yeah then how i come how i felt like crying while listening to the used so i went for a smoke now i don't feel like crying while listening to the used.
Many different facotors could change this.
Like, you stopped listening to the music while you were having a smoke so your mind was on a different thing, you were outside having the cigarette, maybe, or just possibley that within the space of however long it took you to smoke the cigarette that you may have actually brightened up a bit? I know that I can feel sad for like, 5 minutes or whatever and want to ball my eyes out and then the next minute, I'm perfectly fine.
um no. i know it was the smoke that did this. it always happens, whenever i feel like crying and then have one then i don't need to cry. anyway like i said several people i know do it whenever they're depressed. the links i posted also state this, so why don't you give up? or do you want me to just keep giving you facts that are right and you can just carry on thinking you're einstein when really you're completely wrong.
Also nicotine excites your immune system and so it may have lifted your mood in the short term, as in like.. 15 minutes. But that could be enough to make you stop feeling sad.
Also nicotine excites your immune system and so it may have lifted your mood in the short term, as in like.. 15 minutes. But that could be enough to make you stop feeling sad.
so now you're agreeing with me? afterall i never said it gets rid of depression or relieves it like forever, well unless you have a smoke every 5 minutes it might haha.
anyway i'm going to give up because you guys really can't understand the facts that it does.
Can't we?
Nice debate you've got there, calling us stupid and everything
i did? you might wanna re-read what i said. you're just ignoring the fact. end of.
newagecarny Was Here Two Weeks Ago Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 42495
December 15th, 2007 at 10:13am
Opheliac_666:
i did? you might wanna re-read what i said. you're just ignoring the fact. end of.
we can't understand~
Don't get pissed off ffs. This is SD.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
December 15th, 2007 at 03:31pm
Opheliac_666:
it was one fucking song. no songs make you emotional? and trust me, it isn't placebo affect. it's what nicotine can do to you, relieve depression.
I cry when I listen to 'Redemption Song'. But when I listen to 'Redemption Song' and put on make up, or eat dinner, or chill with mates, I don't cry! Putting on make up, eating dinner, hanging out with your friends; these things cure depression!
...Not.
Crying to a song isn't the same thing as depression, it's just emotional sensitivity. Nicotine does have effects on a smoker which will moderate the spectrum of emotions, but not permanently. Nicotine releases beta-endorphins which increases pleasure which would appear to relieve a person from depression. Endorphins work more like concealer does though it masks what the problem is but eventually it'll start to go away and the problem's still there. With depression, nicotine will release endorphins to enhance a state of well-being even though the symptoms are still present.
Also, the thing about smoking is, because nicotine is a psychoactive drug, a user will not be entirely aware of it's actual effects because of what nicotine stimulates in the brain, they tend to make reasons to continue with what they usually know is a bad habit but are certain does good, too.
And nicotine is also found in vegetables like potatoes and chilis (which I think is actually a fruit). There is no correlation between excessive eating of chips and relief of depression. Same applies to chili, even though the levels of the substance in chili which nicotine stems from is enough to cause addiction.
How's that for facts?
cabot gal GSBitch Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 76863
December 15th, 2007 at 04:13pm
Opheliac_666:
um no. i know it was the smoke that did this. it always happens, whenever i feel like crying and then have one then i don't need to cry. anyway like i said several people i know do it whenever they're depressed. the links i posted also state this, so why don't you give up? or do you want me to just keep giving you facts that are right and you can just carry on thinking you're einstein when really you're completely wrong.
You're going to have to calm down if you want to have an actual debate, cause that's what a debate is about; different people disbuting other people.
Not once have I claimed to be "Einstein" and I can fully admit that I know nothing about smoking, not once have I tried to say that I do know anything about smoking. If you read my post you can see that I was merely making suggestions as to what might have happened.
i know it was the smoke that did this. it always happens, whenever i feel like crying and then have one then i don't need to cry.
Exactly. It's a mental thing for you. Maybe you had a cigarette at one particular time when you felt upset and then you felt better, but now you believe that everytime you feel sad, a cigarette will cure it.
Sherlock Board Parasite Age: 39 Gender: Female Posts: 35331
December 15th, 2007 at 05:12pm
Opheliac_666:
bjtp:
Also nicotine excites your immune system and so it may have lifted your mood in the short term, as in like.. 15 minutes. But that could be enough to make you stop feeling sad.
so now you're agreeing with me? afterall i never said it gets rid of depression or relieves it like forever, well unless you have a smoke every 5 minutes it might haha.
Well yes, and no. I am agreeing with the proven fact that nicotine is a stimulant, and maybe that is why you feel it relieves your bad mood?
it's your choice if your going to smoke or not, so it's your choice to get cancer then. don't sue those companies for something you chose to do. that's like trying to sue mcdonalds for making you fat lol
you get cancer when the cells in your body start generating new cells to take the old cell's places that have died, and when they produce too many of them, they form clusters or something and thats when you get cancer...
EDIT: so its not WHAT you do, its more HOW LONG it takes to get a bad reaction, and that takes a bit of time, really, its not that instantly, when you take a drag you become infected with cancer, doesnt work that way, if everything worked like that, we'd all be dead XD
Sylar Falling In Love With The Board Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 5703
December 26th, 2007 at 07:56am
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Opheliac_666:
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Opheliac_666:
anyway i'm going to give up because you guys really can't understand the facts that it does.
Can't we?
Nice debate you've got there, calling us stupid and everything
i did? you might wanna re-read what i said. you're just ignoring the fact. end of.
You're a post whore. Quit it.
I'm a smoker, a chain one at that and cigarettes do not lift my moods, or anyone I knows moods.
I'm with whomever brought up the placebo argument. It's perfect in theory and in practise which is why they give sugar pills to AIDS patients and see results. You expect the cigarette to brighten up you day, thus, it does. For those of us who know a cigarette has no emotional impact, it's all bogus.
And don't . It's highly patronising and annoying.
Sylar Falling In Love With The Board Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 5703
December 26th, 2007 at 08:00am
PaNcAkEs:
trisha_goes_rawr:
it's your choice if your going to smoke or not, so it's your choice to get cancer then. don't sue those companies for something you chose to do. that's like trying to sue mcdonalds for making you fat lol
you get cancer when the cells in your body start generating new cells to take the old cell's places that have died, and when they produce too many of them, they form clusters or something and thats when you get cancer...
EDIT: so its not WHAT you do, its more HOW LONG it takes to get a bad reaction, and that takes a bit of time, really, its not that instantly, when you take a drag you become infected with cancer, doesnt work that way, if everything worked like that, we'd all be dead XD
This.
I mean, my grandfather is a perfect example. He's smoked damn near a packet a day for at least 60 years (he's in his late seventies and started when he was about 14. I'm rounding his age up 18 just because.). He's in perfect health, albeit he has a nasty cough during winter. Go figure.
it's your choice if your going to smoke or not, so it's your choice to get cancer then. don't sue those companies for something you chose to do. that's like trying to sue mcdonalds for making you fat lol
you get cancer when the cells in your body start generating new cells to take the old cell's places that have died, and when they produce too many of them, they form clusters or something and thats when you get cancer...
EDIT: so its not WHAT you do, its more HOW LONG it takes to get a bad reaction, and that takes a bit of time, really, its not that instantly, when you take a drag you become infected with cancer, doesnt work that way, if everything worked like that, we'd all be dead XD
This.
I mean, my grandfather is a perfect example. He's smoked damn near a packet a day for at least 60 years (he's in his late seventies and started when he was about 14. I'm rounding his age up 18 just because.). He's in perfect health, albeit he has a nasty cough during winter. Go figure.
Yeah. I think the old people are way tougher than we are nowadays from what I've seen/heard of their smoking habits. O_o
The Placebo affect argument is bullshit, you shouldn't even have to prove that point because it's widely known. Nicotine is a stimulant but it doesn't elevate your mood, your mind does that itself with addiction because it "needs" (NOTE THE "'s) the nicotine.
I find this interesting. Nicotine removes oxygen from your blood creating a head rush when you smoke too fast (doesn't elevate your mood either ms fancy pants "facts" ) and copies the affects of acetylcholine a chemical messenger in your brain which allows impulses to pass through synovial gaps allowing a faster rate of transaction (opiates do the oppostie, they block acetylcholine from passing impulses) so in theory Nicotine could be a very good thing if it didn't remove the oxygen from your blood.
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Kristmas_Tsanne Great Success! Age: 32 Gender: Male Posts: 59161
December 26th, 2007 at 11:39pm
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Opheliac_666:
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Opheliac_666:
anyway i'm going to give up because you guys really can't understand the facts that it does.
Can't we?
Nice debate you've got there, calling us stupid and everything
i did? you might wanna re-read what i said. you're just ignoring the fact. end of.
Oh but it's not fact. It's simply your point of view and has nothing to do with facts.
well neither are you so you can't say i'm wrong, atleast i can prove it that it's true.
I Kill Children.:
The Placebo affect argument is bullshit, you shouldn't even have to prove that point because it's widely known. Nicotine is a stimulant but it doesn't elevate your mood, your mind does that itself with addiction because it "needs" (NOTE THE "'s) the nicotine.
I find this interesting. Nicotine removes oxygen from your blood creating a head rush when you smoke too fast (doesn't elevate your mood either ms fancy pants "facts" ) and copies the affects of acetylcholine a chemical messenger in your brain which allows impulses to pass through synovial gaps allowing a faster rate of transaction (opiates do the oppostie, they block acetylcholine from passing impulses) so in theory Nicotine could be a very good thing if it didn't remove the oxygen from your blood.
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Sorry no science what?
Cecilia Had A Life Before GSB Age: 39 Gender: Female Posts: 26847
December 27th, 2007 at 03:02pm
Opheliac_666:
well neither are you so you can't say i'm wrong, atleast i can prove it that it's true.
Cecilia:
It's your point of view, but you're not the science embodied, therefore, it's not a fact.
Did I claim I knew better? No.
I've just said that a point of view doesn't make a fact.
So you can't say I'm wrong on that.
So you didn't prove it's true.
You wrote your point of view from what you've experienced.
My friends get mad at me, and people here probably will too...
The other day, I found out that someone i work with smokes. She's seventeen and after a year of working with her I never knew, but she's been doing it all that time
When I found out, I kind of lost respect for her. My friend says "she smokes, big deal, it shouldnt lower your opinion of her" but it does.
I'm sorry if this offends people but it's my opinion. People who take up smoking have got to be pretty idiotic because WHY would you take up a habit with so many KNOWN negative affects and very very few positive ones.
(btw... I'm talking about cigarettes, not marijuana or anything.)
you're just ignoring the fact. end of.
Making a mistake doesn't make you stupid in my opinion, it just makes you human.
