Suicide and self harm!

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March 2nd, 2007 at 10:53pm
I'm Lizalicious.:
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I'm Lizalicious.:
I really don't know what to say to this topic. I mean, there is a lot I don't know about other people.
But I'll say this...

Commiting suicide is terrible, and it's sin, so you go to Hell.
Self harm is terrible too and it's very stupid. Unless you're a masochist and like torture. ;;_;;
in all respect......I really want to kill you right now
Really? That's not respectful. And I'm sorry. That's what I think. And if you can't respect that, then don't say anything.
Well, let's see why I'd be pissed.
A friend of mind (and one of the three original mods of this forum along with me and Steph) killed herself this summer.
I've tried to kill myself twice, and I cut and burn myself (though I'm trying to stop.)

Now, I don't know where I got the feeling, but I'm pretty sure you didn't think much before you made that post. I'm positive you don't understand a damn thing about this. Oh yeah, and you misquoted the Bible. But that doesn't stand much here in this atheist liberal site.

But you seriously don't know how much you just pissed me off.
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March 2nd, 2007 at 10:55pm
EhrenAndDave_PwnUrMa:
spill_no_sick:
I'm Lizalicious.:
I really don't know what to say to this topic. I mean, there is a lot I don't know about other people.
But I'll say this...

Commiting suicide is terrible, and it's sin, so you go to Hell.
Self harm is terrible too and it's very stupid. Unless you're a masochist and like torture. ;;_;;
in all respect......I really want to kill you right now
Is that really needed? She was stating her opion. Disagree with it, thats up to you. But you don't need to be so mean about it. Rolling Eyes
yes, I think that is really needed

last summer my friend was yelling profanities at a parade. He was pissed, he was throwing things, he was wishing horrible things. Was that needed?
Well, he's Jewish, and the KKK had the right to say they wished more Jews were killed during WWII and that they should all go to hell
now, was it necessary for him to get so pissed?
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March 2nd, 2007 at 10:56pm
spill_no_sick:
Well, let's see why I'd be pissed.
A friend of mind (and one of the three original mods of this forum along with me and Steph) killed herself this summer.
I've tried to kill myself twice, and I cut and burn myself (though I'm trying to stop.)

Now, I don't know where I got the feeling, but I'm pretty sure you didn't think much before you made that post. I'm positive you don't understand a damn thing about this. Oh yeah, and you misquoted the Bible. But that doesn't stand much here in this atheist liberal site.

But you seriously don't know how much you just pissed me off.
Well I'm very sorry about your friend and for you too. Why didn't you just tell me before, instead of saying that you were going to kill me?

I don't want to have this discussion.
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March 2nd, 2007 at 11:05pm
I'm Lizalicious.:
spill_no_sick:
Well, let's see why I'd be pissed.
A friend of mind (and one of the three original mods of this forum along with me and Steph) killed herself this summer.
I've tried to kill myself twice, and I cut and burn myself (though I'm trying to stop.)

Now, I don't know where I got the feeling, but I'm pretty sure you didn't think much before you made that post. I'm positive you don't understand a damn thing about this. Oh yeah, and you misquoted the Bible. But that doesn't stand much here in this atheist liberal site.

But you seriously don't know how much you just pissed me off.
Well I'm very sorry about your friend and for you too. Why didn't you just tell me before, instead of saying that you were going to kill me?

I don't want to have this discussion.
I just wanted to let you know that you said something that merrited a threat of the sort.
And I could have asked for sympathy, but seriously, you need to realize it's so much more complicated than you make it seem.
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March 2nd, 2007 at 11:40pm
I'm Lizalicious.:
Really? That's not respectful. And I'm sorry. That's what I think. And if you can't respect that, then don't say anything.

That can be what you think, and I did make a post respecting what you said and it would be lovely if you would acknowledge it instead of ignoring it because in all due respect, your post was alot more rude than what Nick said.
I'm Lizalicious.:
Well I'm very sorry about your friend and for you too. Why didn't you just tell me before, instead of saying that you were going to kill me?

I don't want to have this discussion.

A better question would be why didn't you think before you made that post? This is a discussion forum... typically we have discussions in here... just so you know Shifty
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April 5th, 2007 at 08:04pm
i know this has been inactive but this is important, i have began cutting myself and i need to stop but i have no idea how can someone relate or give me advice?
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April 6th, 2007 at 04:23pm
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i know this has been inactive but this is important, i have began cutting myself and i need to stop but i have no idea how can someone relate or give me advice?
If you want advice go here.
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April 6th, 2007 at 11:41pm
I'm going to repeat myself
pick your own self up and go

that's how I got out of it
actually, I had ambitions of full-on suicide around February/March, but I still stopped for that reason

so yeah, the cuts on my right arm aren't noticable if you only see them for a second
my left arm, not so much

that's basically it
I've always overcomplicated things and overanalyzed but stop
that's all the advice I can give
if it is to the point that your brain releases "happy chemicals" when you cut, then become addicted to something else psychologically

(and the point of my message wasn't, "quit or kill yourself" even though that was very blatently how I said it all works
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April 7th, 2007 at 03:17am
I'm just going to be brutally honest. I don't think it'll benefit anyone, but at the same time it's getting this off my chest and also giving some of the more ignorant people on the board an insight into how self mutilation really works.

It's not like the movies, I don't have beautifully carved scars up my forearm. I didn't have perfect mascara tears and I most certainly didn't have a moment where everything clicked into place and I realised how stupid it is to do that to yourself. The thrill of flying high before crashing lead me to places I never want to go again, it's nearly killed me many times and it also lead me to abuse my ever loyal friends and family. It lead me to do things that the sober, clean me would never do.

I started cutting when I was about 13 because of horrific bullying at school. Little scratches where I dug my nails into my skin and felt a slight rush from the pain. I got to high school and far from things getting better as I'd assumed, things just got so much worse. I was at an all girls school so the cattyness was unbearable. I was pretty, and I see that now, but the other girls berated me so often that I'd look in the mirror and want to just break down.

Enter razors and proper intent.

I've been hospitalised for attempted suicide twice and have spent several months on and off in a rehabilitation clinic under 24/7 watch.
That was all before I turned 17.
Then I made the beautiful mistake of falling in with the wrong crowd. Instead of cutting myself and testing my pain threshold, I've turned to testing my own mortality. I'd drink as much as I could before nearly passing out, then I'd pop a party pill to wake me up so I could drink more. I'd leave the party with people I've never met before solely because they promised me more drugs or alcohol back at their place. I've never been raped, thank god, but there've been several close calls. Did I stop? No.
Last year though, my mum found out exactly what her little girl was doing all these nights because a friend of mine (although for several months after, I despised him) followed me around for a couple of nights and relayed what was going on to my mum.
Yippee for rehab. I'm now almost clean of drugs, the only things I'll touch are cigarettes and alcohol. However, my cutting's become so much worse. I simply can't turn off the little voices telling me how good I'll feel, how much happier I'll be when I see the blood.
For awhile, the cuts became drugged scratches, but lately they're getting deeper and deeper.
It's something I don't think I'll ever be able to stop and in a truely vicious cycle, the hurt that those thoughts bring, make me want to just grab my razors and do it again.

I'll probably edit this as people make derogatory comments. Just don't call me a liar is all I have to say.
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April 8th, 2007 at 11:10pm
Suicide is bad. One time in my life, actually just a couple of months ago, I started to go, no, i WENT emo: cut myself a lot, thought about suicide, always depressed. One time I almost did kill myself, but by the grace of god, I was saved. If your ever depressed and think of suicide, go to god. You may think I might be talking crap, but TRUST ME, god saved me, my friends, and my family. God is always there, just gotta want to look for him.
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April 8th, 2007 at 11:32pm
BI Hoe:
Suicide is bad. One time in my life, actually just a couple of months ago, I started to go, no, i WENT emo: cut myself a lot, thought about suicide, always depressed. One time I almost did kill myself, but by the grace of god, I was saved. If your ever depressed and think of suicide, go to god. You may think I might be talking crap, but TRUST ME, god saved me, my friends, and my family. God is always there, just gotta want to look for him.

I'm glad you got through, and maybe I'm assuming too much, but unless you're religious I don't think God will help you through this. Personally, I've never been very religious and when I found myself in this kind of place, he wasn't exactly the first thing I looked to. I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say, but I know for me, when I was going through this, I found it hard to believe in a god.
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April 9th, 2007 at 01:53am
^ Exactly.
I found when I go into a bout of depression- I'm not sure I'll ever be rid of it- the thought of a god out there letting me feel like this made things worse. Then I'd start thinking about the starving kids out there, the homeless people and all that other crap that a god could help... And ugh. Made things so much messier
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April 12th, 2007 at 06:27pm
Self-harm is a way to release pain. Some people lay out their knives or whatever like a proceedure or do it as a cry for help or self-hatred. But i don't wanna hear anyone bad-mouthing unless they've been through it, come on people we're not preps.
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April 12th, 2007 at 06:34pm
okay self harm is a cry for help always and its also always for attention!
i have been through it and i know this and its something i wouldnt do anymore.

the person wants to be aknowlaged and seen to when i used to do it allthough i used to hide my scars i used to wish people would notice so i could have help or to get attention (bad is better then none when you feel alone)

it also kinda gives you a sense of freedom and i dunno summin nice maybe achivement... you did this on your own there for your in controll of yourself almost i guess..

and it dose feel like your draining all the bad blood away the pain misery etc. etc.
just letting it all go and start a fresh.

that is actually caused my a chemicle that leaves your body i belive when you do it,

im just trying to help those who havnt been through it to understand from somone elses prsopective

also i can be an addiction and everyone should stop its not good and its not healthy and attention can be got in better fasions without loosing yourself (sorry bout spelling)
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April 13th, 2007 at 02:47pm
tyco:
okay self harm is a cry for help always and its also always for attention!
i have been through it and i know this and its something i wouldnt do anymore.

the person wants to be aknowlaged and seen to when i used to do it allthough i used to hide my scars i used to wish people would notice so i could have help or to get attention (bad is better then none when you feel alone)

it also kinda gives you a sense of freedom and i dunno summin nice maybe achivement... you did this on your own there for your in controll of yourself almost i guess..

and it dose feel like your draining all the bad blood away the pain misery etc. etc.
just letting it all go and start a fresh.

that is actually caused my a chemicle that leaves your body i belive when you do it,

im just trying to help those who havnt been through it to understand from somone elses prsopective

also i can be an addiction and everyone should stop its not good and its not healthy and attention can be got in better fasions without loosing yourself (sorry bout spelling)


That is not always the case. What about self-harmers who do it because they believe entirely that they are bad and need to be punished?
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April 13th, 2007 at 04:56pm
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tyco:
okay self harm is a cry for help always and its also always for attention!
i have been through it and i know this and its something i wouldnt do anymore.

the person wants to be aknowlaged and seen to when i used to do it allthough i used to hide my scars i used to wish people would notice so i could have help or to get attention (bad is better then none when you feel alone)

it also kinda gives you a sense of freedom and i dunno summin nice maybe achivement... you did this on your own there for your in controll of yourself almost i guess..

and it dose feel like your draining all the bad blood away the pain misery etc. etc.
just letting it all go and start a fresh.

that is actually caused my a chemicle that leaves your body i belive when you do it,

im just trying to help those who havnt been through it to understand from somone elses prsopective

also i can be an addiction and everyone should stop its not good and its not healthy and attention can be got in better fasions without loosing yourself (sorry bout spelling)


That is not always the case. What about self-harmers who do it because they believe entirely that they are bad and need to be punished?


okay i agree but there are very few of them most people who do it or have done it really liked it it wasnt a punishment for them.
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April 13th, 2007 at 11:18pm
Self infliction of pain releases endorphins. Endorphins have similar properties to morphine, except that it is naturally occuring in the piuitary gland and the nervous system. It is possible that most people who practice self harm never actually 'hurt' themselves with enough endorphins being released into the brain, since it is a pain-reliever neurotransmitter. So, there is no actual harm in self-harm. They're produced when there are high levels of stress present, no surprise about it, so some people have found a way to eliviate their stress through self-harm. Releasing endorphins aslo strengthens the immune system, yet another reason why I can see pains good affects. I guess pain addiction is similar to morphine addiction since endorphins are like morphine, and could then lead to addiciton.

If you think people shouldn't do it...well sex also releases endorphins.
So does eating certain foods, running, laughing, and other relieving activities. People who are addicited to endorphin release may run to much, eat too much chilli, whatever, but cutting is only another way to relieve themselves.
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April 14th, 2007 at 05:45pm
Anji:
Self infliction of pain releases endorphins. Endorphins have similar properties to morphine, except that it is naturally occuring in the piuitary gland and the nervous system. It is possible that most people who practice self harm never actually 'hurt' themselves with enough endorphins being released into the brain, since it is a pain-reliever neurotransmitter. So, there is no actual harm in self-harm. They're produced when there are high levels of stress present, no surprise about it, so some people have found a way to eliviate their stress through self-harm. Releasing endorphins aslo strengthens the immune system, yet another reason why I can see pains good affects. I guess pain addiction is similar to morphine addiction since endorphins are like morphine, and could then lead to addiciton.

If you think people shouldn't do it...well sex also releases endorphins.
So does eating certain foods, running, laughing, and other relieving activities. People who are addicited to endorphin release may run to much, eat too much chilli, whatever, but cutting is only another way to relieve themselves.


erm yea.... and what about those people who cut too deep and kill themselves or have to be rushed to casualty because they have cut into a major vein or archery.
what about the nasty scars and the way people look at you when they see them
what about finding it hard to get a job where your arms might be on show
what about those people that get too addicted that they have to find otherways to feed there addiction.
what about those that get soooo worked up by it all that they actually commit suicide
what about those whos parents would literally dissown them if they knew
what about those who loose all there friends because no one wants to be friends with a looser who results in self harm!

THAT! is why thats why people shouldnt do it!
its a scarey thing it really is.

and if sex and food and running all release it then these are the things that cutters should be doing instead of cutting!
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April 15th, 2007 at 02:32am
tyco:
Anji:
Self infliction of pain releases endorphins. Endorphins have similar properties to morphine, except that it is naturally occuring in the piuitary gland and the nervous system. It is possible that most people who practice self harm never actually 'hurt' themselves with enough endorphins being released into the brain, since it is a pain-reliever neurotransmitter. So, there is no actual harm in self-harm. They're produced when there are high levels of stress present, no surprise about it, so some people have found a way to eliviate their stress through self-harm. Releasing endorphins aslo strengthens the immune system, yet another reason why I can see pains good affects. I guess pain addiction is similar to morphine addiction since endorphins are like morphine, and could then lead to addiciton.

If you think people shouldn't do it...well sex also releases endorphins.
So does eating certain foods, running, laughing, and other relieving activities. People who are addicited to endorphin release may run to much, eat too much chilli, whatever, but cutting is only another way to relieve themselves.


erm yea.... and what about those people who cut too deep and kill themselves or have to be rushed to casualty because they have cut into a major vein or archery.
what about the nasty scars and the way people look at you when they see them
what about finding it hard to get a job where your arms might be on show
what about those people that get too addicted that they have to find otherways to feed there addiction.
what about those that get soooo worked up by it all that they actually commit suicide
what about those whos parents would literally dissown them if they knew
what about those who loose all there friends because no one wants to be friends with a looser who results in self harm!

THAT! is why thats why people shouldnt do it!
its a scarey thing it really is.

and if sex and food and running all release it then these are the things that cutters should be doing instead of cutting!
All the things you listed are from serious addictions to cutting. Like any habit, in moderation it is good, excess is bad.

If you have too much sex, you could get HIV, possibly cancer as some studies have shown, if you're a girl you can get pregnant. If you're addicted to eating, you could get morbidly obese. Quite hard to get a job when you have to waddle from place to place. You could develop a heart problem, have a stroke from fat building up in arteries. Runners who run too much and get too many 'runner's high[s]' can easily fall into respritory arrest should they run too much. They can exhaust their heart and develop arthritis.

Addiciton to anything releasing endorphins can potentially be dangerous. Just because cutters seem to be physically hurting themselves in the process doesn't mean they always are and it is sometimes good for them as a habit, like everything else. And as I said previously, as an addiciton, anything can be dangerous.
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April 15th, 2007 at 08:30pm
Statistic: for every(1)suicide completion(death)there are 400 attempts. Alot of us feel depression and sadness sometime throughout our lives. When depression happens, we usually feel lost and alone. Those feelings are so common. We don't realize it.

Things that really help are a diary, and telling someone. They've helped me majorly. And if any of you every need someone to talk to. . .I know what you're going through.
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