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August 5th, 2005 at 05:41am
Almost 50 years ago, on August 6th 1945 at approximately 8:15 am, a nuclear bomb was dropped on the city of Hiroshima in an effort to end World War II. The blast radius circled the globe three times.

Three days later, a second bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki. Japan surrendered and the United States triumphed. But, as the 50th anniversaiy comes up tommorow, there question remains...were the bombs necessary? Was the death of approximately 1 million entirely necessary?
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August 5th, 2005 at 06:40am
i'm not going to pretend to have all of the answers, but in my opinion, one million people, most of them innocent citizens, can never be justified no matter how "necessary". there has to be another way. whether through negotiation or continued fighting with the people who SIGNED UP TO FIGHT, the war would have ended. japan was hardly winning, they just weren't completely backing down.
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August 5th, 2005 at 06:42am
firstly... it was more like... 300,000 that died in total not 1 million. Search it up. And i personally think it was right. i'd rather have 300,000 people die then then take a chance to have the war continued maybe killing even MORE people. Thats just my opinion though.... disagree if you want.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:03am
Ipod:
firstly... it was more like... 300,000 that died in total not 1 million. Search it up. And i personally think it was right. i'd rather have 300,000 people die then then take a chance to have the war continued maybe killing even MORE people. Thats just my opinion though.... disagree if you want.
300,000 people died from the blast. Over a million died from radiation diesease. Search it up.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:08am
Anji:
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firstly... it was more like... 300,000 that died in total not 1 million. Search it up. And i personally think it was right. i'd rather have 300,000 people die then then take a chance to have the war continued maybe killing even MORE people. Thats just my opinion though.... disagree if you want.
300,000 people died from the blast. Over a million died from radiation diesease.


I still think they should have done it....if the war continued more could have been killed anyway.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:26am
I think many lives could have easily been saved had both countrues agreed to negotiate with each other peacefully.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:39am
Mm... i doubt that would have happened anyway...i mean there's still hitler to think about...mm...
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August 5th, 2005 at 11:46am
radiation sickness, aka leukemia, is a slow and painful way to die. imagine if there was still no such thing as nuclear weapons...would iraq have happened? even if the war had continued because there was no hiroshima and nagasaki bombings, we might have been able to prevent other wars by simply not having nukes...i mean, do we really have a true NEED for a weapon that destructive? i think not.
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August 5th, 2005 at 12:33pm
yes, it was necessary, the Japenese cared so much about pride and honour they would not have surrendered unless something really shocking was done first. Also, if the war carried on then just as many people could have been killed.
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August 5th, 2005 at 12:41pm
but so many wars have ravaged the earth thereafter because of nukes. the earth is crying for us...cant you feel it?
i can see that this is going to be another topic where everyone is arguing against me...but before everyone gets pissed off...
understand that all i want is peace. thats it. i want to see people looking out for each other, not because their religion says they should, not because there is a camera in their face. i want people to care about others because THEY KNOW that its right. someone falls down, you help them back up, no questions asked. war seems to me to be exactlythe opposite of that. maybe now you understand me better...
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August 5th, 2005 at 12:57pm
there was a tv reanactment show on about hirsohima but i missed it i did see some parts some of the ppl who actually bombed the place were alive and talking about the process they had to go throught and all
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August 5th, 2005 at 01:30pm
I've used this plenty of times to tell people the war in Iraq isn't that bad
and it wasn't neccesary, but on 9/11 there was a famous Japanaes journalist, who was referring back to his memories of WWII, and wrote , "they have awoken a sleeping giant"

it wasn't neccessary, but, again, we were attacked out of the blue, and we made sure they'd never do it again, so it saved us future wars with that country

"you'd think that once Osama attacked the World Trade Centers Japan would call him up and say, 'you stuuuupid! you know have History Chanel? once we attack America, we send hundred bomb at them, went back and partied, but then, they no drop hundred bomb, they no drop thousand bomb, they drop....two bomb!" - Carlos Mencia

and I think that's very true, it's being a bully, it's flexing muscle, saying "we can kick your ass, wipe out yout entire population, don't mess with us"

like we have a "Beware of Dog" sign on our fence, if the other countries can't respect that, and hop the fence, who's to say we're wrong for not specifying the sign wasn't bullshitting?
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August 5th, 2005 at 01:35pm
*sigh* its still not right...start a war over shit like that...or anything for that matter...

ugh...fuck it...imma get ready for work...
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August 5th, 2005 at 05:45pm
well,

imagine yourself in eisenhowers position.

you cant just negotiote things with the japanese, considering they way their governemtn worked.

you cant just keep the war going, and let who knows how many more people die.

and you cant just nuke japan, and get it all over with. hes the president, and its his job to protect his country at all costs, and the nuke fit that description, and any choice would have been horrible, nasty. he just had to chose, and thats what he did. no matter what he wouldve done, someone wouldve got pissed, and started a thread just like this. its how politics works.
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August 5th, 2005 at 05:46pm
zdf_jammin:
well,

imagine yourself in eisenhowers position.

you cant just negotiote things with the japanese, considering they way their governemtn worked.

you cant just keep the war going, and let who knows how many more people die.

and you cant just nuke japan, and get it all over with. hes the president, and its his job to protect his country at all costs, and the nuke fit that description, and any choice would have been horrible, nasty. he just had to chose, and thats what he did. no matter what he wouldve done, someone wouldve got pissed, and started a thread just like this. its how politics works.


the whole 'lesser of two evils' its never an easy choice but you've got to choose the one that works best.
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August 5th, 2005 at 06:44pm
I don't think its fair that so many innocent lives were lost. Sad
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August 5th, 2005 at 06:58pm
eberneezer_egghead:
I don't think its fair that so many innocent lives were lost. Sad
Too many innocent lives in my opinion.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:02pm
Ipod:
Mm... i doubt that would have happened anyway...i mean there's still hitler to think about...mm...


correct me if i'm wrong but these bombs were dropped post victory in europe day, am i right?
so no, there was no hitler to think about.
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August 5th, 2005 at 07:03pm
Dom:
yes, it was necessary, the Japenese cared so much about pride and honour they would not have surrendered unless something really shocking was done first. Also, if the war carried on then just as many people could have been killed.


i've always wondered...wasn't the shock effect kind of in place after the first one? why two? why so many more innocent lives if all we wanted was something "really shocking"?
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August 6th, 2005 at 08:41am
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Dom:
yes, it was necessary, the Japenese cared so much about pride and honour they would not have surrendered unless something really shocking was done first. Also, if the war carried on then just as many people could have been killed.


i've always wondered...wasn't the shock effect kind of in place after the first one? why two? why so many more innocent lives if all we wanted was something "really shocking"?


well, if they had have surrendered after the first bomb had been dropped, then im guessing the second one wouldn't have been.
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