Do You Think Praying Works?

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June 22nd, 2007 at 02:46pm
Its.. weird. Something I noticed a few days ago, actually.
I was raised to believe in God and my mother's faiths and such. I now choose not to, but I still catch myself, when in pain or in desperate need, just sort of moaning to myself, and asking God for relief.. even though I don't believe in God. -.-

I think in hard times, people just need something to believe, something to depend on.
I agree with the placebo idea. It doesn't do anything in itself, but if you believe in it hard enough, you'll think it is helping, and because of that, it will help you.
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June 23rd, 2007 at 09:15am
Skatanic.:
Its.. weird. Something I noticed a few days ago, actually.
I was raised to believe in God and my mother's faiths and such. I now choose not to, but I still catch myself, when in pain or in desperate need, just sort of moaning to myself, and asking God for relief.. even though I don't believe in God. -.-

I think in hard times, people just need something to believe, something to depend on.
I agree with the placebo idea. It doesn't do anything in itself, but if you believe in it hard enough, you'll think it is helping, and because of that, it will help you.


I do that too, actually.
I'm an agnostic. I don't know whether God exists or not, and tbh that's fine with me. I'll find out when the time comes. Okay so I do lean more on the "he doesn't exist" side, but I still ask him (or her) for help when i'm struggling.

*Shrugs*
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June 23rd, 2007 at 10:27am
Skatanic.:
Its.. weird. Something I noticed a few days ago, actually.
I was raised to believe in God and my mother's faiths and such. I now choose not to, but I still catch myself, when in pain or in desperate need, just sort of moaning to myself, and asking God for relief.. even though I don't believe in God. -.-

I think in hard times, people just need something to believe, something to depend on.
I agree with the placebo idea. It doesn't do anything in itself, but if you believe in it hard enough, you'll think it is helping, and because of that, it will help you.

How do you know if it's just a placebo effect and not a real answer to your prayer?
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June 23rd, 2007 at 10:33am
Who knows?
But it can't do any harm, right? Con
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June 23rd, 2007 at 10:35am
I'm an Atheist, so no, i don't think praying works.
You make your own way in this world, you get lucky, you make your own sucess.
Praying doesn't do it for you.
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June 23rd, 2007 at 05:15pm
Peardrops:
Skatanic.:
Its.. weird. Something I noticed a few days ago, actually.
I was raised to believe in God and my mother's faiths and such. I now choose not to, but I still catch myself, when in pain or in desperate need, just sort of moaning to myself, and asking God for relief.. even though I don't believe in God. -.-

I think in hard times, people just need something to believe, something to depend on.
I agree with the placebo idea. It doesn't do anything in itself, but if you believe in it hard enough, you'll think it is helping, and because of that, it will help you.



I do that too, actually.
I'm an agnostic. I don't know whether God exists or not, and tbh that's fine with me. I'll find out when the time comes. Okay so I do lean more on the "he doesn't exist" side, but I still ask him (or her) for help when i'm struggling.

*Shrugs*

That's basically me. I'm not quite an Athiest or an Agnostic. I don't believe, but I'm not entirely ruling out the possibility, because that would be as blind as following, imo, because there's no proof either way.
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June 23rd, 2007 at 05:15pm
Micro Sheep.:
Skatanic.:
Its.. weird. Something I noticed a few days ago, actually.
I was raised to believe in God and my mother's faiths and such. I now choose not to, but I still catch myself, when in pain or in desperate need, just sort of moaning to myself, and asking God for relief.. even though I don't believe in God. -.-

I think in hard times, people just need something to believe, something to depend on.
I agree with the placebo idea. It doesn't do anything in itself, but if you believe in it hard enough, you'll think it is helping, and because of that, it will help you.

How do you know if it's just a placebo effect and not a real answer to your prayer?

I don't. I believe. :]
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August 3rd, 2007 at 01:58pm
I don't think praying works, and I don't believe in God...

...and yet, sometimes if I'm really worried about something I still pray...

I think in a way, it works as a way to calm you down or make sense of a situation, but not actually as a prayer being answered
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September 3rd, 2007 at 10:14am
Yes, god definately hears you & praying totally helps, it gives you more confindence
When I prayed before my math exam, i got confident, & I studied real hard & I got 100% on my math exam Very Happy
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Some people don't believe in god, but i think everyone should believe in god
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September 3rd, 2007 at 06:54pm
lmfao Godot.
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September 3rd, 2007 at 06:58pm
Anji:
lmfao Godot.


um...?
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September 4th, 2007 at 11:40pm
you know, maybe I'm taking it for granted, or something but
after he "took" my mom, I just stopped. maybe the fact that you hope
something good can come out of it actually makes something good come out of it
because I used to pray all the time, for God to keep my family safe, let them live
long lives... and you know, my mom got hers cut short, and I've cursed Him
numerous times for that reason.

but every now and then, I pray. I don't know if He'll still hear me out after I've stopped caring or acknoledging his existence
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September 5th, 2007 at 12:10am
Green Day!:
Yes, god definately hears you & praying totally helps, it gives you more confindence
When I prayed before my math exam, i got confident, & I studied real hard & I got 100% on my math exam Very Happy
Pray
Some people don't believe in god, but i think everyone should believe in god
Mr. Green

I'd say you got 100% on your math exam because you studied hard and relaxed, rather than getting uptight and worried.

The way I see it, people say that sometimes, when your prayers aren't answered, it's because God doesn't think it's best.
I see that as an excuse, really. When something you want happens, it's because of God. When it doesn't, it's because God doesn't think it's wise.
It can be twisted and portrayed however you want. Dno
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September 6th, 2007 at 12:35am
Maybe, but why does that mean it's not worth debating? *shrug* I like religious discussions.
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September 6th, 2007 at 04:40pm
lyrical_mess:
Anji:
lmfao Godot.


um...?
I've had a 'Godot' moment.

I don't know who else here has studied 'Waiting for Godot' by Samuel Beckett, raised by Catholics in Ireland, but ended up an atheist and wrote this existentialist play in French. One of the hardest things I've ever done. Anyway, I was reading through all these posts about prayer, and waiting for God to answer them and I had what my old English teacher used to call a 'Godot moment' where you have to laugh at the absurdity of all this waiting, and for what? No one here truely knows. Well, some do, others think that those people don't however, and then those people, they haven't got the slightest clue.

What do we wait for? We wait for nothing, everything, we wait for waiting, death, the afterlife? Who knows. And God? He's a (By the way, I don't actually mean this, I'm advocating for Samuel Beckett in this part so you understand what I mean by 'Godot moment'.) human construct. Life is all just a stochastic maze where alleatory explains all, only because we need it to. To understand life, existance, we need others to validate it. That's why when prisoners of war are placed in confinement, you think it's a rather simple method of extraction of information of torture or discipline but it's Hell. There is no one to make contanct with, you can't see, hear, smell, taste anything. Everything becomes one blur, and you don't know if anything exists. If you don't know that anything exists, how do you know you exist?

We need others to validate our existance and for some people this other person is God. But of course, when it comes down to it, God is a human construct to validate our existance just like North and South, up and down, left, right, minutes, hours, evening, day, and possibly good and bad? This is why many astronauts go mad in space because they are in a timeless, non-directional place. They realise that everything they know to be truth and fact is actually just human construct to define our lives, like our age, our home, our race, everything we know ourselves to be, it's only the way it is, because we've made it that way.

And if you think about it, all these things that were made to give us comfort, only end up giving us pain, like religion, wealth, race, etc.

There's this pajorative sturggle that we have given to ourselves in life, and in the end, and now I'm being alleatory, but it ends up being absurd, truely absurd.

Funney, eh? (Sarcasm is included in the latter sentence if you didn't understand anything I had previously said.)
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September 7th, 2007 at 01:52am
ree-ee-annan:
I'm an Atheist, so no, i don't think praying works.
You make your own way in this world, you get lucky, you make your own sucess.
Praying doesn't do it for you.


''you get lucky''


well couldn't that possibly be divine intervention. Athiest basically believe in the same thing we do, that some things you have no control over. No difference really, we just like the idea of fluffy clouds and halo's. puts an image to the thought. Very Happy
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September 7th, 2007 at 02:00am
i think praying works in the believes' hearts... the important is that who believes in god belives in praying
but i'm atheist.....
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September 12th, 2007 at 04:33pm
Yes, I do.

And don't expect me to justify myself here, I answered the question and that's it.
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September 13th, 2007 at 03:47pm
SUPERSONiC.:

And don't expect me to justify myself here, I answered the question and that's it.
Specific Discussion. Coolio
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September 18th, 2007 at 12:53pm
I remember reading somewhere when I was little a conversation between two people about praying. I can't remember the exact wording, but it went something like this;
"If there is a God, and He does have a power of sorts over us, why hasn't he put a stop to all the wars, poverty and damage we're doing to the planet?"
" Do you have a child?"
"Yes... How's that relevant?"
"Well, have you ever given them something you knew they could potentially hurt themselves with? A skateboard, or rollerblades perhaps?"
"Yes."
"And did you take it away from them when they hurt themselves?"
"No, I just kept a close eye on them because I knew they were still having fun."
"So how do you know God's not jsut doing that?"

Now, at the time, I remember thinking, "Wow, that makes total sense!", but then I got older and thought about it some more and it was like, "Well, if the child does enough damage then the parent would definately take the toy away from them!"

So why would God have not intervened by now?
(I know this isn't technically related to praying, but I thought it might strike up some discussion Wink)
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