sometimes it seems to start out as curiosity for a younger boy/girl. then, it can turn into an obsession. almost addictive, to some.
it's stupid, washed up, and fake. if it was a REAL girl posing naked, I'm be amazed. those girls are slathered in diseases and make up. their boobs are implants. and for some reason, most guys are so fucking amazed by it. when all it is is a bunch of fake. fake tits, too much make up, diseases. and if you get, what some call, addicted to it, maybe you expect your significant other to be that "hot" porn star you look at, or the variation of them, which is unethical beyond all reason. and no, I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being serious. my boyfriend drooled over it for a few years of his life, and I am damn sure he's thought about me or might have wanted me to be one of those "hot" girls, with the big tits and the make up and the diseases
and I could be the only girl that has this issue, but still. I'm just stating my valid point.
I don't like it. if it were more realistic, and more about beauty and less about sex, then yes, I might consider it interesting. but I don't think two girls making out is very beautiful. I don't think the past few generations of it is beautiful. it's gross.
I'm sure certain types of porn, maybe way back a century or so ago, of paintings of girls naked was beautiful because it captured them being normal and simple, not spreading their legs apart just to show their vagina. THAT'S the real stuff, the kind I don't mind. I'm not being contradictory, alright? sorry if it might seem like that, but I'm not, and I'm not trying to be. I think the paintings of naked people is beautiful, not the stuff w/ people fucking each other, or posing in some sexual position.
IMO Photographs, Or videos Of 2 or more people engageing in sexual intercourse. Using different Positions[missionary,butterfly ect.] , Different forms of sex[oral, anal, vaginal], not just for straight ,but for bi, gay people also.[Lesbian, Gay, Straight, By]. Sometimes Its actually educational IMO.
Kurtni:
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How do you define the Obscene?
To me really nothing is obscene, Unless it is racial. Sexual content to me isnt really obscene, since later in life the children will learn about it, and they themselves take part in it. Its a part of life. Some people for love, some for feeling, some for the entertainment bussiness[ Porn]. Nothing really much to say about it.
Kurtni:
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What issues or points of interest do you think need to be discussed on this subject.
For one, why do people think porn is so wrong or obscene in the first place? Its people enganging in sexual acts, its nothing bad. Some of you probably do it yourselves. Is it wrong because the people arent dating, or married, or in love? In my eyes saying theres nothing wrong with sex, and it shouldnt be censored, and crap like that, then saying porn is wrong and obscene is contradictory to what your saying. Another thing I'd like to say is some porn is educational. I myself found out about sex, and all of that stuff from porn....although it was at a young age [ 8 years old]. My point is, is that it is quite educational. It actually gives a visual on how to perform the acts instead of just being told how to. You can actually see, which alot of the time works better than words themselves.
sometimes it seems to start out as curiosity for a younger boy/girl. then, it can turn into an obsession. almost addictive, to some.
it's stupid, washed up, and fake. if it was a REAL girl posing naked, I'm be amazed. those girls are slathered in diseases and make up. their boobs are implants. and for some reason, most guys are so fucking amazed by it. when all it is is a bunch of fake. fake tits, too much make up, diseases. and if you get, what some call, addicted to it, maybe you expect your significant other to be that "hot" porn star you look at, or the variation of them, which is unethical beyond all reason. and no, I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being serious. my boyfriend drooled over it for a few years of his life, and I am damn sure he's thought about me or might have wanted me to be one of those "hot" girls, with the big tits and the make up and the diseases
and I could be the only girl that has this issue, but still. I'm just stating my valid point.
I don't like it. if it were more realistic, and more about beauty and less about sex, then yes, I might consider it interesting. but I don't think two girls making out is very beautiful. I don't think the past few generations of it is beautiful. it's gross.
I'm sure certain types of porn, maybe way back a century or so ago, of paintings of girls naked was beautiful because it captured them being normal and simple, not spreading their legs apart just to show their vagina. THAT'S the real stuff, the kind I don't mind. I'm not being contradictory, alright? sorry if it might seem like that, but I'm not, and I'm not trying to be. I think the paintings of naked people is beautiful, not the stuff w/ people fucking each other, or posing in some sexual position.
OMG well said.
That is fucking true and what everyone needs to realize.
For one, why do people think porn is so wrong or obscene in the first place? Its people enganging in sexual acts, its nothing bad. Some of you probably do it yourselves. Is it wrong because the people arent dating, or married, or in love? In my eyes saying theres nothing wrong with sex, and it shouldnt be censored, and crap like that, then saying porn is wrong and obscene is contradictory to what your saying. Another thing I'd like to say is some porn is educational. I myself found out about sex, and all of that stuff from porn....although it was at a young age [ 8 years old]. My point is, is that it is quite educational. It actually gives a visual on how to perform the acts instead of just being told how to. You can actually see, which alot of the time works better than words themselves.
If you really wanted to know about sex, try an encyclopedia or wikipedia. a sex education book.
and no, there is nothing wrong w/ sex. if you're married. sex should be about love, not constantly fucking each others' brains out. or finding as many different positions to fuck in as humanly possible. so if you're so uneducated on this, try looking it up in a book. ya know, books have PICTURES of these things. but I guess, if you really needed that much of a visual, then yes, you could watch porn. but my point is, some think it the greatest thing since sliced bread, and they can obsess w/ it.
sometimes it seems to start out as curiosity for a younger boy/girl. then, it can turn into an obsession. almost addictive, to some.
it's stupid, washed up, and fake. if it was a REAL girl posing naked, I'm be amazed. those girls are slathered in diseases and make up. their boobs are implants. and for some reason, most guys are so fucking amazed by it. when all it is is a bunch of fake. fake tits, too much make up, diseases. and if you get, what some call, addicted to it, maybe you expect your significant other to be that "hot" porn star you look at, or the variation of them, which is unethical beyond all reason. and no, I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being serious. my boyfriend drooled over it for a few years of his life, and I am damn sure he's thought about me or might have wanted me to be one of those "hot" girls, with the big tits and the make up and the diseases
and I could be the only girl that has this issue, but still. I'm just stating my valid point.
I don't like it. if it were more realistic, and more about beauty and less about sex, then yes, I might consider it interesting. but I don't think two girls making out is very beautiful. I don't think the past few generations of it is beautiful. it's gross.
I'm sure certain types of porn, maybe way back a century or so ago, of paintings of girls naked was beautiful because it captured them being normal and simple, not spreading their legs apart just to show their vagina. THAT'S the real stuff, the kind I don't mind. I'm not being contradictory, alright? sorry if it might seem like that, but I'm not, and I'm not trying to be. I think the paintings of naked people is beautiful, not the stuff w/ people fucking each other, or posing in some sexual position.
I'll have to disagree with you Evidently you've been exposed to commercial generic "porn" and therefore seem to think nothing else exists. Don't judge an entire industry based on the little side of it you've seen.
So what if they have fake boobs? People get plastic surgery all the time. If someone was in a car accident and had to have their face reassembled I doubt you'd run up to them and scream "YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE" its the same type of procedure, I see no problem with breast implants and its certainly no reason to make comments like that about someone. I wear make up, as do many people, and I see nothing wrong with that. As for the diseases comment, thats just rude and obviously not true about everyone. You're allowed to have your own opinion of beautiful, but you can't justify a personal preference by degrading the girls who don't fit your stereotype. That kind of defeats the point you were making, doesn't it? You think its wrong for people like your boyfriend to compare "normal" girls to girls involved in porn, but its ok for you to compare them and judge them as fake?
You aren't the only girl with those issues, but it doesn't make them valid points. What I don't get is why you're calling nude paintings from 100 + years ago porn O_O Porn is a deragatory term, refering to obscene things.
If you really wanted to know about sex, try an encyclopedia or wikipedia. a sex education book.
and no, there is nothing wrong w/ sex. if you're married. sex should be about love, not constantly fucking each others' brains out. or finding as many different positions to fuck in as humanly possible. so if you're so uneducated on this, try looking it up in a book. ya know, books have PICTURES of these things. but I guess, if you really needed that much of a visual, then yes, you could watch porn. but my point is, some think it the greatest thing since sliced bread, and they can obsess w/ it.
Well, there is quite a difference between looking in a book and watching something, don't you think? Don't knock other methods until you try them.
What about the people who don't want to get married? Maybe alot of their relatives had horrible divorces and it just isn't for them. And what if they're so passion-driven and in love that they want to have sex alot? O_O is that a crime or something now? And so what if you want to do it creatively? It isn't like we need to regulate the amount of sex people have and how creative they are with it..
And hey, I obsess over animals, baseball and the 1950s, so if someone wants to obsess over porn more power to them :coffeee:
For one, why do people think porn is so wrong or obscene in the first place? Its people enganging in sexual acts, its nothing bad. Some of you probably do it yourselves. Is it wrong because the people arent dating, or married, or in love? In my eyes saying theres nothing wrong with sex, and it shouldnt be censored, and crap like that, then saying porn is wrong and obscene is contradictory to what your saying. Another thing I'd like to say is some porn is educational. I myself found out about sex, and all of that stuff from porn....although it was at a young age [ 8 years old]. My point is, is that it is quite educational. It actually gives a visual on how to perform the acts instead of just being told how to. You can actually see, which alot of the time works better than words themselves.
If you really wanted to know about sex, try an encyclopedia or wikipedia. a sex education book.
and no, there is nothing wrong w/ sex. if you're married. sex should be about love, not constantly fucking each others' brains out. or finding as many different positions to fuck in as humanly possible. so if you're so uneducated on this, try looking it up in a book. ya know, books have PICTURES of these things. but I guess, if you really needed that much of a visual, then yes, you could watch porn. but my point is, some think it the greatest thing since sliced bread, and they can obsess w/ it.
Yes, but the thing is not all porn is videos. they are books. or magazines. which i clearly stated. and no i didnt say it was great i stated there was nothing wrong with it, which there isnt. not once within mine did i even try to get at your point at all. i didnt read your post. i read kurtnis, then answered the questions she asked stating my own opinion.
sometimes it seems to start out as curiosity for a younger boy/girl. then, it can turn into an obsession. almost addictive, to some.
it's stupid, washed up, and fake. if it was a REAL girl posing naked, I'm be amazed. those girls are slathered in diseases and make up. their boobs are implants. and for some reason, most guys are so fucking amazed by it. when all it is is a bunch of fake. fake tits, too much make up, diseases. and if you get, what some call, addicted to it, maybe you expect your significant other to be that "hot" porn star you look at, or the variation of them, which is unethical beyond all reason. and no, I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being serious. my boyfriend drooled over it for a few years of his life, and I am damn sure he's thought about me or might have wanted me to be one of those "hot" girls, with the big tits and the make up and the diseases
and I could be the only girl that has this issue, but still. I'm just stating my valid point.
I don't like it. if it were more realistic, and more about beauty and less about sex, then yes, I might consider it interesting. but I don't think two girls making out is very beautiful. I don't think the past few generations of it is beautiful. it's gross.
I'm sure certain types of porn, maybe way back a century or so ago, of paintings of girls naked was beautiful because it captured them being normal and simple, not spreading their legs apart just to show their vagina. THAT'S the real stuff, the kind I don't mind. I'm not being contradictory, alright? sorry if it might seem like that, but I'm not, and I'm not trying to be. I think the paintings of naked people is beautiful, not the stuff w/ people fucking each other, or posing in some sexual position.
I'll have to disagree with you Evidently you've been exposed to commercial generic "porn" and therefore seem to think nothing else exists. Don't judge an entire industry based on the little side of it you've seen.
So what if they have fake boobs? People get plastic surgery all the time. If someone was in a car accident and had to have their face reassembled I doubt you'd run up to them and scream "YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE" its the same type of procedure, I see no problem with breast implants and its certainly no reason to make comments like that about someone. I wear make up, as do many people, and I see nothing wrong with that. As for the diseases comment, thats just rude and obviously not true about everyone. You're allowed to have your own opinion of beautiful, but you can't justify a personal preference by degrading the girls who don't fit your stereotype. That kind of defeats the point you were making, doesn't it? You think its wrong for people like your boyfriend to compare "normal" girls to girls involved in porn, but its ok for you to compare them and judge them as fake?
You aren't the only girl with those issues, but it doesn't make them valid points. What I don't get is why you're calling nude paintings from 100 + years ago porn O_O Porn is a deragatory term, refering to obscene things.
people with breast implants are objects and deserve to have them explode.
and so therefore they are fake no doubt about it.
I'll have to disagree with you Evidently you've been exposed to commercial generic "porn" and therefore seem to think nothing else exists. Don't judge an entire industry based on the little side of it you've seen.
So what if they have fake boobs? People get plastic surgery all the time. If someone was in a car accident and had to have their face reassembled I doubt you'd run up to them and scream "YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE" its the same type of procedure, I see no problem with breast implants and its certainly no reason to make comments like that about someone. I wear make up, as do many people, and I see nothing wrong with that. As for the diseases comment, thats just rude and obviously not true about everyone. You're allowed to have your own opinion of beautiful, but you can't justify a personal preference by degrading the girls who don't fit your stereotype. That kind of defeats the point you were making, doesn't it? You think its wrong for people like your boyfriend to compare "normal" girls to girls involved in porn, but its ok for you to compare them and judge them as fake?
You aren't the only girl with those issues, but it doesn't make them valid points. What I don't get is why you're calling nude paintings from 100 + years ago porn O_O Porn is a deragatory term, refering to obscene things.
I can't argue. I just don't like porn, I thought my point was valid. maybe my knowledge on the term isn't all that great. all your points definitely happen to be more logical than mine. I feel stupid.
I'll have to disagree with you Evidently you've been exposed to commercial generic "porn" and therefore seem to think nothing else exists. Don't judge an entire industry based on the little side of it you've seen.
So what if they have fake boobs? People get plastic surgery all the time. If someone was in a car accident and had to have their face reassembled I doubt you'd run up to them and scream "YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE YOU'RE FAKE" its the same type of procedure, I see no problem with breast implants and its certainly no reason to make comments like that about someone. I wear make up, as do many people, and I see nothing wrong with that. As for the diseases comment, thats just rude and obviously not true about everyone. You're allowed to have your own opinion of beautiful, but you can't justify a personal preference by degrading the girls who don't fit your stereotype. That kind of defeats the point you were making, doesn't it? You think its wrong for people like your boyfriend to compare "normal" girls to girls involved in porn, but its ok for you to compare them and judge them as fake?
You aren't the only girl with those issues, but it doesn't make them valid points. What I don't get is why you're calling nude paintings from 100 + years ago porn O_O Porn is a deragatory term, refering to obscene things.
well, in the porn industry people get implants because they want to, not because it's a nessecary sugery. they do it because they want to, because I think all surgery that isn't crucuial isn't really right.
people with breast implants are objects and deserve to have them explode.
and so therefore they are fake no doubt about it.
They aren't fake; their boobs are. Now, if you think boobs make up an entire person then you have more issues then I care to discuss. It seriously disgusts me to see such strereotypical views, no human being is an object and anyone who thinks that way is acting inhuman and cruel. Maybe you just thought it would be cute and funny to say that, I don't know, but it wasn't. It was just an ignorant statement and you obviously didn't think about who you could have offended. What if someone posting in this thread had a relative with breast cancer and they choose to have implants put in after surgery? Now you've just called them objects over something so silly. It isn't your body, so why does what someone else chooses to do matter to you? I doubt their fake boobs are going to pop off and attack you. I can't believe you would actually judge someone and demean them to an object based on a physical trait, justify that please..
i'm not talking about the people that have had cancer.
i'm talking about the porno OBJECTS
and they are objects because they want to please other people, they are things for peoples desires.
all porno stars are objects and if you can't see that then i'd say you've got issues because it's obvious.
and i'm sure they wouldn't mind getting called objects because they are
i'm not talking about the people that have had cancer.
i'm talking about the porno OBJECTS
and they are objects because they want to please other people, they are things for peoples desires.
all porno stars are objects and if you can't see that then i'd say you've got issues because it's obvious.
and i'm sure they wouldn't mind getting called objects because they are
Well, you never specified who you were talking about, you just said people with breast implants deserve to have them explode (quite mature). Doctors want to please other people. Teachers want to please other people. Musicians and singers want to please other people, are they objects too? Wanting to please people doesn't make you an object, it makes you generous. No human being is an object, thats a disgusting discriminatory view. You have no right to treat any human being as an object. And the only issues I have on this subject are with you
it's not something I would enjoy, I've seen it, so I know I don't like it. yeah, the girls and the guys, and it's dumb, I don't like it, but I don't think any less of people who look at it.
it's not something I would enjoy, I've seen it, so I know I don't like it. yeah, the girls and the guys, and it's dumb, I don't like it, but I don't think any less of people who look at it.
it's not something I would enjoy, I've seen it, so I know I don't like it. yeah, the girls and the guys, and it's dumb, I don't like it, but I don't think any less of people who look at it.
Thats a good attitude to have.
is that sarcasm or are you being serious?
I thought I had a good logical explanation. If people look at it, okay, I don't mind, that's their choice, whatever. if I said that wrong I didn't mean to.
it's not something I would enjoy, I've seen it, so I know I don't like it. yeah, the girls and the guys, and it's dumb, I don't like it, but I don't think any less of people who look at it.
Thats a good attitude to have.
is that sarcasm or are you being serious?
I thought I had a good logical explanation. If people look at it, okay, I don't mind, that's their choice, whatever. if I said that wrong I didn't mean to.
No, that was serious. Knowing that what you like isn't going to be the same as what everyone else likes is a good outlook to have. If everyone thought that way people would be alot mor peaceful.
No, that was serious. Knowing that what you like isn't going to be the same as what everyone else likes is a good outlook to have. If everyone thought that way people would be alot mor peaceful.
maybe it is sort of an art, but I think people abuse it.