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February 17th, 2006 at 02:14am
Che Guevara: What do you guys think? Is he a hero or a villian? I know there was a thread in the pictures forum but it got deleted. Personally, I'm conflicted. I know he overthrow a dictator but he also helped install a new one. On the other hand, he was one of the most passionate, sincere and courageous men in history. I know this is a little off topic but I think the people who wear Che Guevara t-shirts are complete posers and would make him turn in his grave.
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February 17th, 2006 at 03:21am
I hate how so many young people wear all the shirts without knowing shit about him. But I must say I admire him for many reasons.
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:22pm
Che ♥


It's SO sad that the CAPITALISTS, like Hot Topic, makes LOADS of money on him. I mean, he deserves better than that!
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:38pm
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Che ♥


It's SO sad that the CAPITALISTS, like Hot Topic, makes LOADS of money on him. I mean, he deserves better than that!

Someone else who understands the irony of Guevara's image being sold through the capitalist free market which he was so against.

I expect many people on here to have no idea of the man behind the montage. I expect some 'supporters' who think they have an idea. I expect very few die-hard Che fans. I expect a strong proportion of people here to have a strong hatred for Guevara. We shall see.
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:43pm
I don't really know that much about him. Please don't hold that against me...
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:44pm
And I don't own a single possesion with him on it Retard
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:50pm
Ohh nevermind, I just asked my dad, and going off what he told me I think it depends on your point of view. If you're more right wing then I think you'll dislike him. If you're more left wing, you'll like him.
I'm more left than right so...yay.
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February 17th, 2006 at 12:54pm
Lexx. Like Woah.:
Ohh nevermind, I just asked my dad, and going off what he told me I think it depends on your point of view. If you're more right wing then I think you'll dislike him. If you're more left wing, you'll like him.

True.

Ask a rightist and they'll probably tell you he was a vicious, heartless killer who got rid of one dictator only to install another. They'll tell you he died a coward.

Ask a leftist and they'll probably tell you tales of great heriocs, a strong minded and brave man who fough for what he believed in. They'll tell you he died a hero.
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February 17th, 2006 at 04:29pm
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Lexx. Like Woah.:
Ohh nevermind, I just asked my dad, and going off what he told me I think it depends on your point of view. If you're more right wing then I think you'll dislike him. If you're more left wing, you'll like him.

True.

Ask a rightist and they'll probably tell you he was a vicious, heartless killer who got rid of one dictator only to install another. They'll tell you he died a coward.

Ask a leftist and they'll probably tell you tales of great heriocs, a strong minded and brave man who fough for what he believed in. They'll tell you he died a hero.
Once again, history is very relative. Not too much is black and white.

From what I know about old Che, he was my kind of guy. That's all I have to say at the mo. Carry on as though I said nothing...which is pretty true.
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February 17th, 2006 at 04:35pm
dirtyhippie:
Once again, history is very relative. Not too much is black and white.

From what I know about old Che, he was my kind of guy. That's all I have to say at the mo. Carry on as though I said nothing...which is pretty true.

Not black and white, no.

But I have actually discussed this man in great depth on another forum previously, and In me experience, he provokes very strong 'for' or 'against' opinions. There is a great deal of evidence for both sides. How this evidence is interpreted, depends on the person.
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February 17th, 2006 at 04:42pm
Bloodraine:
dirtyhippie:
Once again, history is very relative. Not too much is black and white.

From what I know about old Che, he was my kind of guy. That's all I have to say at the mo. Carry on as though I said nothing...which is pretty true.

Not black and white, no.

But I have actually discussed this man in great depth on another forum previously, and In me experience, he provokes very strong 'for' or 'against' opinions. There is a great deal of evidence for both sides. How this evidence is interpreted, depends on the person.
My sentiments exactly. He's like Marx or Reagan or Napolean in that repect, that you either love him or hate him...but it's all relative.
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February 17th, 2006 at 07:07pm
what did he do?
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February 18th, 2006 at 09:39am
I think he's a hero but loads of people have a totally different opnion on him, but I agree about capitalists
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February 18th, 2006 at 10:08am
I don't know much about him, but my friend knitted a jumper with him on rather than buying the actual merchandise. He wears it a lot..
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February 18th, 2006 at 12:48pm
haha, my mate bought this guitar that picture of him on it exclaiming "oh i want that guitar! it has a picture of that guy on it!" He didn't even know his name. However, it is a really nice guitar...its got seymour duncan's in it, looks good, and only £160 i think....
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February 18th, 2006 at 08:51pm
All i know is he's the face of a revolution and has become iconic because a photographer working for a newspaper took a really neat picture of him (something the photographer doesn't own the rights to, jeez i bet he's spinning thinking about the millions he lost)

I also know that i walked past a shop that sold a toaster with his picture on it. part from that I am uneducated about him.
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February 19th, 2006 at 07:10am
Shocked

I'm surpised so many people don't know who Guevara was.
I'd recommend this like. It's a good article, anyway. Worth reading.

http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/guevara01.html
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March 18th, 2006 at 06:15pm
who?
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March 18th, 2006 at 06:18pm
colo(u)r me stupid:
who?

Che Guevara. Obviously. If you don't understand something, do some research. We like people who do research here.
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March 19th, 2006 at 07:18am
colo(u)r me stupid:
who?

It would surely not kill you to click the link I provided above.

Or go to Google and search. Or go to Wikipedia.

See, if there's something I don't understand, I research before posting in a thread. Which makes me seem a lot less ignorant. Cool
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