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January 26th, 2007 at 12:54am
Opheliac_666:
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I think smoking is a personal choice, and if someone makes that choice, they should deal with the consequences.

And respect people who don't smoke by not smoking aorund them.


That's kind of a hard thing to do when there's like 83736736271829828373674647383837873 people in the world and you're a heavy smoker.
I know I don't do that though, whenever I smoke, it's in my room.
I know what you mean, and there are some situations when it's unavoidable.

But most of my guy friends smoke, and when we're in a car together, they roll down the window and blow the smoke out, or just not smoke around me.

Mostly, I just ask for consideration. Don't blow smoke into my face, and I'm fine with it.
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January 27th, 2007 at 12:11am
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car and it relieves depression so I don't commit suicide and die that way.
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January 27th, 2007 at 03:37pm
Smoking is bad for you and because tobbaco is leggalsised as so many people use it does that mean that drugs like cocaine and ecstasy will too become llegal?
I know it is hard for smokers to give up beacause both my parents have recently given up. I was a passive smoker as i spent so much time around them. One thing smokers may not realise is haw much they smell! ( no offence) But they do!
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January 27th, 2007 at 04:29pm
Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car and it relieves depression so I don't commit suicide and die that way.

Do you have statistics to back that up?
Didn't think so.
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January 27th, 2007 at 05:13pm
lilmisssuicidal:
Smoking is bad for you and because tobbaco is leggalsised as so many people use it does that mean that drugs like cocaine and ecstasy will too become llegal?
I know it is hard for smokers to give up beacause both my parents have recently given up. I was a passive smoker as i spent so much time around them. One thing smokers may not realise is haw much they smell! ( no offence) But they do!
Isn't Cocaine And E Already Ilegal? Confused
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January 27th, 2007 at 05:49pm
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Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car and it relieves depression so I don't commit suicide and die that way.

Do you have statistics to back that up?
Didn't think so.


It's common sense.
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January 27th, 2007 at 06:11pm
Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car
Chance of dying from a car accident: 1 in 18,585
Chances of Dying from Smoking 1 in 2-6.
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January 27th, 2007 at 10:14pm
^ That's bullshit.
Hundreds, if not, thousands die from car accidents a day.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:10pm
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Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car
Chance of dying from a car accident: 1 in 18,585
Chances of Dying from Smoking 1 in 2-6.
I love how you completely make up statistics
because that gets you kicked off
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:27pm
In England in 2004/05 there were approximately 1.4 million NHS hospital admissions with a primary diagnosis of a disease that can be related to smoking. This has increased from around 1.1 million admissions in 1995/96.
There were over 10 million hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over in England in 2004/05. Over half a million (559,800) of these admissions are estimated to be attributable to smoking.
In England and Wales in 2004, there were a total of 500,755 deaths of adults aged 35 and over. An estimated 88,800 (18 per cent) of these were caused by smoking, with a larger proportion of men (23 per cent) estimated to die than women (13 per cent) from smoking- related diseases.

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Thats from the National Health Service records. So if you try to argue that smoking is not harmful your living in la la land.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:29pm
spill_no_sick:
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Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car
Chance of dying from a car accident: 1 in 18,585
Chances of Dying from Smoking 1 in 2-6.
I love how you completely make up statistics
because that gets you kicked off
I didn't make those up.
Kicked off where? gsb? fine.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:30pm
Ballroom Blitz:
spill_no_sick:
Ballroom Blitz:
Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car
Chance of dying from a car accident: 1 in 18,585
Chances of Dying from Smoking 1 in 2-6.
I love how you completely make up statistics
because that gets you kicked off
I didn't make those up.
Kicked off where? gsb? fine.


It won't get you kicked off, but we'd like you to state your source. so just put the organisation or website you got it from Very Happy no biggy.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:32pm
NeoSteph:
In England in 2004/05 there were approximately 1.4 million NHS hospital admissions with a primary diagnosis of a disease that can be related to smoking. This has increased from around 1.1 million admissions in 1995/96.
There were over 10 million hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over in England in 2004/05. Over half a million (559,800) of these admissions are estimated to be attributable to smoking.
In England and Wales in 2004, there were a total of 500,755 deaths of adults aged 35 and over. An estimated 88,800 (18 per cent) of these were caused by smoking, with a larger proportion of men (23 per cent) estimated to die than women (13 per cent) from smoking- related diseases.

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Thats from the National Health Service records. So if you try to argue that smoking is not harmful your living in la la land.


I never said it wasn't harmful, I said it's not that harmful. Now find statistics relating too car accidents, there's probabaly the same amount as them that there are smoking related deaths.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:35pm
Opheliac_666:
NeoSteph:
In England in 2004/05 there were approximately 1.4 million NHS hospital admissions with a primary diagnosis of a disease that can be related to smoking. This has increased from around 1.1 million admissions in 1995/96.
There were over 10 million hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over in England in 2004/05. Over half a million (559,800) of these admissions are estimated to be attributable to smoking.
In England and Wales in 2004, there were a total of 500,755 deaths of adults aged 35 and over. An estimated 88,800 (18 per cent) of these were caused by smoking, with a larger proportion of men (23 per cent) estimated to die than women (13 per cent) from smoking- related diseases.

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Thats from the National Health Service records. So if you try to argue that smoking is not harmful your living in la la land.


I never said it wasn't harmful, I said it's not that harmful. Now find statistics relating too car accidents, there's probabaly the same amount as them that there are smoking related deaths.


''Today there are nearly 50,000,000 smokers in the United States, which is nearly 20% of our entire population. 20% of the 42,191 who died in 1998 automobile accidents were smokers, your chances of dying from smoking are 50 times greater than being killed in a car accident. With those kind of odds, why even wear a seatbelt? With 220,000 middle aged smokers dying this year, each an average of 22.5 years early,''


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January 27th, 2007 at 11:36pm
NeoSteph:
It won't get you kicked off, but we'd like you to state your source. so just put the organisation or website you got it from Very Happy no biggy.
1st
and the one about the smoking ones I got it off of my dad's cigarette package which said 2 and I got the 6 off a anti-smoking poster when I was in the states.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:38pm
NeoSteph:
Opheliac_666:
NeoSteph:
In England in 2004/05 there were approximately 1.4 million NHS hospital admissions with a primary diagnosis of a disease that can be related to smoking. This has increased from around 1.1 million admissions in 1995/96.
There were over 10 million hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over in England in 2004/05. Over half a million (559,800) of these admissions are estimated to be attributable to smoking.
In England and Wales in 2004, there were a total of 500,755 deaths of adults aged 35 and over. An estimated 88,800 (18 per cent) of these were caused by smoking, with a larger proportion of men (23 per cent) estimated to die than women (13 per cent) from smoking- related diseases.

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Thats from the National Health Service records. So if you try to argue that smoking is not harmful your living in la la land.


I never said it wasn't harmful, I said it's not that harmful. Now find statistics relating too car accidents, there's probabaly the same amount as them that there are smoking related deaths.


''Today there are nearly 50,000,000 smokers in the United States, which is nearly 20% of our entire population. 20% of the 42,191 who died in 1998 automobile accidents were smokers, your chances of dying from smoking are 50 times greater than being killed in a car accident. With those kind of odds, why even wear a seatbelt? With 220,000 middle aged smokers dying this year, each an average of 22.5 years early,''


oh look
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That had nothing to do with the question or what I just said.
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:40pm
Opheliac_666:
NeoSteph:
Opheliac_666:
NeoSteph:
In England in 2004/05 there were approximately 1.4 million NHS hospital admissions with a primary diagnosis of a disease that can be related to smoking. This has increased from around 1.1 million admissions in 1995/96.
There were over 10 million hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over in England in 2004/05. Over half a million (559,800) of these admissions are estimated to be attributable to smoking.
In England and Wales in 2004, there were a total of 500,755 deaths of adults aged 35 and over. An estimated 88,800 (18 per cent) of these were caused by smoking, with a larger proportion of men (23 per cent) estimated to die than women (13 per cent) from smoking- related diseases.

---

Thats from the National Health Service records. So if you try to argue that smoking is not harmful your living in la la land.


I never said it wasn't harmful, I said it's not that harmful. Now find statistics relating too car accidents, there's probabaly the same amount as them that there are smoking related deaths.


''Today there are nearly 50,000,000 smokers in the United States, which is nearly 20% of our entire population. 20% of the 42,191 who died in 1998 automobile accidents were smokers, your chances of dying from smoking are 50 times greater than being killed in a car accident. With those kind of odds, why even wear a seatbelt? With 220,000 middle aged smokers dying this year, each an average of 22.5 years early,''


oh look
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That had nothing to do with the question or what I just said.


no in an ealier remark you stated that the remark that theirs a higher chanc eof being hit by a car than dying from smoking was ''bullshit''

there's probabaly the same amount as them that there are smoking related deaths.

your chances of dying from smoking are 50 times greater than being killed in a car accident.


how is that not relevant?
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January 27th, 2007 at 11:42pm
Oh I didn't even read that long post...
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January 28th, 2007 at 08:21am
Opheliac_666:
Bloodraine:
Opheliac_666:
I don't think it's that harmful, I mean you've got just as much chances from dying from cigarette smoking than you do getting hit by a car and it relieves depression so I don't commit suicide and die that way.

Do you have statistics to back that up?
Didn't think so.


It's common sense.

No, its called bullshitting. Mr. Green



Smoking and car accidents are totally non-comparable pieces of data. Smokers directly choose to put themselves into a position where they are increasing their likelihood of death. The majority of people in car accidents don't do it willingly.
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January 28th, 2007 at 01:47pm
You always go onto different subject. I'm not talking about the choice of it. I'm just saying it's basically the same number.
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