Supermodels as rolemodels.

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November 20th, 2007 at 08:26pm
I have a public speaking competition coming up and this is the topic I got.

At the start I was all "No way, Supermodels are a bad influence" but now doing research on it, I have started to change my views.

What do you think about this? Do you think supermodels are positive or negative rolemodels?

I'll post my speech when I have it written up. (:

Have fun debating!
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November 20th, 2007 at 08:52pm
Ban on Skinny Models thread

This isnt' an exact duplicate, but some people might find that thread useful to help them post. Con

I think that someones profession doesn't determine if they're a good rolemodel or not; it's all about their character. I mean, you can look at any kind of celebrity, not just models, and see the same things. Some rockstars are seen doing hardcore drugs all the time, drinking, partying and setting an unrealistic image for kids. Then, you have some that don't, some that use their stance to try and improve the world. The same is true for models.

My example will be dita Coffee
I love how she doesn't throw mainstream fashions in peoples faces; she does her own retro-thing. Encouraging individuality is something I think a good rolemodel should do. She is also involved in the Viva La Glam campaign to donate money to help fight aids in Africa. She holds herself with a confidence that alot of teenage girls don't have, alot of girls feel like they can't be themselves and that they can't make a difference in the world. As a hardcore Dita idolizer, I can assure you she is very motivating. =]
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November 22nd, 2007 at 12:01pm
I personally don't like modelling because it must be one of the most boring reasons to be famous. All you do is be photographed. You're only known for your face. Like...an incarnation of the Mona Lisa. I mean, it's a job and (probably) most of them love to do it but I couldn't do it. Well, I couldn't even if I was pretty and non-Slitheen looking. I'd get bored.

Anyway, the whole industry's reputation is really bad thanks to a few individuals (...Naomi...Kate...) who screw up the way the public percieve models. I know (Okay...I am guessing but it's an educated one. Sort of.) that many models are nice, normal people but there is a difference in the modelling world.

Like...a ravine. No...um...I mean there are different 'groups' and types of models. They'll be utterly shallow ones and wonderful, generous ones. Just can't take anyone at face value.

So, there are some models that would be good rolemodels and some that would be awful. Just like singers, actors and every other person you can think of.

[/weird contradicting ramble]
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November 22nd, 2007 at 03:50pm
Herr Doktor:
All you do is be photographed. You're only known for your face.
I disagree.
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November 22nd, 2007 at 10:47pm
Kurtni:
Herr Doktor:
All you do is be photographed. You're only known for your face.
I disagree.
Just stating my opinion on the matter.

I have been thinking over this and there is a lot more to being photographed. You have to act as well if it's an advert.

But I still think that about the majority of models. I mean, unless they act out in some way (Either in a negative or positive way) many of their names couldn't really be dropped.
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November 23rd, 2007 at 07:18pm
I never looked at supermodels as rolemodels.neither positive nor negative.If they don't have a crazy lifestyle always on the front page of newspapers not many people know what they do except modelling.
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November 23rd, 2007 at 11:09pm
At first I hated modeling, fashion and everything that had to do with it. I thought it was the stupidest thing that ever existed.

But I don't think that way anymore to be honest. I started to get interested in fashion. Models don't have to be necessary bad role models, it depends on the person. I wont say that I would never have one as my role model because I get inspired in a second with surprising things, but I wouldn't have one because of her looks or thinness.
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November 24th, 2007 at 11:13am
tbh I think models get judged too hard at times. their job is to look good, not to be perfect in every direction.. Coolio

and yeah, I mean, I think kids are smart enough to not copy the drug habits, but the style of kate moss or whoever Dno

so she can be your role model for fashion but you like jkfhkf for jkfjkgh Dance
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November 24th, 2007 at 11:48am
I think that models are in some ways, good rolemodels. They can encourage girls/boys to take pride in their appearances. Some of you are going to be all like, "But the anorexia!" but no. Don't bother. I can't be bothered getting into that particular debate because it never ends.
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November 26th, 2007 at 07:24am
...who even has a model as their role model? Besides those scene kids who would shoot their own face off to be a 'Scene Queen'

Let me say that comment, and enter the debate.

As it's been said, models can be role models. I don't think they should be role models just because they are models. I've written a blog on this before, how can you idolise someone for standing in front of a camera?

However, if it's for their personality, and their views on life than that is good! However most models don't have a personality that the public know other than having a pretty face (Once again other than Scene Queens Rolling Eyes and still, someone can be totally different over a computer screen) although you do hear about some side projects model do.

So at the end of the day it depends on the person and not their chosen profession.

And yeah, I agree with Tokyo Hardcore. No 'anorexic' debates please, that argument just out of desperation and ignorance.
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November 26th, 2007 at 08:20pm
Fashion Zombies!:
...who even has a model as their role model? Besides those scene kids who would shoot their own face off to be a 'Scene Queen'
...Me Coolio
Tokyo Hardcore:
I think that models are in some ways, good rolemodels. They can encourage girls/boys to take pride in their appearances. Some of you are going to be all like, "But the anorexia!" but no. Don't bother. I can't be bothered getting into that particular debate because it never ends.

Yeah, its a useless debate at that. Its extremely stereotypical to just think "model-anorexia" as well.
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November 27th, 2007 at 02:40am
I've modeled, and there's a lot more involved than just a "pretty face". I can't speak for the rest of the industry, but the models I've worked with and talked to are actually very down to earth and balanced.

At the end of the day, it depends on the person. You'll find models who are the worst role models possible, and you'll find models who could be amazing role models. It depends on the person, and their morals and beliefs and how they present themselves to the public and less on their profession.
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November 27th, 2007 at 06:57am
Kurtni:
Fashion Zombies!:
...who even has a model as their role model? Besides those scene kids who would shoot their own face off to be a 'Scene Queen'
...Me Coolio


Oh okay, I didn't mean that in an insulting way. Razz It's actually just pretty rare of people actually having models as role models but there's nothing wrong with it really.
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November 27th, 2007 at 10:50am
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've modeled, and there's a lot more involved than just a "pretty face". I can't speak for the rest of the industry, but the models I've worked with and talked to are actually very down to earth and balanced.

At the end of the day, it depends on the person. You'll find models who are the worst role models possible, and you'll find models who could be amazing role models. It depends on the person, and their morals and beliefs and how they present themselves to the public and less on their profession.

For argument's sake I'll say this; I too have done modelling and to be honest, the younger, more inexperienced models were down to earth and balanced, but the ones who'd had much more work were bitchy, acted superior and in some cases downright nasty. In my opinion, just being in the industry can have a bad effect on a model's personality.
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November 27th, 2007 at 05:07pm
I was a child model! Yeah, no clue why, I was an ugly kid.
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November 27th, 2007 at 08:20pm
Anji:
I was a child model! Yeah, no clue why, I was an ugly kid.
oh stfu, you're pretty now, you were pretty then Hand
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November 28th, 2007 at 01:23am
Kurtni:
Anji:
I was a child model! Yeah, no clue why, I was an ugly kid.
oh stfu, you're pretty now, you were pretty then Hand
I agree! Five
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November 28th, 2007 at 01:25am
Tokyo Hardcore:
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've modeled, and there's a lot more involved than just a "pretty face". I can't speak for the rest of the industry, but the models I've worked with and talked to are actually very down to earth and balanced.

At the end of the day, it depends on the person. You'll find models who are the worst role models possible, and you'll find models who could be amazing role models. It depends on the person, and their morals and beliefs and how they present themselves to the public and less on their profession.

For argument's sake I'll say this; I too have done modelling and to be honest, the younger, more inexperienced models were down to earth and balanced, but the ones who'd had much more work were bitchy, acted superior and in some cases downright nasty. In my opinion, just being in the industry can have a bad effect on a model's personality.
I couldn't speak as to the disposition of the younger models, I didn't work with any of them. But the ones I did work with, who were seventeen, eighteen years old, were quite nice and when we went out with friends of theirs, (also models) those kids were extremely well-balanced and nice.

I think it really depends on a person's support system. If they've got people to keep them grounded, they'll do fine, I think.
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November 28th, 2007 at 11:13am
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
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Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've modeled, and there's a lot more involved than just a "pretty face". I can't speak for the rest of the industry, but the models I've worked with and talked to are actually very down to earth and balanced.

At the end of the day, it depends on the person. You'll find models who are the worst role models possible, and you'll find models who could be amazing role models. It depends on the person, and their morals and beliefs and how they present themselves to the public and less on their profession.

For argument's sake I'll say this; I too have done modelling and to be honest, the younger, more inexperienced models were down to earth and balanced, but the ones who'd had much more work were bitchy, acted superior and in some cases downright nasty. In my opinion, just being in the industry can have a bad effect on a model's personality.
I couldn't speak as to the disposition of the younger models, I didn't work with any of them. But the ones I did work with, who were seventeen, eighteen years old, were quite nice and when we went out with friends of theirs, (also models) those kids were extremely well-balanced and nice.

I think it really depends on a person's support system. If they've got people to keep them grounded, they'll do fine, I think.

Yeah, a lot of the ones I worked with were around that age. When I said 'older' I'm talking mid 20's. I'm hazarding a guess, but I'd say they were the ones who moved to 'the big city' and did it on their own because they were incredibly cliquey with each other, but never had anyone else with them like a lot of us did.
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November 28th, 2007 at 01:14pm
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
Tokyo Hardcore:
Ol' Blue Eyes.:
I've modeled, and there's a lot more involved than just a "pretty face". I can't speak for the rest of the industry, but the models I've worked with and talked to are actually very down to earth and balanced.

At the end of the day, it depends on the person. You'll find models who are the worst role models possible, and you'll find models who could be amazing role models. It depends on the person, and their morals and beliefs and how they present themselves to the public and less on their profession.

For argument's sake I'll say this; I too have done modelling and to be honest, the younger, more inexperienced models were down to earth and balanced, but the ones who'd had much more work were bitchy, acted superior and in some cases downright nasty. In my opinion, just being in the industry can have a bad effect on a model's personality.
I couldn't speak as to the disposition of the younger models, I didn't work with any of them. But the ones I did work with, who were seventeen, eighteen years old, were quite nice and when we went out with friends of theirs, (also models) those kids were extremely well-balanced and nice.

I think it really depends on a person's support system. If they've got people to keep them grounded, they'll do fine, I think.
As far as I know, there are some young models who depend on their "relationship" with the photographers, or the director to be photographed and appear on magazines, not on their beauty or talent for acting. And those inexperienced models sometimes are not even paid money, all their rewards are just the appearance on magazines and a little of what they consider "fame", but they still seem to be attracted by these.
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