way:

tangerine:

interesting (ish) question: how do you decide which actions can be classed as self harm and which cannot? do you consider self harm to be any action that someone performs which physically harms them, or is it only really self harm when someone performs an action with the intent to harm themselves? how do you decide what is and isn't self harm?

also, does self harm have to be physical or immediate? do you think there are any other ways to harm oneself, besides the obvious?

these questions aren't aimed at anyone, i just think they are interesting topics to discuss. so please do! i want to know what people think.

well, i believe that self-harm is whne someone is fully aware and hurt themselves intentionally. like not paying enough attention while chopping carrots VS making sure your figure is in harm's way while cutting the carrots.

dictionary.com defines self-harm as "the practice of cutting or otherwise wounding oneself, usually considered as indicating psychological disturbance", but i think they focus too much on the cutting part. self-harm includes pulling your own hair out, pinching yourself, scratching yourself, burning yourself, etc. cutting is just the most popular form of self-harm.

i also believe that throwing yourself in front of an incoming punch or car, or what have you is also classified as self-harm.

yeah, in my opinion, self harm is intentional.

sometimes, though, people hurt themselves.. not like in a "i want to make myself bleed" -way, but.. idk subconsciously?
I guess it's also self harm if you keep putting yourself in a situation where you know (subconsciously or consciously) you'll get hurt, or y'know, it's preditable that it won't end well, be it mentally or physical.

it's an interesting question. i think most people view self harm as intentionally hurting yourself physically.

i mean, i bite the skin off my fingers, next to my nails - it's got a name (Dermatillomania - more specifically dermatophagia), and apparently it's linked to ocd. it hurts, but i'm not doing it to punish myself. it's a thing i do when i'm concentrating, bored, anxious... it's like biting nails - to me anyway, but since it does hurt me, and i sometimes bleed, i guess it could be seen as self-harm, since it's also apparently linked to OCD, and compared to trichotillomania, where you pull out your hair

ocean avenue:

Y'know Gerard Way:

tangerine:

interesting (ish) question: how do you decide which actions can be classed as self harm and which cannot? do you consider self harm to be any action that someone performs which physically harms them, or is it only really self harm when someone performs an action with the intent to harm themselves? how do you decide what is and isn't self harm?

also, does self harm have to be physical or immediate? do you think there are any other ways to harm oneself, besides the obvious?

these questions aren't aimed at anyone, i just think they are interesting topics to discuss. so please do! i want to know what people think.

well, i believe that self-harm is whne someone is fully aware and hurt themselves intentionally. like not paying enough attention while chopping carrots VS making sure your figure is in harm's way while cutting the carrots.

dictionary.com defines self-harm as "the practice of cutting or otherwise wounding oneself, usually considered as indicating psychological disturbance", but i think they focus too much on the cutting part. self-harm includes pulling your own hair out, pinching yourself, scratching yourself, burning yourself, etc. cutting is just the most popular form of self-harm.

i also believe that throwing yourself in front of an incoming punch or car, or what have you is also classified as self-harm.

yeah, in my opinion, self harm is intentional.

sometimes, though, people hurt themselves.. not like in a "i want to make myself bleed" -way, but.. idk subconsciously?
I guess it's also self harm if you keep putting yourself in a situation where you know (subconsciously or consciously) you'll get hurt, or y'know, it's preditable that it won't end well, be it mentally or physical.

it's an interesting question. i think most people view self harm as intentionally hurting yourself physically.

i mean, i bite the skin off my fingers, next to my nails - it's got a name (Dermatillomania - more specifically dermatophagia), and apparently it's linked to ocd. it hurts, but i'm not doing it to punish myself. it's a thing i do when i'm concentrating, bored, anxious... it's like biting nails - to me anyway, but since it does hurt me, and i sometimes bleed, i guess it could be seen as self-harm, since it's also apparently linked to OCD, and compared to trichotillomania, where you pull out your hair

so basically the person has to have their mindset on actually harming themselves and not just focusing on some habbit like biting their nails?

Y'know Gerard Way:

so basically the person has to have their mindset on actually harming themselves and not just focusing on some habbit like biting their nails?

well.. yeah, i guess. but as i said, it could also be that they put themselves in a situation where it's predictable that they'll get hurt, even if they don't mean to consciously put themselves in that situation.
like, if they keep going to places where they might be pressured into taking drugs or doing stupid things (idk, jackass-impersonations or what do i know). it's not that they mean to hurt themselves, but they do, and it's predictable.
idk if that makes sense...

ocean avenue:

Y'know Gerard Way:

so basically the person has to have their mindset on actually harming themselves and not just focusing on some habbit like biting their nails?

well.. yeah, i guess. but as i said, it could also be that they put themselves in a situation where it's predictable that they'll get hurt, even if they don't mean to consciously put themselves in that situation.
like, if they keep going to places where they might be pressured into taking drugs or doing stupid things (idk, jackass-impersonations or what do i know). it's not that they mean to hurt themselves, but they do, and it's predictable.
idk if that makes sense...

makes perfect sense. like saying someone saw a punch coming towards their friend, and jumps in the way to receive the punch not to save their friend from pain, but to seize the opportunity to harm themselves.

there's actually a really good book i read about a guy who started self-harming, doing drugs, drinking, etc. cause his sister commited suicide. it's called 'The Perfect Cut' by Julie Burtinshaw. i totally recommend it to everyone. it's very insightful towards this topic of self-injuring and suicide and it's effects/consequences

Y'know Gerard Way:

ocean avenue:

Y'know Gerard Way:

so basically the person has to have their mindset on actually harming themselves and not just focusing on some habbit like biting their nails?

well.. yeah, i guess. but as i said, it could also be that they put themselves in a situation where it's predictable that they'll get hurt, even if they don't mean to consciously put themselves in that situation.
like, if they keep going to places where they might be pressured into taking drugs or doing stupid things (idk, jackass-impersonations or what do i know). it's not that they mean to hurt themselves, but they do, and it's predictable.
idk if that makes sense...

makes perfect sense. like saying someone saw a punch coming towards their friend, and jumps in the way to receive the punch not to save their friend from pain, but to seize the opportunity to harm themselves.

yeah something like that

tangerine:

interesting (ish) question: how do you decide which actions can be classed as self harm and which cannot? do you consider self harm to be any action that someone performs which physically harms them, or is it only really self harm when someone performs an action with the intent to harm themselves? how do you decide what is and isn't self harm?

also, does self harm have to be physical or immediate? do you think there are any other ways to harm oneself, besides the obvious?

these questions aren't aimed at anyone, i just think they are interesting topics to discuss. so please do! i want to know what people think.

I'd say anything done with the intent to purposely or knowingly hurt yourself could be considered as "self harm".

I don't think it needs to be physical or immediate, despite the fact that those forms are always the first to come to mind. Technically speaking, drug use could be considered a form of "self harm", as well as surrounding yourself with people who degrade you all the time, starving yourself, etc.