Suicide and self harm!

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Automatic man:

I never saw the point of cutting yourself. Pain doesn't heal pain just like killing doesn't stop killing. I also don't see a point in suicide. If there is a god suicide is frowned upon by churches and if there isn't then you go to nothingnesa and anything seems better than that...

thats true, Im a christian, and if you commit suicide, GOD see's it as a sin and you are'nt alowed into heaven.

Well, that's probably because you're not part of the large population of people who do.

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Automatic man:

I never saw the point of cutting yourself. Pain doesn't heal pain just like killing doesn't stop killing. I also don't see a point in suicide. If there is a god suicide is frowned upon by churches and if there isn't then you go to nothingnesa and anything seems better than that...

thats true, Im a christian, and if you commit suicide, GOD see's it as a sin and you are'nt alowed into heaven.

Where does it say that you're not allowed into heaven because GOD says so?

"It is possible for the Lord to look at us without seeing our sins because when he forgave us, he removed our sins as far as the east is from the west" (Psalm 103:12)

There is a price for our 'sins'. Hell. Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood.

Nowhere in the bible does it say "you aren't allowed into heaven because God says so". Just no.

I cut myself...I've been addicted for over two years.

I would like to share my 'history' with self-harm because I'm sure it'd help some people understand, but quite honestly, there is no way I can even think to describe it to you accuratly. I mean, until you've done it, until you've actually needed to do it, you won't even be able to grasp a fraction of what I say. I know a lot of cutters, and we are the only ones that understand each other. Sure, it sounds stupid and over-dramatic, but like I said, unless you've been there, you have not the faintest idea.

With that being said, I think people who haven't done it shouldn't really be saying stuff like "Cutting is stupid", "They all do it to get attention", "What does adding pain to pain do? It can't possibly do any good", "Hurting youself can't make you feel better" or anything like that.

I mean, if you haven't been there, how can you say such a thing?

As for suicide...Well, my ex-girlfriend attempted it. It was too horrible of an expeirence. All I can say is this; Picture the one person you care about the most,

Gone.


My rambling is done...I just though I'd get that off my chest

Sorry for the long-ness

Soda[Trigg]:

I cut myself...I've been addicted for over two years.

I would like to share my 'history' with self-harm because I'm sure it'd help some people understand, but quite honestly, there is no way I can even think to describe it to you accuratly. I mean, until you've done it, until you've actually needed to do it, you won't even be able to grasp a fraction of what I say. I know a lot of cutters, and we are the only ones that understand each other. Sure, it sounds stupid and over-dramatic, but like I said, unless you've been there, you have not the faintest idea.

With that being said, I think people who haven't done it shouldn't really be saying stuff like "Cutting is stupid", "They all do it to get attention", "What does adding pain to pain do? It can't possibly do any good", "Hurting youself can't make you feel better" or anything like that.

I mean, if you haven't been there, how can you say such a thing?

As for suicide...Well, my ex-girlfriend attempted it. It was too horrible of an expeirence. All I can say is this; Picture the one person you care about the most,

Gone.


My rambling is done...I just though I'd get that off my chest

Sorry for the long-ness

I know how you feel about the one person you love disappearing.

And I understand completely and I agree with you about everything you said.

And to the one who said GOD would not allow people who commit suicide in Heaven, obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.

Bloodraine:

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Automatic man:

I never saw the point of cutting yourself. Pain doesn't heal pain just like killing doesn't stop killing. I also don't see a point in suicide. If there is a god suicide is frowned upon by churches and if there isn't then you go to nothingnesa and anything seems better than that...

thats true, Im a christian, and if you commit suicide, GOD see's it as a sin and you are'nt alowed into heaven.

Where does it say that you're not allowed into heaven because GOD says so?

"It is possible for the Lord to look at us without seeing our sins because when he forgave us, he removed our sins as far as the east is from the west" (Psalm 103:12)

There is a price for our 'sins'. Hell. Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood.

Nowhere in the bible does it say "you aren't allowed into heaven because God says so". Just no.

yeah you could be seconds from dieing and if you ask for forgiveness then you will be allowed into heaven, but just recently i have been questioning the bible and gods word anyway.

i think everyone's thought about or will think about suicide at some point in their life. I used to self harm but i dont anymore.

i'd also just like to say that self harming is not a way to get attention and anyone that thinks that obviously has no idea what they're talking about. I self harmed becasue it literally became a habit and i felt that i needed to do it, i'm not sure why, i was under a lot of pressure and i was really stressed but i dont know whether i was blaming myself and self harming was a way of punishing myself. i stopped self harming because although it was a habit i didn't want to do it, and i was really scared that i would do it again so i told my mum and when i did i kept telling her that i wasn't crazy because she kept saying stuff like it's a psychiatric thing and she asked if i wanted to see a psychiatrist. I didn't. My dad doesn't know, i made her promise that she wouldn't tell him.

if anyone wants to talk to me about it or needs help then i'll try to help you, just pm me

*faithandmisery*:

i think everyone's thought about or will think about suicide at some point in their life. I used to self harm but i dont anymore.

It most likely has passed through their minds as an escape. But, then you still have the suicidal-taboo. If you mention it (which I am speaking from experiance here) then you could get a 'friend' to say stuff like "OMG you're so EMO!!" . Or even to the point where you think "hey, they'll call me crazy. I can't talk about it" and it builds up.

Self-harm is a negative release pattern. (Councellor told me that)

She advised me that other ways of getting release from the pent up feelings is such.

POSTIVE

[list]Writing words to describe how you feel then throwing them away
Talking to a therapist or a friend
Taking a diverstion, like going to an art museum instead of going about your daily routine
Explaining your circumstances through poetry, journals, stories, etc. [/list]

While I think there are better ways to get rid of emotional pain, I think we're reacting to people who self-harm all the wrong way. Making them seem stupid and worthless and "another member of the pack" for cutting themselves is selfish, and will probably cause them to delve deeper into their depression.

.Hannah.:

I don't know if this has been asked but I want to know your oppinion:

Do you believe in Heaven and Hell, and do you think that if you commit suicide you'll go to Hell?

On another note:
I used to cut myself very often. I didn't care about myself and I completely fucked myself over. My grades slipped, my family freaked, and I never spoke, amongst other things. I think the only possitive thing that came from that is my writting, and I'm not saying, "Hey, go slit your wrists because then you can write well!". I acctually concentrated and yeah, it was a given talent.
Anyway, I met a boy and he changed my life. I stopped cutting and I saw myself as beautiful. Life was good for once. This one guy brought all the happiness I'd missed for years back into my life. Steven taught me the meaning of life: That there is none. I owe my everything to that man. Sadly, Steven passed on September 12 of cancer, and my entire world came crashing town.

We used to say that one day we would take our lives to be together. My main reasoning for this blabber is that I was pondering the thought that maybe there is no after life and all that planning was in vein. Or if there is a Heaven and Hell, I'll go to hell because of the sin I comitted.

I know you've probably heard this a lot but it's true. The only way to heaven is though Jesus Christ. He's the sure way. He helped me through cutting and my suicidal thoughts. He's helped me with my relationships with people and get over the loss of loved ones. PM me if you want to.

I haven't cut myself for 36 days now. PM me if you need advice.

Bloodraine:

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Automatic man:

I never saw the point of cutting yourself. Pain doesn't heal pain just like killing doesn't stop killing. I also don't see a point in suicide. If there is a god suicide is frowned upon by churches and if there isn't then you go to nothingnesa and anything seems better than that...

thats true, Im a christian, and if you commit suicide, GOD see's it as a sin and you are'nt alowed into heaven.

Where does it say that you're not allowed into heaven because GOD says so?

"It is possible for the Lord to look at us without seeing our sins because when he forgave us, he removed our sins as far as the east is from the west" (Psalm 103:12)

There is a price for our 'sins'. Hell. Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood.

Nowhere in the bible does it say "you aren't allowed into heaven because God says so". Just no.

That is true. Your a very clever person Mr bloodrain. BUt our pastor always says that if you commit suicide or self harm you wouldnt be with GOD.. but thats just his veiws.

The EMOnator:

I haven't cut myself for 36 days now. PM me if you need advice.

Congratulations there.

I'd like to clarify something:

Self-harm, in any of its forms, is rarely a way to seek useless attention.

I know a quite few persons who self-harm and just *one* of them did it as a way to get attention from others.

I know people who's gone through hell to hide what they're doing to themselves from family and friends and everyone around them.

There are persons who self-harm to seek positive attention, and i'll try to explain this: There's something big bothering them, but they're nto capable to reach for help and talk about it, so self-harm is for them the way to express "hey, there's somethig going on with me, I need help." But for them cutting is never a "hey, look at me, I dont' want to be ignored, I want to the centre of attention."

Self-harm is a way of distracting your mind from your emotional pain. It does help but it also makes you feels worst. It's a self-destructive cycle, hence why we say it's an addiction.

You feel like crap one day > you cut yourself > you feel ahsamed and guilty abotu what you've just done, but you knwo it worked and make it all eassier for you for a few moments > you cut again.

Cutting it's not fun. It involves pain, blood, blood stains that need to be cleaned to hide it, it involves scar that you might greatly regret after you've got over it, it involves the shame and the stigma that society has attached to it. I think someone's who is willing to go through all this jsut to be the centre of attention in her/his group of friends needs just as much help as someone who does it to reach out for help because she can't tlak and ask for it or as someone who's been hiding her/his self-harming for years.

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That is true. Your a very clever person Mr bloodrain. BUt our pastor always says that if you commit suicide or self harm you wouldnt be with GOD.. but thats just his veiws.

I'm female.

CristhyneS:

The EMOnator:

I haven't cut myself for 36 days now. PM me if you need advice.

Congratulations there.

I'd like to clarify something:

Self-harm, in any of its forms, is rarely a way to seek useless attention.

I know a quite few persons who self-harm and just *one* of them did it as a way to get attention from others.

I know people who's gone through hell to hide what they're doing to themselves from family and friends and everyone around them.

There are persons who self-harm to seek positive attention, and i'll try to explain this: There's something big bothering them, but they're nto capable to reach for help and talk about it, so self-harm is for them the way to express "hey, there's somethig going on with me, I need help." But for them cutting is never a "hey, look at me, I dont' want to be ignored, I want to the centre of attention."

Self-harm is a way of distracting your mind from your emotional pain. It does help but it also makes you feels worst. It's a self-destructive cycle, hence why we say it's an addiction.

You feel like crap one day > you cut yourself > you feel ahsamed and guilty abotu what you've just done, but you knwo it worked and make it all eassier for you for a few moments > you cut again.

Cutting it's not fun. It involves pain, blood, blood stains that need to be cleaned to hide it, it involves scar that you might greatly regret after you've got over it, it involves the shame and the stigma that society has attached to it. I think someone's who is willing to go through all this jsut to be the centre of attention in her/his group of friends needs just as much help as someone who does it to reach out for help because she can't tlak and ask for it or as someone who's been hiding her/his self-harming for years.

Thank you! Agreed.

I almost died a couple days ago because i tried inhalants . It was so sad, me writing my last good byes to my family. But ever since then i have stopped cutting. HELP!

its true;
some people who self-harm are dubbed as... well, various things.
In most people, its not a point for attention.
A cry for help, maybe.
But its most people's way out of depression and pain.
It's not the answer (cried thousands of people).
But we don't need to ridicule people who do self harm.

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Bloodraine:

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Automatic man:

I never saw the point of cutting yourself. Pain doesn't heal pain just like killing doesn't stop killing. I also don't see a point in suicide. If there is a god suicide is frowned upon by churches and if there isn't then you go to nothingnesa and anything seems better than that...

thats true, Im a christian, and if you commit suicide, GOD see's it as a sin and you are'nt alowed into heaven.

Where does it say that you're not allowed into heaven because GOD says so?

"It is possible for the Lord to look at us without seeing our sins because when he forgave us, he removed our sins as far as the east is from the west" (Psalm 103:12)

There is a price for our 'sins'. Hell. Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood.

Nowhere in the bible does it say "you aren't allowed into heaven because God says so". Just no.

That is true. Your a very clever person Mr bloodrain. BUt our pastor always says that if you commit suicide or self harm you wouldnt be with GOD.. but thats just his veiws.

i highly disagree. Cutting and suicide just means that we need help with something. It is nothing to be disgraced about.

i have think about it, but never reach the point of doing it, obviously... i think theppl who do it, it's because they are depressed, they have a low selfsteem, they're frustated, and some cases curiosity: "Wat would happen after i die?" Persnally i have thought about because od the pression i feel.