Nazism.

WeFoundTheDuck:

There's a shitload of Nazi graffiti in my school and around the town.

It's quite terrifying to go into the bathroom and see the words "Kill All the Jews" scrawled in large letters across the mirrors and doors, with swastikas everywhere.

I know what you mean

Meski:

WeFoundTheDuck:

There's a shitload of Nazi graffiti in my school and around the town.

It's quite terrifying to go into the bathroom and see the words "Kill All the Jews" scrawled in large letters across the mirrors and doors, with swastikas everywhere.

I know what you mean

And the teachers are so unconcerned. I honestly don't think people take it seriously.

If they don't want to punish the kids for supporting Nazis, then at least punish them for carving threatening shit into the walls.

WeFoundTheDuck:

Meski:

WeFoundTheDuck:

There's a shitload of Nazi graffiti in my school and around the town.

It's quite terrifying to go into the bathroom and see the words "Kill All the Jews" scrawled in large letters across the mirrors and doors, with swastikas everywhere.

I know what you mean

And the teachers are so unconcerned. I honestly don't think people take it seriously.

If they don't want to punish the kids for supporting Nazis, then at least punish them for carving threatening shit into the walls.

This is probably not the case in all the schools, but in may school its hard to be concerned if you agree with that ideology. My history for God sake supports it. I mean she isn't a Nazi, but homophobic and a nationalist. And thats what most of graffiti`s and wall carvings around here are.

WeFoundTheDuck:

Meski:

WeFoundTheDuck:

There's a shitload of Nazi graffiti in my school and around the town.

It's quite terrifying to go into the bathroom and see the words "Kill All the Jews" scrawled in large letters across the mirrors and doors, with swastikas everywhere.

I know what you mean

And the teachers are so unconcerned. I honestly don't think people take it seriously.

If they don't want to punish the kids for supporting Nazis, then at least punish them for carving threatening shit into the walls.

Why should they punish them for being/supporting Nazis? Its their decision, you can't prevent or punish them for something they agree with personally. But they should punish them for writing threats && offensive things on the walls. [that includes acting out towards others aswell.] Yes they are racist and cruel, but it's there personal choice. I don't agree with it and I do think its crazy but thats my opinion about their's. I think I'm having a hard time wording this.
I guess I should say, if its in their mind/head there's nothing you can do about it but once they start acting out about it something definatly should be done.

._.isuckatthis.

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

thats bascailly what i asked/said.
thats the point i was trying to get across.

Heels Over Head.:

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

thats bascailly what i asked/said.
thats the point i was trying to get across.

Yeah, sorry.
I read your post right after submitting mine

rehabreject:

Heels Over Head.:

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

thats bascailly what i asked/said.
thats the point i was trying to get across.

Yeah, sorry.
I read your post right after submitting mine

it's fine! i'm glad you posted.

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

Thats what we were discussing about. You wont punish anyone if they aren't doing anything. But Nazi-skinheads, neo Nazis, they are threatening people and beating the shit out of anyone. And writing insulting things on the wall should be punished as well. Especially because its discriminating stuff. Besides as far as I know you cant wear swastikas and other things connected to Nazism if they are in service of worshiping it anyway. So are punished for being Nazis if they walk around with swastikas and if they go and use a black kid as a punching bag. They deserve to get punished anyway.

Dr. Cuddy:

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

Thats what we were discussing about. You wont punish anyone if they aren't doing anything. But Nazi-skinheads, neo Nazis, they are threatening people and beating the shit out of anyone. And writing insulting things on the wall should be punished as well. Especially because its discriminating stuff. Besides as far as I know you cant wear swastikas and other things connected to Nazism if they are in service of worshiping it anyway. So are punished for being Nazis if they walk around with swastikas and if they go and use a black kid as a punching bag. They deserve to get punished anyway.

So you can be punished for wearing one without doing anything?

Dr. Cuddy:

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

Thats what we were discussing about. You wont punish anyone if they aren't doing anything. But Nazi-skinheads, neo Nazis, they are threatening people and beating the shit out of anyone. And writing insulting things on the wall should be punished as well. Especially because its discriminating stuff. Besides as far as I know you cant wear swastikas and other things connected to Nazism if they are in service of worshiping it anyway. So are punished for being Nazis if they walk around with swastikas and if they go and use a black kid as a punching bag. They deserve to get punished anyway.

I've seen a lot of these kids threatening others, and saying how much they'd like to beat up Jewish kids or black kids or gay kids.

But they're not taken seriously because people say "they won't really do it."

I do think that they should be punished, to discourage them from beating up some poor kid that they just assume is Jewish/gay.

If we can only punish them when they actually commit a crime or discrimination, then this isn't really anything to do with Nazism.
You'd punish anyone who went around threatening black kids or gay kids, or graffiting racist slur - regardless of who they are. (At least I think that's what should happen)

rehabreject:

If we can only punish them when they actually commit a crime or discrimination, then this isn't really anything to do with Nazism.
You'd punish anyone who went around threatening black kids or gay kids, or graffiting racist slur - regardless of who they are. (At least I think that's what should happen)

Kids here can be suspended for threatening others.

But the kids making the threats simply aren't reported, or the reports aren't taken seriously, as I've stated before.

WeFoundTheDuck:

I've met a couple kids lately that really do support Nazism.

Not so much the political side of it, just the part where they want to get together and start beating the shit out of Jewish kids and homosexuals.

It's mildly disgusting. And it worries me, that this kind of behaviour could spread if nobody does something about it.

It really is disgusting. If this keeps happening, there could possibly be another Holocaust(sp?) and/or World War.

WeFoundTheDuck:

rehabreject:

If we can only punish them when they actually commit a crime or discrimination, then this isn't really anything to do with Nazism.
You'd punish anyone who went around threatening black kids or gay kids, or graffiting racist slur - regardless of who they are. (At least I think that's what should happen)

Kids here can be suspended for threatening others.

But the kids making the threats simply aren't reported, or the reports aren't taken seriously, as I've stated before.

then make people aware of it. start something to prevent it, kids at my school started this whole thing to spread awarness about whats happening in Uganda. It seems to have worked.

Heels Over Head.:

Dr. Cuddy:

rehabreject:

Can you punish people for being Nazis?
I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's just another political belief system. You can't punish people for their beliefs (unless they lead on to more physical discrimination or violence - which is a whole different issue)

There will always be racists and homophobes but, unless they actually do anything, there's nothing we can do to them. Why should the law be different if you're a Nazi?

Thats what we were discussing about. You wont punish anyone if they aren't doing anything. But Nazi-skinheads, neo Nazis, they are threatening people and beating the shit out of anyone. And writing insulting things on the wall should be punished as well. Especially because its discriminating stuff. Besides as far as I know you cant wear swastikas and other things connected to Nazism if they are in service of worshiping it anyway. So are punished for being Nazis if they walk around with swastikas and if they go and use a black kid as a punching bag. They deserve to get punished anyway.

So you can be punished for wearing one without doing anything?

As far as I know, you arent allowed to wear any sings that have something to do with Nazism, Fascism etc. This may sound cruel, but I approve of that. You may be walking arith swastikas and doing nothing, but you are supporting that behavior. I know that , for example Siouxie of Siouxie & The Banshees wasnt really a Nazi, but wore them to shock, but I dont think that that is anything to play with. I know you cant punish people for their thoughts and ideas, but they are showing that they are supporting Nazism. No one should be allowed to do that.

Heels Over Head.:

WeFoundTheDuck:

rehabreject:

If we can only punish them when they actually commit a crime or discrimination, then this isn't really anything to do with Nazism.
You'd punish anyone who went around threatening black kids or gay kids, or graffiting racist slur - regardless of who they are. (At least I think that's what should happen)

Kids here can be suspended for threatening others.

But the kids making the threats simply aren't reported, or the reports aren't taken seriously, as I've stated before.

then make people aware of it. start something to prevent it, kids at my school started this whole thing to spread awarness about whats happening in Uganda. It seems to have worked.

Uganda. A girl I know is super involved with that. She explained it all to me last week, and I'm jumping on board with that. [/offtopic]

But it's super ridiculously hard to raise awareness here. I'm not trying to make excuses, but most people don't want to hear about anything that's wrong in their community. There's this whole underground movement of Nazism just going along, unchecked, and even when there are specific threats made, the principals just give those involved a stern talking to, and let the matter drop.

I guess what I'm saying is that this whole situation is being taken far too lightly, because people percieve Nazism as being a thing of the past, and I'm wondering how far things will have to go before any attention is given to the situation.

yeah
i think most people think its a thing of the past, just something that you learn about in history
and there's no way anyone sorta stuff like that would be written on our walls
but then again my school is like 90% jewish

I just finished reading Night for school, and it's about the Auschwitz concentration camps written by a survivor. I'm really glad they made us read it because I don't think it is taken seriously enought most of the time, and it really was one of the most horrible events in history. My friend jokes around about being a Nazi all the time...like to the point where I'm not even sure if she's joking. I think it's become more like a thing to be funny though because she would never physically hurt a kid from a different race. She just makes fun of different races all the time. And she has swastikas drawn over her binder. It's pretty sick. But anyways, I hope she gets something out of reading the book, because something that insanly horrible shouldn't be taken lightly and made fun of.

Heels Over Head.:

WeFoundTheDuck:

rehabreject:

If we can only punish them when they actually commit a crime or discrimination, then this isn't really anything to do with Nazism.
You'd punish anyone who went around threatening black kids or gay kids, or graffiting racist slur - regardless of who they are. (At least I think that's what should happen)

Kids here can be suspended for threatening others.

But the kids making the threats simply aren't reported, or the reports aren't taken seriously, as I've stated before.

then make people aware of it. start something to prevent it, kids at my school started this whole thing to spread awarness about whats happening in Uganda. It seems to have worked.

Invisible Children? We had that too. And I found what they were telling me important enough to get involved with it. I think they should have those kinds of things for issues like racism.