Americans to Be Tortured for not showing ID?

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RPattz
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November 17th, 2006 at 05:10pm
"A horror video that wouldn't look out of place in Maoist China or Nazi Germany shows a student being repeatedly shot with a stun gun by UCLA police for the crime of not showing his ID. As similar cases begin to pile up how long will it be before Americans are routinely tortured for noncompliance and refusing to have their 4th amendment violated?..."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106torturedid.htm

I was extremely distressed watching this video, it makes me think... is this what it has come to?
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November 17th, 2006 at 05:19pm
no, it is a very rare case that something like this happens
yes, it has something to do with racism (I didn't see the person, just their name...

no, this person did not cooperate, before they tazered him he was yelling, "don't fucking touch me" which they had every right to do
I don't really know why they wanted his ID, since it would make the police look less corupt to include that information, we may never know why they wanted to know

well, college security is pretty strict

overall, this one incident, if you're asked for your ID cooperate for Christ's sake

but yes, police are abusing the right for tazers (even though most deaths are because the person is high to begin with

overall:
-this incident, the person was yelling at them, acting like a hippie, they weren't tortured, the cops had no evidence showing innocence and certainly they victim was acting like an innocent man
it goes back to when that bipolar guy ran around a plane and said he had a bomb, the police had every right to shoot him even though he was innocent, no one made a mistake, it was an inevetable freak accident

-most of the times people die is because they have plenty of drugs in their system...
that also goes back to the guy who lived near me, he ran at cops with a boxcutter
he had enough cocaine in his system that it took twenty-one bullets to bring him down
drugs and cops don't mix, drugs and college dorm parties do

-police probably have more authority than anyone in the U.S.
the president has plenty of checks and balances to weigh him (hopefully "her" once we get a female candidate who isn't Clinton or Rice) down
but police can get away with a lot
think back to Rodney King
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November 17th, 2006 at 07:02pm
i think what the cops did was way excessive, tazering a man whoes just lying on the floor, whats the point?
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November 17th, 2006 at 08:19pm
I think that tazering him laying on the ground was just a precaution to make sure he wasn't able to move.
But at the same time, as highly trained as our police forces say they are, don't you think that maybe they would have known that one or two was enough? I don't think repeated tazering was necessary.
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November 17th, 2006 at 08:44pm
[QUOTE="Tréat that age, and showing that much resistance, I don't think one or two would be enough

I've been tazered (by someone who stole the tazer from a cop) and it just knocked me to the ground for a few seconds

I was very shaken, but I could have easily reached into my pocket, grabbed my knife, and stabbed him before he could figure out how to work it (he wasn't trained, considering they don't train people who steal tazers form cops....and thank God, he dropped out of high school
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November 19th, 2006 at 08:08pm
ok i really dont want to watch that.
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November 20th, 2006 at 10:47am
[[your mom was here]]:
ok i really dont want to watch that.
you can't see anything
just a cop yelling, and some kid yelling some hippie stuff back
you can see a bookshelf and that's about it
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November 20th, 2006 at 11:09am
spill_no_sick:
[[your mom was here]]:
ok i really dont want to watch that.
you can't see anything
just a cop yelling, and some kid yelling some hippie stuff back
you can see a bookshelf and that's about it

You say hippie like its a bad thing.

Albeit, he should have just shown his ID.
Forcing other people to be violent to you is almost as bad as being violent yourself.
"Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f---ing abuse of power."
That was uneccesary. So was tasering him, but you know, he could have avoided that.

Overall, an unfortunate situation which could have been avoided.
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November 25th, 2006 at 12:53pm
i thought this topic was going to be more serious.
this was an avoidable, one off situation where both parties acted like idiots.

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November 26th, 2006 at 04:07pm
Bloodraine:
spill_no_sick:
[[your mom was here]]:
ok i really dont want to watch that.
you can't see anything
just a cop yelling, and some kid yelling some hippie stuff back
you can see a bookshelf and that's about it

You say hippie like its a bad thing.

Albeit, he should have just shown his ID.
Forcing other people to be violent to you is almost as bad as being violent yourself.
"Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f---ing abuse of power."
That was uneccesary. So was tasering him, but you know, he could have avoided that.

Overall, an unfortunate situation which could have been avoided.
there are different types of hippies
You and Sam are definately the good kind, the kind that is more liberal: you want to further the human race for the better...the "John Lennon" hippie if you will

then there is this idiot
cops are trained to be hardasses because they meet situations where they have to be, do you think a terrorist would just say, "dammit, I have no ID, cuff me"
no, they would do just what this kid did

he's a complete fucking idiot, trying to turn something inevitable into a protest (the "high school dropout hippie" if you will. They protest what is not to protest. Like Eminem, Kanye West...and yes, even Green Day can fit into this category

so yeah, both parties were wrong
violence is bad
provoking it is much, much worse (especially since the cop wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't assume the worst
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