a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
Yeah, but that has a chance of causing a miscarriage so alot of women don't do that. If you did do that and found out you baby had a sever mental issue to where it would die, then I can aborting it, and only then because it will die anyways. If there is a chance that it will be able to live, it shouldnt be killed. Lives shouldnt be taken aay because the are not "perfect".
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
Yeah, but that has a chance of causing a miscarriage so alot of women don't do that. If you did do that and found out you baby had a sever mental issue to where it would die, then I can aborting it, and only then because it will die anyways. If there is a chance that it will be able to live, it shouldnt be killed. Lives shouldnt be taken aay because the are not "perfect".
I agree with you there
I was just down stairs holding my 1 and half month old nephew...I could never understand how someone could kill a baby
so your saying its humane to kill someone because they have a disability?
My left foot is turn inward a bit...its considered a disability because I walk weird cause of it....
should I be killed?
No, but i'll tell you a story. My mum is a nurse who works with disabled people; one of the women she worked with waaay back she told me about once.
She was 33, had been given up for adoption as a baby. No family. She was disabled, couldn't move, talk, think, speak, eat, see, hear, nothing. She spent 33 years like that, before dying of an infection. 33 years of being in a vegetative state, feeling nothing. What kind of a life was that?. Should she have been left to rot alone in a care home bed for that long?.
Thank you, that was exactly what I was trying to say.
Matty. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 34 Gender: Male Posts: 3945
June 3rd, 2006 at 09:37am
The thought sickens me
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:23am
Jesus Christ Supermarket:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
amnio can also make mistakes, the tests are only has good has the Dr's preformming them, i was told that my child was going to be disabled and was adviced to abort the pregnancy, but i didnt and know apart from ADHD and Speach problems he is a healthy and loving child who is active and funny, and i look at him and think that i couldve aborted him somone who is healthy and happy, i was told to go away and think about it and it took me 2 minutes to decided that abortion wasnt for me.
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
amnio can also make mistakes, the tests are only has good has the Dr's preformming them, i was told that my child was going to be disabled and was adviced to abort the pregnancy, but i didnt and know apart from ADHD and Speach problems he is a healthy and loving child who is active and funny, and i look at him and think that i couldve aborted him somone who is healthy and happy, i was told to go away and think about it and it took me 2 minutes to decided that abortion wasnt for me.
amniocentesis can also cause miscarriages.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:27am
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Magne:
Jesus Christ Supermarket:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
amnio can also make mistakes, the tests are only has good has the Dr's preformming them, i was told that my child was going to be disabled and was adviced to abort the pregnancy, but i didnt and know apart from ADHD and Speach problems he is a healthy and loving child who is active and funny, and i look at him and think that i couldve aborted him somone who is healthy and happy, i was told to go away and think about it and it took me 2 minutes to decided that abortion wasnt for me.
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
amnio can also make mistakes, the tests are only has good has the Dr's preformming them, i was told that my child was going to be disabled and was adviced to abort the pregnancy, but i didnt and know apart from ADHD and Speach problems he is a healthy and loving child who is active and funny, and i look at him and think that i couldve aborted him somone who is healthy and happy, i was told to go away and think about it and it took me 2 minutes to decided that abortion wasnt for me.
amniocentesis can also cause miscarriages.
yes i know it can
You said you had it done, have the risks gone down for a miscarriage? I know they use to be really high, but I havn't read anything on it recently.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 3rd, 2006 at 11:51am
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Magne:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Magne:
Jesus Christ Supermarket:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
a 3-d ultra sound machince can't detect missing chromozones or additional ones.
...amniocentesis can do that. (BTW it's chromoSoMes)
amnio can also make mistakes, the tests are only has good has the Dr's preformming them, i was told that my child was going to be disabled and was adviced to abort the pregnancy, but i didnt and know apart from ADHD and Speach problems he is a healthy and loving child who is active and funny, and i look at him and think that i couldve aborted him somone who is healthy and happy, i was told to go away and think about it and it took me 2 minutes to decided that abortion wasnt for me.
amniocentesis can also cause miscarriages.
its not has bead has it was because medical tests have got better in recent years but it is still a miscarriage risk, only to be done if you are at risk or the child is at risk or your of a certain age
yes i know it can
You said you had it done, have the risks gone down for a miscarriage? I know they use to be really high, but I havn't read anything on it recently.
i think its a womans choice. the guy should have a say but ultimately its the womans body. i mean what if you get raped.. do you really want to bring in a child into the world which you could quite possibly resent? or if you are so close to finishing uni and getting a job or still at school. hvaing a baby can ruin peoples lives. of xcourse it can make them great but you shouldn have a baby if you dont want one
Is that the babies fault, does it deserve to be aborted? If they baby is going to ruin your life, why not put it up for adpotiont where it can make someones great?
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
June 4th, 2006 at 02:44pm
just do me a favor, and quit calling it "pro-choice"
it's "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion"
(unless it was rape) the woman had the choice to make the man use a condom, use a diaphram, use brithcontrol pills, and/or not get banged up in the first place
they had a choice
there's this little thing called action/consiquence: they had a choice (don't fuck), they blew it (they fucked), they're stuck with the consiquence (a baby)
there aren't second chances when it comes to biology, you can't say, "well, I fucked, but I didn't want a kid, so I'll kill it (or "choice" it, however you want to sugarcoat and jusitfy it)"
you just can't say that
Kitti Falling In Love With The Board Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 5688
June 4th, 2006 at 02:49pm
spill_no_sick:
just do me a favor, and quit calling it "pro-choice"
it's "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion"
(unless it was rape) the woman had the choice to make the man use a condom, use a diaphram, use brithcontrol pills, and/or not get banged up in the first place
they had a choice
there's this little thing called action/consiquence: they had a choice (don't fuck), they blew it (they fucked), they're stuck with the consiquence (a baby)
there aren't second chances when it comes to biology, you can't say, "well, I fucked, but I didn't want a kid, so I'll kill it (or "choice" it, however you want to sugarcoat and jusitfy it)"
you just can't say that
But it's not promoting killing babies. It's promoting the option to, in the case of rape or health risks for the mother.
Not as a form of birth control. People who use it like that are the ones who give the issue such bad connotations.
peas lover. King For A Couple Of Days Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 3502
June 4th, 2006 at 04:23pm
you got that right^^
ppl who think it's okay to have sex without using any protection cuz they know they can "get rid" of that little "mistake" later make others think about abortion in a bad way...not that i'm saying abortion is good,but it's necessary evil.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
June 4th, 2006 at 07:34pm
Kitti:
spill_no_sick:
just do me a favor, and quit calling it "pro-choice"
it's "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion"
(unless it was rape) the woman had the choice to make the man use a condom, use a diaphram, use brithcontrol pills, and/or not get banged up in the first place
they had a choice
there's this little thing called action/consiquence: they had a choice (don't fuck), they blew it (they fucked), they're stuck with the consiquence (a baby)
there aren't second chances when it comes to biology, you can't say, "well, I fucked, but I didn't want a kid, so I'll kill it (or "choice" it, however you want to sugarcoat and jusitfy it)"
you just can't say that
But it's not promoting killing babies. It's promoting the option to, in the case of rape or health risks for the mother.
Not as a form of birth control. People who use it like that are the ones who give the issue such bad connotations.
I mentioned (unless it was rape)
in which case: I know it takes more than nine months to settle that in court, but the if the girl claims it was rape, then she can have an abortion......but if she's found out that it wasn't rape she goes to jail for murder
anything wrong with outlawing abortion as long as that little loophole is in there?
just do me a favor, and quit calling it "pro-choice"
it's "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion"
(unless it was rape) the woman had the choice to make the man use a condom, use a diaphram, use brithcontrol pills, and/or not get banged up in the first place
they had a choice
there's this little thing called action/consiquence: they had a choice (don't fuck), they blew it (they fucked), they're stuck with the consiquence (a baby)
there aren't second chances when it comes to biology, you can't say, "well, I fucked, but I didn't want a kid, so I'll kill it (or "choice" it, however you want to sugarcoat and jusitfy it)"
you just can't say that
But it's not promoting killing babies. It's promoting the option to, in the case of rape or health risks for the mother.
Not as a form of birth control. People who use it like that are the ones who give the issue such bad connotations.
I mentioned (unless it was rape)
in which case: I know it takes more than nine months to settle that in court, but the if the girl claims it was rape, then she can have an abortion......but if she's found out that it wasn't rape she goes to jail for murder
anything wrong with outlawing abortion as long as that little loophole is in there?
If it was made legal in only extreme conditions (rape being one, mothers health is in severe danger being the other) I think that would be fair, and stop idiots from getting abortions.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
June 4th, 2006 at 07:47pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
Kitti:
spill_no_sick:
just do me a favor, and quit calling it "pro-choice"
it's "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion"
(unless it was rape) the woman had the choice to make the man use a condom, use a diaphram, use brithcontrol pills, and/or not get banged up in the first place
they had a choice
there's this little thing called action/consiquence: they had a choice (don't fuck), they blew it (they fucked), they're stuck with the consiquence (a baby)
there aren't second chances when it comes to biology, you can't say, "well, I fucked, but I didn't want a kid, so I'll kill it (or "choice" it, however you want to sugarcoat and jusitfy it)"
you just can't say that
But it's not promoting killing babies. It's promoting the option to, in the case of rape or health risks for the mother.
Not as a form of birth control. People who use it like that are the ones who give the issue such bad connotations.
I mentioned (unless it was rape)
in which case: I know it takes more than nine months to settle that in court, but the if the girl claims it was rape, then she can have an abortion......but if she's found out that it wasn't rape she goes to jail for murder
anything wrong with outlawing abortion as long as that little loophole is in there?
If it was made legal in only extreme conditions (rape being one, mothers health is in severe danger being the other) I think that would be fair, and stop idiots from getting abortions.
yep
but more importantly, I think we should change it from "pro-choice" to "pro-abortion"
it's never okay to sugarcoat.....especially when it's a misleading selfish justification
but more importantly, I think we should change it from "pro-choice" to "pro-abortion"
it's never okay to sugarcoat.....especially when it's a misleading selfish justification
I KNOW. I hate when people change words around to make their point seem 'better', it's misleading and stupid. Also when they say it isnt muder. You're killing a living thing, it's murder.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
June 4th, 2006 at 07:59pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
yep
but more importantly, I think we should change it from "pro-choice" to "pro-abortion"
it's never okay to sugarcoat.....especially when it's a misleading selfish justification
I KNOW. I hate when people change words around to make their point seem 'better', it's misleading and stupid. Also when they say it isnt muder. You're killing a living thing, it's murder.
killing isn't always murder (in self defense, accident, etc.) but abortion is
and you are a murderer if you have an abortion, so (unless it's a rape) people who have abortions should be thrown in prison
but more importantly, I think we should change it from "pro-choice" to "pro-abortion"
it's never okay to sugarcoat.....especially when it's a misleading selfish justification
I KNOW. I hate when people change words around to make their point seem 'better', it's misleading and stupid. Also when they say it isnt muder. You're killing a living thing, it's murder.
killing isn't always murder (in self defense, accident, etc.) but abortion is
and you are a murderer if you have an abortion, so (unless it's a rape) people who have abortions should be thrown in prison
Yeah, they should. Even after they have the child, they don't have to keep it. It would be nice if they delt with their actions, but I would much rather the baby be put up for adoption where it will (most likely) be adopted into a loving home, instead of growing up where it isnt wanted.
