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Nine_Inch_Nails
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April 2nd, 2006 at 05:42am
Incubus:
That's not what I meant, what you seemed to be saying is if someone has a complaint that isn't life threatening the souldn't be wasting the hospitals time, like getting a breast reduction, thats not life threating (as we've already establised) but it is painful and can cause problems later on in life. But what you seemed to be saying was that people who are going through this shouldn't shouldn't get help because its not a threat to their life. I totally disagree with that. Hospitals and doctors are there to relieve pain and help people, all people, whether it be a someone with a broken leg, heart problems or in need of a breat reduction.
Tell ya what, next time you find yourself in agony -say you've broken your leg- and are about to go to hospital and get it set and put in a cast are you really going to stop and say to yourself "well this isn't life threatening and by going into the hospital I'm taking up time and medical equipment, hence taking up money that could be going towards the Cardiology department. After all; I can live with a crippled leg but someone can't live with a sick heart!"? Because I don't think you would, you or anyone else for that matter.


You've got quite a good argument there Think
I still agree with Meg, but you gave me some food for thought Smile
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April 2nd, 2006 at 05:46am
Nine_Inch_Nails:
Incubus:
That's not what I meant, what you seemed to be saying is if someone has a complaint that isn't life threatening the souldn't be wasting the hospitals time, like getting a breast reduction, thats not life threating (as we've already establised) but it is painful and can cause problems later on in life. But what you seemed to be saying was that people who are going through this shouldn't shouldn't get help because its not a threat to their life. I totally disagree with that. Hospitals and doctors are there to relieve pain and help people, all people, whether it be a someone with a broken leg, heart problems or in need of a breat reduction.
Tell ya what, next time you find yourself in agony -say you've broken your leg- and are about to go to hospital and get it set and put in a cast are you really going to stop and say to yourself "well this isn't life threatening and by going into the hospital I'm taking up time and medical equipment, hence taking up money that could be going towards the Cardiology department. After all; I can live with a crippled leg but someone can't live with a sick heart!"? Because I don't think you would, you or anyone else for that matter.


You've got quite a good argument there Think
I still agree with Meg, but you gave me some food for thought Smile

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when there is enough money to go round for everybody, you could have a face lift, nose job and botox/silicon implants on the NHS and I'd be happy for you.

But there isn't, so I say we prioritise first. And to my mind, backache comes as a low priority so far.
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April 2nd, 2006 at 09:49am
Bloodraine:
Nine_Inch_Nails:
Incubus:
That's not what I meant, what you seemed to be saying is if someone has a complaint that isn't life threatening the souldn't be wasting the hospitals time, like getting a breast reduction, thats not life threating (as we've already establised) but it is painful and can cause problems later on in life. But what you seemed to be saying was that people who are going through this shouldn't shouldn't get help because its not a threat to their life. I totally disagree with that. Hospitals and doctors are there to relieve pain and help people, all people, whether it be a someone with a broken leg, heart problems or in need of a breat reduction.
Tell ya what, next time you find yourself in agony -say you've broken your leg- and are about to go to hospital and get it set and put in a cast are you really going to stop and say to yourself "well this isn't life threatening and by going into the hospital I'm taking up time and medical equipment, hence taking up money that could be going towards the Cardiology department. After all; I can live with a crippled leg but someone can't live with a sick heart!"? Because I don't think you would, you or anyone else for that matter.


You've got quite a good argument there Think
I still agree with Meg, but you gave me some food for thought Smile

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when there is enough money to go round for everybody, you could have a face lift, nose job and botox/silicon implants on the NHS and I'd be happy for you.

But there isn't, so I say we prioritise first. And to my mind, backache comes as a low priority so far.
And I think keeping Michael Jackson's nose firmly attached to his face, a round-the-clock job in itself, is pretty low priority.

EDIT: Wait, nevermind. I read further back and now I get it. The joke is now null and void. ...It was funny to me, anyway.
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April 2nd, 2006 at 10:02am
dirtyhippie:
And I think keeping Michael Jackson's nose firmly attached to his face, a round-the-clock job in itself, is pretty low priority.

But surely the fact that he (probably) pays for his own surgery is an entirely different matter in itself?

I mean, we are all free to do what we wish with our own bodies, as long as it is our money we are using. I'm thinking it's a different matter whn it is other people's money.
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April 2nd, 2006 at 10:07am
Bloodraine:
Nine_Inch_Nails:
Incubus:
That's not what I meant, what you seemed to be saying is if someone has a complaint that isn't life threatening the souldn't be wasting the hospitals time, like getting a breast reduction, thats not life threating (as we've already establised) but it is painful and can cause problems later on in life. But what you seemed to be saying was that people who are going through this shouldn't shouldn't get help because its not a threat to their life. I totally disagree with that. Hospitals and doctors are there to relieve pain and help people, all people, whether it be a someone with a broken leg, heart problems or in need of a breat reduction.
Tell ya what, next time you find yourself in agony -say you've broken your leg- and are about to go to hospital and get it set and put in a cast are you really going to stop and say to yourself "well this isn't life threatening and by going into the hospital I'm taking up time and medical equipment, hence taking up money that could be going towards the Cardiology department. After all; I can live with a crippled leg but someone can't live with a sick heart!"? Because I don't think you would, you or anyone else for that matter.


You've got quite a good argument there Think
I still agree with Meg, but you gave me some food for thought Smile

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when there is enough money to go round for everybody, you could have a face lift, nose job and botox/silicon implants on the NHS and I'd be happy for you.

But there isn't, so I say we prioritise first. And to my mind, backache comes as a low priority so far.

But I'm not on about getting implants on the NHS, I'm talking about someone getting an operation that will relieve them of a lot of pain, not just now but in years to come. Getting that operation sooner rather than later will probably cost less.
Besides you're saying backache like its something minor like a headache, its not, its extermly painful and prevent people from doing simple things like just carrying home their shopping, and even sometimes if the pain is particually bad can prevent them from even getting out of bed and working, losing them money they need to live like everyone else. And you're telling me that helping someone going through that isn't a priority? Because that's bullshit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, its not vainity, its necessity. People just seem to be saying "Oh so what they've got backache, there are worse things in the world, they should just deal with it".
Well that's easier said than done.
But I do agree that heart operations are more urgent, but that does not mean other people in pain should just be brushed off like they don't matter.
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April 2nd, 2006 at 10:14am
Incubus:
But I do agree that heart operations are more urgent, but that does not mean other people in pain should just be brushed off like they don't matter.

And there you have it. I don't think any more needs to be said, do you?

Perhaps i'm just an idealist, but in an ideal world, I'd prioritise things differently.

I wonder how many people do have boob jobs on the NHS?. After all this palava, I bet theres, oh, about three of them. Laughing
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April 2nd, 2006 at 04:40pm
i dont see a problem with people getting plastic surgery on the NHS if its for a medical problem eg. backache or whatever. my friends mum had problems with her breathing so they had to give her a nose job in order to correct it, that was on the NHS. however, i do think that people with serious health problems should be given priority.
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April 2nd, 2006 at 05:28pm
Bloodraine:
Incubus:
But I do agree that heart operations are more urgent, but that does not mean other people in pain should just be brushed off like they don't matter.

And there you have it. I don't think any more needs to be said, do you?

Perhaps i'm just an idealist, but in an ideal world, I'd prioritise things differently.

I wonder how many people do have boob jobs on the NHS?. After all this palava, I bet theres, oh, about three of them. Laughing

There's probably a load of more things I could say but my argumentive mood seems to have passed so yeah, we'll just leave it at that.

Off topic here but palaver! god what a great word, people do not use that word enough!
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April 2nd, 2006 at 06:32pm
I just want to add this, the NHS is full of shit they fuck up and wont put it right. Surgeons are and can screw your life up and they dont have to answer to anyone.
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April 3rd, 2006 at 07:26am
I think it is peoples choices whether or not they want to have plastic surgery. It may make them look worse, but then again, it may make them look and feel better about themselves if it goes right. For people who had a lifetime of teasing, and bullying, even a marginal difference could make all the difference to them.
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April 9th, 2006 at 09:19am
if you have some serious problems about your look like scars and such i dissaprove it, but if you just want to make your nose smaller ok do it, but i think you can get addicted when you see how good is that. i think that lot of people could become like Jackson if they had money for surgeries.
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April 9th, 2006 at 09:27am
sneki:
if you have some serious problems about your look like scars and such i dissaprove it, but if you just want to make your nose smaller ok do it, but i think you can get addicted when you see how good is that. i think that lot of people could become like Jackson if they had money for surgeries.

Eh

I think you messed up a bit just now...
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April 9th, 2006 at 09:17pm
sneki:
if you have some serious problems about your look like scars and such i dissaprove it, but if you just want to make your nose smaller ok do it, but i think you can get addicted when you see how good is that. i think that lot of people could become like Jackson if they had money for surgeries.

Eh
So your saying no to big, ugly and sometimes painful scars but yes to working on a nose that's prefectly ok?
You do realize that getting a nose job counts as your look! Your seriously contradicting yourself, so much so its funny.
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April 10th, 2006 at 09:18am
Me and my friend were tlaking about this the other day.
I think I agree with most of you, in that people with a priroity - i.e, they've suffered with burns etc - should have the necessary treatment if they want it.
But people who just want to look better really need to learn to live with theirselves. True, for some it is causing depression, but really, everyone has something about themselves they dislike.
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