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Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | December 5th, 2005 at 05:12am I just heard on the radio that, homosexual couples will be able to marry in this country legally, and have the same rights as hetrosexual couples, and that they will be able to adopt children, do you all think this is right, i think that they should be able to marry but however i dont think that a same sex couple should be able to adopt children, i know that there are curcumstances like people getting married and then having children and deciding that they are homosexual, then i think that the children should stay with the better perant, i know this can be an emotive subject but i just wandered what you all thought of it.
A famous gay guy ( have forgoten his name) was on a TV program and he was asked would you ever adopt a child and he replied "no because i have chosen to live my life in a same sex relationship and i feel that, that isnt the best for a child"
Is he right or is he wrong??  |
mikeluvva
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Posts: 484 | December 5th, 2005 at 10:31am i dont mind same sex marriages cus i went to one on 16th november and it was wicked and the after party was better too |
Matt Smith
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  | December 5th, 2005 at 11:27am Homosexuals are no different that anyone else.
They look the same, they act the same, they are exactly the same as heterosexuals, in every respect bar one. Yet they are still treated differently.
Of course they should have the right to adopt children, to be married, to do everything a heterosexual couple can do. |
NeoSteph
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| December 5th, 2005 at 11:50am I think it's great, but it's not marriage. It's been named a ceremonial partnership contract, they get the same contract rights as same sex couples, but they are still not allowed to marry in a church, also there's something strange about the divorce proceddings they would have to take. |
NeoSteph
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| December 5th, 2005 at 11:57am NeoSteph:NeoSteph:I think it's great, but it's not marriage. It's been named a ceremonial partnership contract, they get the same contract rights as same sex couples, but they are still not allowed to marry in a church, also there's something strange about the divorce proceddings they would have to take.
Also the law is going to fail on the basis that because it's not a legal marriage, it's basically saying if you sign this contract you are allowed to share certain investments, well that contract discriminates against same sex partners who live together but don't want to sign a binding contract. |
Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | December 5th, 2005 at 12:25pm Bloodraine:Homosexuals are no different that anyone else.
They look the same, they act the same, they are exactly the same as heterosexuals, in every respect bar one. Yet they are still treated differently.
Of course they should have the right to adopt children, to be married, to do everything a heterosexual couple can do.
i am trying to get my head around this so excuse me if i come over all dumb because i'm not.
Surely the best thing for a child is that they are bought up in a home with a mum and dad, if there were two guys living together which one would be the mum and which one would be the dad, and vise versa, becuase there is only a certain amount of things that a girl can learn from a man and there are only a certain amount of things that a boy can learn from a woman. Because i know that there are certain things my daughter can only talk to me about and without me who would she go to? And likewise there are certain things that my son can only talk to his dad about. |
Matt Smith
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| December 5th, 2005 at 12:31pm tre_cool_is_god:Bloodraine:Homosexuals are no different that anyone else.
They look the same, they act the same, they are exactly the same as heterosexuals, in every respect bar one. Yet they are still treated differently.
Of course they should have the right to adopt children, to be married, to do everything a heterosexual couple can do.
i am trying to get my head around this so excuse me if i come over all dumb because i'm not.
Surely the best thing for a child is that they are bought up in a home with a mum and dad, if there were two guys living together which one would be the mum and which one would be the dad, and vise versa, becuase there is only a certain amount of things that a girl can learn from a man and there are only a certain amount of things that a boy can learn from a woman. Because i know that there are certain things my daughter can only talk to me about and without me who would she go to? And likewise there are certain things that my son can only talk to his dad about.
If you followed that logic then how would you apply it to the children who have lost one of their parents?. Or, indeed, children who are being raised by a solitary parent?. I know a fair few myself and they seem to get along.
Sure, having heterosexual parents does give a balanced equation. But just because having two parents of the same sex doesn't conform to this formula, who's to say they wont be just as loving and caring? |
Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | December 5th, 2005 at 12:41pm Bloodraine:tre_cool_is_god:Bloodraine:Homosexuals are no different that anyone else.
They look the same, they act the same, they are exactly the same as heterosexuals, in every respect bar one. Yet they are still treated differently.
Of course they should have the right to adopt children, to be married, to do everything a heterosexual couple can do.
i am trying to get my head around this so excuse me if i come over all dumb because i'm not.
Surely the best thing for a child is that they are bought up in a home with a mum and dad, if there were two guys living together which one would be the mum and which one would be the dad, and vise versa, becuase there is only a certain amount of things that a girl can learn from a man and there are only a certain amount of things that a boy can learn from a woman. Because i know that there are certain things my daughter can only talk to me about and without me who would she go to? And likewise there are certain things that my son can only talk to his dad about.
If you followed that logic then how would you apply it to the children who have lost one of their parents?. Or, indeed, children who are being raised by a solitary parent?. I know a fair few myself and they seem to get along.
Sure, having heterosexual parents does give a balanced equation. But just because having two parents of the same sex doesn't conform to this formula, who's to say they wont be just as loving and caring?
The children who have lost one of they're parents have somehere along the line had 2 perants so they have had a certain amount of fatherly and motherely adivce and guidance, i know there are men and indeed women who walk out when the children are very young, and there are mothers who decided that they will have children but not a partner and i find that discgraceful aswell, (but that is a differant story) And yeah same sex relationships can be loving, but children need a mum and a dad, not two dads and not two mums, (like i said before if you get married have kids then decide that its not for you and you decide to live your life with a same sex partner then the children should go with the most suitable partner be it the dad or mum).
But picture this a young girl comes home to her two dads and she has started her periods and she is incredibly shy who does she go to? |
Matt Smith
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| December 5th, 2005 at 12:42pm Her Grandmother? Or failing that an aunt or older cousin? |
Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | December 5th, 2005 at 12:45pm Bloodraine:Her Grandmother? Or failing that an aunt or older cousin?
Still not a perant. Girls need a mum and boys need a dad. |
Matt Smith
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| December 5th, 2005 at 12:49pm tre_cool_is_god:Bloodraine:Her Grandmother? Or failing that an aunt or older cousin?
Still not a perant. Girls need a mum and boys need a dad.
From personal experience, the first person I told when i started was neither my mother or father. It happened to be my Grandmother. Just because she wasnt a parent doesnt mean I couldnt trust her or turn to her for help.
You say that Girls need a mum and boys need a dad, well I disagree. It may not be an ideal situation, but it shouldn't stop homosexuals having kids. |
darkmagick1002
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Posts: 456 | December 5th, 2005 at 02:14pm Bloodraine:tre_cool_is_god:Bloodraine:Her Grandmother? Or failing that an aunt or older cousin?
Still not a perant. Girls need a mum and boys need a dad.
From personal experience, the first person I told when i started was neither my mother or father. It happened to be my Grandmother. Just because she wasnt a parent doesnt mean I couldnt trust her or turn to her for help.
You say that Girls need a mum and boys need a dad, well I disagree. It may not be an ideal situation, but it shouldn't stop homosexuals having kids.
i agree with bloodraine....many kids grow up in foster homes to live bad lives, the homosexuals who do want to have kids can now and it helps out those kids who want parents. believe me most kids who are in foster homes don't really care what house they go in to because they'll have someone there that loves them and cares enough about them to take them into their own home even though they don't have to. so you don't need one dad and one mom....you need two parents....gender doesn't matter |
Nine_Inch_Nails
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Posts: 8334 | December 5th, 2005 at 02:34pm Hmm. It depends.
I don't have a problem with them getting actually married, but to do it in a Church, is that not going against God?
Contradict me if I'm wrong of course. |
Matt Smith
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| December 5th, 2005 at 02:43pm Nine_Inch_Nails:Hmm. It depends.
I don't have a problem with them getting actually married, but to do it in a Church, is that not going against God?
Contradict me if I'm wrong of course.
Are you talking about the Catholic church? If so, It is more likely that the preist will refuse the couple to marry in his church. And how many of them would want to be married within a religion which so openly rejects homosexual activity? |
Possible247
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Posts: 644 | December 5th, 2005 at 02:49pm let them live there lifes however they want
they let us live our lifes however we want
they just chose a different path and who real is to say which path is right and which is wrong |
Nine_Inch_Nails
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Posts: 8334 | December 5th, 2005 at 02:51pm Bloodraine:Nine_Inch_Nails:Hmm. It depends.
I don't have a problem with them getting actually married, but to do it in a Church, is that not going against God?
Contradict me if I'm wrong of course.
Are you talking about the Catholic church? If so, It is more likely that the preist will refuse the couple to marry in his church. And how many of them would want to be married within a religion which so openly rejects homosexual activity?
I'm just talking about..Church.
And I know a few gays, and lots of them have expressed opinions of WANTING to get married in a Church. Gays can be Christian too, so it's obvious really that they'd want to get married in a Church. |
Matt Smith
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| December 5th, 2005 at 02:59pm Nine_Inch_Nails:Bloodraine:Nine_Inch_Nails:Hmm. It depends.
I don't have a problem with them getting actually married, but to do it in a Church, is that not going against God?
Contradict me if I'm wrong of course.
Are you talking about the Catholic church? If so, It is more likely that the preist will refuse the couple to marry in his church. And how many of them would want to be married within a religion which so openly rejects homosexual activity?
I'm just talking about..Church.
And I know a few gays, and lots of them have expressed opinions of WANTING to get married in a Church. Gays can be Christian too, so it's obvious really that they'd want to get married in a Church.
You need to be more specific. What denomination of christianity are they?
Quakers, Church of England and many liberal Protestants accept homosexuality, the Quakers would allow same-sex marriage on the basis that the relationship is to remain monogamous. There is a huge difference between the Catholic teachings on same sex marriage and the teachings of other christians.
I'm not saying that homosexuals can't be christian. I never even implied that. |
ColleenStarship
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Posts: 11991 | December 5th, 2005 at 03:04pm i don't mind just as long as they aren't hanging ALLLLL over each other in public. yeah that sounded mean but i can't figure out how i want to say what i mean lol |
Nine_Inch_Nails
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Posts: 8334 | December 5th, 2005 at 03:07pm Bloodraine:Nine_Inch_Nails:Bloodraine:Nine_Inch_Nails:Hmm. It depends.
I don't have a problem with them getting actually married, but to do it in a Church, is that not going against God?
Contradict me if I'm wrong of course.
Are you talking about the Catholic church? If so, It is more likely that the preist will refuse the couple to marry in his church. And how many of them would want to be married within a religion which so openly rejects homosexual activity?
I'm just talking about..Church.
And I know a few gays, and lots of them have expressed opinions of WANTING to get married in a Church. Gays can be Christian too, so it's obvious really that they'd want to get married in a Church.
You need to be more specific. What denomination of christianity are they?
Quakers, Church of England and many liberal Protestants accept homosexuality, the Quakers would allow same-sex marriage on the basis that the relationship is to remain monogamous. There is a huge difference between the Catholic teachings on same sex marriage and the teachings of other christians.
I'm not saying that homosexuals can't be christian. I never even implied that.
Umm
I can't say which one I mean, because they all follow different ones... |
Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | December 5th, 2005 at 03:49pm Possible247:let them live there lifes however they want
they let us live our lifes however we want
they just chose a different path and who real is to say which path is right and which is wrong
ah no they dont (well not all of them anyway) if i am walking down the street and there happeneds to be a homosexual person there and i call my mate a faggot just joking with each other and they hear me i can find myself in court and then i have to proove that i said it to my friend and not to the homosexual person. So some of them dont let us live our lifes the way we want. |
