Sexting

Bloodraine:

Sorry, but if people want to make porn videos involving chocolate bars, nobody has any right to stop them.
Providing that they are a consenting adult it is all a matter free will, and as far as I'm concerned, up to the individual. Just because some may find it distasteful is no reason to remove all camera phones.

In any case, stopping camera phones wouldn't prevent pornography or this 'sexting' business. Banning phones would never work, anyway. Hello, black market. And no phone company would want to do it, look at the money they would lose. People want these things. It's supply and demand.

It isn't a porn move, it was a picture. She was 16, my apologies for not mentioning that.
I'm going to stress again, I'm not saying they SHOULD BE BANNED. I'm saying I think it would be useful, obviously it won't happen because like you said supply and demand.

No phone company would do it, sure. Why would they? But they shops have every right to take stock from their shelves and like I said, it didn't last because once the hype of it ended, the phones came back.

Ravers Fantasy:

I'm going to stress again, I'm not saying they SHOULD BE BANNED. I'm saying I think it would be useful, obviously it won't happen because like you said supply and demand.

There really isn't much difference between you saying 'they should be banned' and 'I think they should be banned'. It all comes down to that word 'should'. I'm going to criticise it nontheless, whether it's what you personally think or not, because I think it's a really bad idea. If you don't think they should be banned, but you personally think...how does that even work? It's pretty confusing.

Bloodraine:

Ravers Fantasy:

I'm going to stress again, I'm not saying they SHOULD BE BANNED. I'm saying I think it would be useful, obviously it won't happen because like you said supply and demand.

There really isn't much difference between you saying 'they should be banned' and 'I think they should be banned'. It all comes down to that word 'should'. I'm going to criticise it nontheless, whether it's what you personally think or not, because I think it's a really bad idea. If you don't think they should be banned, but you personally think...how does that even work? It's pretty confusing.

What i mean by that is - thoughts can be altered and to me, a thought is a practice of trial and error. By saying I think they should be banned, I'm suggesting a trial and error practice to witness the outcome.

By saying they should be banned, I'd mean that my suggestion is factual. That I already know the outcome.

But I don't already know the outcome of banning a picture phone, as I was too young to understand the reaction of an adult when they were first taken off shelves here in Cork.

It is confusing, I'll admit that myself. I tend to be very confusing, my psychology and sociology lecturers told me I'd give any psychologist a run for their money, so there's no harm done in asking me what I mean.


I'd like to see myself how society would react to the picture phone been taken away. It's a rule here in all schools that picture phones are not allowed on the premises at all. But that's just a quirk I have with wanting to take away the luxories of society and analyse their reactions.


And getting back on topic, has anyone heard of this case? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491624,00.html
I'm not American so I'm not actually aware of the cases you guys deal with.

Ravers Fantasy:

Macfadyen , there was no need to sound so sarcastically rude about it. I was just giving my input.

I said that's why I think they should be banned I didn't say They should be banned. There's a fine lined difference between what I meant and what you're assuming - thoughts can change depending on circumstances.

Right. And I was giving mine. I'm pretty sure my comment made my position pretty obvious.

Also: No, I was correct in assuming you think they should be banned. There is effectively no difference between those two statements; "they should" is opinionated.

why is there this whole discussion about phones being banned?

Let people do what they want. They have to know they take a risk when they do this. Everytime you go outside, you have a risk of tripping and injuring yourself. Maybe we should think that walking should be banned. catch my drift?

Bleach:

Let people do what they want.

Well, in this case what people want to do is take pornographic images of underage boys and girls... we can't really allow people to do that.

Kurtni:

Ravers Fantasy:

Honestly i think this is why all picture taking phones should be taken off the market. Not only do they allow images as discussed here to be circulated, they also provide for 'Peeping Tom's' to avail of picture taking their prey and any old So-Joe could be taking a picture of you on the bus to edit onto a pornographic movie.

That's completely absurd. Should we ban cameras too? They do the same thing. Just because some people misuse a device is no reason to ban it.

I have to agree with Kurtni. It's like saying "Oh, well, since a select few people on GSB spam threads a lot, we should just take away the message board from everyone...that way we won't have to worry anymore."

That's how I'm seeing this....

Any porn is illegal.
And I do believe this counts as porn and I mean what if you chat with tons of ppl and your friends and what if your friend's parents get ahold of the pictures on the computer or that person's cell phone they can go to jail for looking at porn.

Kurtni:

Bleach:

Let people do what they want.

Well, in this case what people want to do is take pornographic images of underage boys and girls... we can't really allow people to do that.

but isn't it of themselves? it's not like other people are taking the pictures

The Princess of Punk:

Any porn is illegal.
And I do believe this counts as porn and I mean what if you chat with tons of ppl and your friends and what if your friend's parents get ahold of the pictures on the computer or that person's cell phone they can go to jail for looking at porn.

Porn isn't illegal where I live. It was legalized in like the 70's here..
Stuff like child pornography is illegal though. Where do you live since it's illegal?

Bleach:

Kurtni:

Bleach:

Let people do what they want.

Well, in this case what people want to do is take pornographic images of underage boys and girls... we can't really allow people to do that.

but isn't it of themselves? it's not like other people are taking the pictures

That's the thing though, people can take naked pictures of other people than themselves. There was a huuge deal about whether or not children should turn their phones in before they went to have PE because they might film/take pictures of people being in the shower without them knowing and sending it to other people.

I once got sent an image of a man's downstaris, I laughed for like half-an hour

The Princess of Punk:

Any porn is illegal.

No, no it is not.

to me; the fact that the problem is getting so bad they actually have to get law enforcements involved is ridiculous. wanna see someone naked? do it in person obv (LOL)

i think thts ok if ur like over 18 and ur sending it ONLY to ur bf or hubby or something. But why would you do it, i mean are that desperate that you need to send a text containing a nude pic of yerrself?

We had to have an assembly about it in school, and it was epic bullshit. Our assistant principal who was talking didn't know what he was talking about and got called out on contradicting himself a ton of times.

Honestly the whole thing is stupid. For somebody to be labeled as a sex offender for the rest of their lives because at 16 they took a naked picture of themselves and sent it to their boyfriend is absurd. There's bigger issues regarding sex, especially with youth. At my high school, there's about 6 girls who are pregnant right now, many of them are sophomores. Our school isn't holding assemblies about safe sex, but sexting, now that's insane.

The fact of the matter is, most people don't know the law, or the proposed laws, and that's sad. People are making a bigger deal out of it than they should be, and there are other things that need to be focused on.

And the case where that girl killed herself, people are being insane about it. If somebody was depressed enough to hang themselves, she had deep issues before she sent a naked picture to her boyfriend that got around the school. I realize that's coming off differently than I mean it, but I don't know how else to word it. <_< It's obviously an incredibly tragic, but people are placing the blame entirely on one thing, when that's not the whole story.

i don't think porn is a big deal at all.
at least it's a mere picture instead of the actual act of sex. I mean, as far as sexting goes it could potentially lead to sex but really. it's all talk, no action. so whatevaa.

Bleach:

Kurtni:

Bleach:

Let people do what they want.

Well, in this case what people want to do is take pornographic images of underage boys and girls... we can't really allow people to do that.

but isn't it of themselves? it's not like other people are taking the pictures

Not always, sometimes it's of other kids. I remember watching some thing on Oprah a few months ago about some girls whose "friends" took pictures of them in the shower or changing at a sleepover and texted them to people all over school because they didn't like them. It's not always of themselves.

hannakay:

i don't think porn is a big deal at all.
at least it's a mere picture instead of the actual act of sex. I mean, as far as sexting goes it could potentially lead to sex but really. it's all talk, no action. so whatevaa.

I think people are better off taking naked pictures of themselves than having sex. There's more risks with actual sex. I'd rather have a topless picture follow me around forever than have a kid at 18.

The major problem I see with this is that people are just seeking punishments, nobody is bothering with why it's happening or what can be done to help. Slapping somebody with a lawsuit for receiving a picture message isn't going to stop people from taking pornographic pictures of themselves.