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December 21st, 2005 at 05:03am
k i have now become fascinated by time travel. so...

do you think its possible? and if so would it be a good thing or a bad thing?

in my opinion i do think its possible to travel forward in time, through wormholes and space travel etc. but personally i dont think its at all possible to travel back in time, because as of now i have found no evidence that proves it is possible.
and i think travelling forward in time isnt such a bad thing, but one would have to be very careful with it considering [if my opinion is correct], they wouldnt be able to get back. but to travel back in time, if it was possible, i think would be incredibly dangerous and really should never be done because no matter what you do, no matter where you go, you will change something somehow that could alter the whole of history.
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December 21st, 2005 at 05:38am
I believe it is possible....I actually...believe it happens to people all the time unkowingly......in a sense.
like.......i have layed down trying to sleep......and it seems like an hour goes by in just a few seconds and i'm still awake. you know what i mean?? There are other little things like this that make it seem like we do time travel.
i think if we can purposely travel through time it will be good and bad.....depending on who is the one travelling...where they are going...what they are doign there. etc...
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December 21st, 2005 at 05:40am
ive always thought that travelling back in time is impossible, because if it was possible, and could be developed in the future, then wouldnt someone from the future have traveled back to our time and told us about it?

however, there are some who say that time is simply a creation of man, and that it cannot be stopped, because it is a natural, continuous thing. therefore it cannot be travelled backwards or forwards in.

but then you've got wormholes and everything, which just confuses it all.

who knows?
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December 21st, 2005 at 05:56am
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I believe it is possible....I actually...believe it happens to people all the time unkowingly......in a sense.
like.......i have layed down trying to sleep......and it seems like an hour goes by in just a few seconds and i'm still awake. you know what i mean?? There are other little things like this that make it seem like we do time travel.
i think if we can purposely travel through time it will be good and bad.....depending on who is the one travelling...where they are going...what they are doign there. etc...
yeah but i reckon when things like that happen, when time seems to be going fast... i dunno, i reckon thats from tiredness and just the way our brain functions in those conditions, making us think time has gone fast. or really we went to sleep but just didnt realise it.
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December 21st, 2005 at 09:50am
if time travel occured, then it wouldnt at the same time. by going back in time you would change the whole organisattion of time itself. but, as futurama shows in two episodes, what if you going back in time was meant to happen and ttime has already accounted for that.
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December 21st, 2005 at 11:03am
it's physically impossible. there isnt enough particles in the universe to make it happen.

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December 21st, 2005 at 06:55pm
Personally I think it's impossible no matter what. When you think about it, time, the one thing that no one can control. You can't see it, you can't touch it, you can't talk to it or anything. Before the universe there was time, or else there wouldn't be existance. Besides, if you really wanted to control time, just build a machine bigger then the universe and suck the universe in and change the clock, but wait, where would you be?!?!

I know that we can get close to stopping time by travelling at close to the speed of light. Einstein told me when I went back in time. Cool


I wonder what inside a black hole, maybe it's a way to travel in time.
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December 21st, 2005 at 08:40pm
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it's physically impossible. there isnt enough particles in the universe to make it happen.

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but if you travel in space, close to the speed of light, thats a form of travelling forward in time. time goes slower for the person in space, they could have been gone for 2 years and then, when they come back to earth, 200 years have passed.
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December 21st, 2005 at 09:56pm
I think science won't get there for a loooooooooooong time, but maybe certain people are able to do it with their own powers, you know. I don't mean magic, I mean just inborn qualities, like some people that can see the future or talk to ghosts...maybe some can travel in time, or will be able to if they learn and train themselves to do it.
Although I'm not sure it's such a great idea... Confused
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December 21st, 2005 at 10:14pm
I would love to say it's possible, but i know nothing of science so i wouldn't knwo what it takes.

But if it were possible it's dangerous to mess with the past because it would change the future maybe for the worse.
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December 21st, 2005 at 10:30pm
that_bass_line:
it's physically impossible. there isnt enough particles in the universe to make it happen.

[is a science geek]

well. we have 10 dimensions--9 space, one time.
probability says thats about right.
and then there's string theory, thats 3 dimensions of space and one dimension of time. does that change things? it condenses the space dimensions to those we can observe in nature. does it affect how we view time travel?
i dont know. will look into it though.
because i too am a science geek.
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December 21st, 2005 at 10:33pm
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that_bass_line:
it's physically impossible. there isnt enough particles in the universe to make it happen.

[is a science geek]

well. we have 10 dimensions--9 space, one time.
probability says thats about right.
and then there's string theory, thats 3 dimensions of space and one dimension of time. does that change things? it condenses the space dimensions to those we can observe in nature. does it affect how we view time travel?
i dont know. will look into it though.
because i too am a science geek.


reading that made my head hurt.......only science does that to me. Shocked and maybe maths aswell.....ok Ict also. Anything technical just goes whoosh.
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December 21st, 2005 at 11:19pm
paradoxical:
that_bass_line:
it's physically impossible. there isnt enough particles in the universe to make it happen.

[is a science geek]

well. we have 10 dimensions--9 space, one time.
probability says thats about right.
and then there's string theory, thats 3 dimensions of space and one dimension of time. does that change things? it condenses the space dimensions to those we can observe in nature. does it affect how we view time travel?
i dont know. will look into it though.
because i too am a science geek.


10 dimensions? i never knew there were that many. theres the thing with worm holes, which is largely to do with the different dimensions. theres a quote from the physicist Sagan which says that to get from one place/time to another, if they are so far apart that it would take more than a generational time, even going the speed of light to get from one to the other, so instead we must use a tunnel [wormhole] that goes through another dimension to get from one point to the other.
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December 21st, 2005 at 11:27pm
it's not possible. that idea makes just about as much sense as the christian religion.

first of all, the way we keep track of time is a man made creation and is therefore only "in line" with the earth because we decided it is. so there's no way that it would suddenly be like, 2500, unless we randomly decieded it was.

next, even if you went through some sort of portal or something, you wouldnt be in a different time, just a different place. your biological clock would still be the same, and therefore you would still be in the same time. everyone around you may think they're in the year 2042, but to you it's still 2005.

you can't go back and forth between times at the same place because to go into the future you'd have to skip over all sorts of things that are suppossed to happen. so therefore, even if you did get there, it wouldnt be what it would actually be if you were to actually live through all that time and get there.

and to go to the past you'd have to erase all the time that has happened after that. and you can't erase things that have happened to the earth, you can't resurrect the long past dead, and you couldn't re-live the exact same thing the exact same way.


that probably makes absolutley no sense. but i know what i'm getting at...
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December 22nd, 2005 at 12:43am
Spirit Of '77:
it's not possible. that idea makes just about as much sense as the christian religion.

in which case it makes sense to some but not others.

and still, even if you arrive in a world that you had not been in, thats still travelling through time.
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December 22nd, 2005 at 05:27am
everything Spirit Of '77 said made sense to me

it's true. in the process of travelling back in time, everything that's happened since the time the person 'arrives' at must be erased, at least for him, in order for it to be possible for him to be able to experience the past.

to travel forward... well, everything changes and ages with time. I don't see how it's possible for just one object, one person, to be excluded from that rule even for a small period of time. it just doesn't make sense for someone to travel 100 years forward, and arrive exactly the same, alive and well, without having aged or changed physically in any way. how do you get to a time/place that hasn't happened yet?

but let's say it's possible. it's very risky. travelling back in time, you could change a lot about your present and/or future (getting confused yet). it could be for better or for worse, but either way, it's very risky.

travelling forward in time might enable you to determine your future. which is good if you like to play on the safe side, but to me that's boring and predictable. it might not, I don't know the rules of time travel, it might just be a one-off experience for you to see how you might have turned out, what it would be like if you took a different path from there on, which would fun, I guess.

people have sworn it's happened, but I've yet to have a personal experience. until science guys a zillion times smarter than myself can prove/disprove it for sure, I will remain open-minded about this topic
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December 22nd, 2005 at 06:47am
but it is proven that, if one were to travel at or close to the speed of light they would age slower than those on earth. [this i have yet to research how and why this happens] but for them, if they could see the people on earth, ones life would flash before their eyes in an instant, from birth to death.

but, if someone was to travel forward in time, i dont believe they would be able to see how they turned out or what their life was like, because they wouldnt exist in that time, they would have left the world for what is years to the people on earth, and then, they would return, still young, but their friends and family all old and/or dead. and plus, if you could see your future self, and perhaps you werent happy with how you turned out, would it still be possible to go back again and change what you had done?
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December 22nd, 2005 at 12:02pm
if it were possible, we'd have the same problems as theyhad in "back to the future". you know, when the young mom falls in love with her time traveling son instead of his father and he has to make her fall in love with his father so that he and his siblings are still born and the entire future isn't fucked up.

or in the second one when the bad guy steals the time machine and goes back in time and changes one thing by giving himself a book and completely throws off the entire future making an alternate 1985.

the same problems would happen if time travel were ever really possible.

but it would be really confusing. because lets say you went back in time and killed your grandfather before your parent was born. most people would think that you wouldn't ever be born because your grandfather was killed, but in reality, you still would be born because since youwent back and killed your grandfather, you were never born to begin with and therefore you weren't there to go back in time and kill your grandfather, so your grandfather wouldn't get killed and things would go on as they were suppossed to.
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December 22nd, 2005 at 12:15pm
I'm no brilliant physicist or, indeed, much good at Physics at all, but I don't like the idea of time travel.

To me, time is a hugely powerful thing, and any attempt to reverse it or go against the natural flow of time would be insane. Everything happens for a reason (or so I think) and going back into the past risks endangering the future.

Time has been flowing at a constant rate (I think?) since the beginning of the universe. Long before humans evolved, anyway. To risk distorting this all powerful entity could cause everything we know to unravel.

Of course, like I have already said, I am no genius and I am probably spouting a pile of shit anyway, that just makes sense inside my head. So don't all jump on my back at once, please Wink.
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December 22nd, 2005 at 03:49pm
Spirit Of '77:
it's not possible. that idea makes just about as much sense as the christian religion.

first of all, the way we keep track of time is a man made creation and is therefore only "in line" with the earth because we decided it is. so there's no way that it would suddenly be like, 2500, unless we randomly decieded it was.

next, even if you went through some sort of portal or something, you wouldnt be in a different time, just a different place. your biological clock would still be the same, and therefore you would still be in the same time. everyone around you may think they're in the year 2042, but to you it's still 2005.

you can't go back and forth between times at the same place because to go into the future you'd have to skip over all sorts of things that are suppossed to happen. so therefore, even if you did get there, it wouldnt be what it would actually be if you were to actually live through all that time and get there.

and to go to the past you'd have to erase all the time that has happened after that. and you can't erase things that have happened to the earth, you can't resurrect the long past dead, and you couldn't re-live the exact same thing the exact same way.


that probably makes absolutley no sense. but i know what i'm getting at...

you have a point
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