Talking about religious figures in school.

*I apologize if there is a topic similar, i did search for one but i thought this could be different.


Ok, in history we have talked about Jesus and Muhammad. Only as people and what they accomplished, nothing about the Bible or Qu'ran with the exception of who wrote it and when it was written. My friend thinks our teacher is ''trying to make us all atheists because he doesn't tell us the other side of the story". What other side is there? Our teacher has only explained that in the past religion was used to manipulate people. This friend believes he has taken it too far and is basically talking shit about Christinaity. Personally, i have no problem with learning what we have. Only because i know what we have been taught are facts.

My question, should this be taught in schools [mind you this a public school]? Its sure to offend many people. They obviously played important roles in creating to major groups of people.

sorry about the shitty spelling/grammar

I believe things like that should be taught, but reffered to as 'theory', just like it's called 'The Theory of Evolution'.
How is talking about Jesus and Muhammad an attempt to turn you into atheists??
It's a tad bias saying that religion was used purely to manipulate people, but I guess points of view like that depend on the sort of school you go to.

well when he means manipulate, he talking about things like the Inquisition. My teacher's motto is "people in power want to remain in power; people in control want to stay in control". An we aren't talking about things from the Bible itself. We are talking about his life and death. Nothing more than that. But this kid still thinks that he is trying to shoot down the religion. He has brought up that these holy wars fought for God are going against things Jesus and Muhammad taught, like love your neighbor. It's true though in during the Crusades christinans murdered thousands of people for control of Jerusalem. Is it wrong for that to be explained? or that still "taking it too far"

In my school, it's not allowed to speak of religion. I think that's a good idea. There's too many different religions and beliefs to bother with it, because someone will always get offended.

But as for using religious groups in history (Nazis, the Crusades, etc) I don't really mind. I personally don't believe in religion, but I don't mind learning about how religion affected history.

Anyway, no matter what your opinion on this topic is, I think someone will get offended. People just need to get over it and realize everyone thinks different.

rehabreject:

I believe things like that should be taught, but reffered to as 'theory', just like it's called 'The Theory of Evolution'.
How is talking about Jesus and Muhammad an attempt to turn you into atheists??
It's a tad bias saying that religion was used purely to manipulate people, but I guess points of view like that depend on the sort of school you go to.

After my Theory of Knowlegde classes, I have decided that evolution is no longer a theory. It should not be theory anymore, but fact because it has countless times been proven true and I have seen it with my own eyes. You can be ignorant and pretend it doesn't exist, but that in no way defies the Bible and if anything, evolution and Christianity can co-exist in harmony as well as a few other religions. Some religions do not believe it but they are wrong and refuse to accept it.

Veritas:

In my school, it's not allowed to speak of religion. I think that's a good idea. There's too many different religions and beliefs to bother with it, because someone will always get offended.

But as for using religious groups in history (Nazis, the Crusades, etc) I don't really mind. I personally don't believe in religion, but I don't mind learning about how religion affected history.

Anyway, no matter what your opinion on this topic is, I think someone will get offended. People just need to get over it and realize everyone thinks different.

The only people who will get offended are the people who refuse to accept that others will think differently. And if you can't do that, you may as well be removed from society.

It should definately be taught in public school, well, not taught, but definately talked. Obviously Jewish, Catholic, Islamic schools aren't going to teach anything of the sort, but that's to be accepted since presumably all the people there are only of one faith anyway.

I beliebe that your friend needs to get thicker skin really soon. Many historical events really could have been easily prevented if there wasn't religion.

As for talking about religion in schools, I'm all for it. I wouldn't be surpirsed if my school was 99.999% Christian, and a lot of kids would get offended talking about other religions. We don't talk about other religions, and when these kids go to college (which about half of them won't), they'll be in for a rude awakening. We need to talk about religions, even if other people don't believe them. People need to know that there are vast numbers of religions.

If a teacher goes on and on about one religion, whether the story behind it or just the characters, but then brushes over others, the teacher should at least get a stern talking to. I, personally, believe in religious equality whole-heartedly.

Ha, we do it all the time at my school.......but that's because I go to a Catholic school. We can talk about God and Jesus, and no one can stop us! In fact they encourage it. But, hey, talk about any religious figure you want. I don't care if you jewish, muslim or catholic. You can talk about anyone you want to.

I dont think religeion should be alowed in schools because it influences bullying, look at the all catholic schools and then the mixed. All of fighting.

I've got family thats catholic, but i myself have been accused of catholic bashing... I dont why I was picked on by it... Im a christian so to speak and I dont mind if anyone is muslim or not but if people want to stop secterianisim. Get rid of the catholic schools and let everyone battle it out, everyone gets tired agyer a while

missand:

I dont think religeion should be alowed in schools because it influences bullying, look at the all catholic schools and then the mixed. All of fighting.

Catholic schools are no worse than any other school for bullying. Do you realise how much more damage refusing people the right to practice their religion would be?

Anji:

It should definately be taught in public school, well, not taught, but definately talked. Obviously Jewish, Catholic, Islamic schools aren't going to teach anything of the sort, but that's to be accepted since presumably all the people there are only of one faith anyway.

What, no talking about religious figures?

Nah, we've studied lots of Christian ones at my school. Its part of the syllabus and stuff.

I was going to make a huge post here
but if you're in the U.S. you get off easy in here
our education system is corrupt and once this country realizes that it is no longer a world power then we will model an education system off of a better country (probably Great Britain because I doubt we would go with a Chinese or Japanese system(

but we will base our education on oversensitivity so it doesn't really matter what you say, they won't listen

If I had my way, there'd be no more religion at all. Look at all the conflicts it causes, and how much of it is obviously wrong.

do we really need yet another religion thread? Search for Religion in this forum and then search Religious in this forum. There is a bunch of threads.... *shrugs*

Bloodraine:

Anji:

It should definately be taught in public school, well, not taught, but definately talked. Obviously Jewish, Catholic, Islamic schools aren't going to teach anything of the sort, but that's to be accepted since presumably all the people there are only of one faith anyway.

What, no talking about religious figures?

Nah, we've studied lots of Christian ones at my school. Its part of the syllabus and stuff.

Other religious figures. They're usually at those schools to freely practice their religion. My family was an exception.

I don't believe it should be taught from a religious point of view, but an informative. Why shouldn't kids learn about other peoples believes and cultures? Thats why we have intollerant people, they never learned to accept others, and religion plays a part in that. Most kids learn about Greek and Roman mythology, that was a religion. Does that mean its insulting to thier own? Nope, it just broadens their education making them smarter.

StAttic6:

If I had my way, there'd be no more religion at all. Look at all the conflicts it causes, and how much of it is obviously wrong.

Well that's really close minded. Religion means a lot to a lot of people. Just because some people have used religion as a reason to do bad things doesn't mean every single religious person is a bad person. So many people rely on their god to guide them and get them through bad times.

Someone I work with, she used to do drugs and drink and was in with the wrong crowd. Then one day she started believing in god, and through that, it made her want to become a better person.

Religion and Politics have gone hand in hand for such a long time that it is important to know as much about both as possible just in case you have to deal with other people. What I dislike is when teachers try to persuade students to go in one direction or other for their religious beliefs instead of letting students decide for themselves with a non-ignorant understanding of what they are doing.

This is kinda off topic, but my sister and I were mostly taught as Buddhists and we prayed to Buddha and stuff as children and when my sister was five and I was eight we were enrolled in Catholic school, being the cheapest school available, I was sick the first week of school but my sister went and came back home talling stories about how everyone was 'praying to a woman Buddha' who had a 'pile of clothes in her arms'. I cracked up since I actually knew about Christianity whereas my sister probably had forgotten any previous time we had been to curch. My family still bring up that story because it is just hilarious. A 'woman Buddha'.