Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 19th, 2006 at 09:26am
Trunks <3:
no.(btw she is 15 now) She is a drug accidt, an alcoholic, she gets abused by her boyfreinds, she ahsnt been to school for the last 2 years and she rarely talks to people anymore. She ahs had 3 kids and 2 of them have died. One was born reatrded and blind and the tther didnt eat and died. i tried to tell her not to have sex, but she wouldnt listen. And its not like i could talk so she just ignored me
thats awful, loosing 2 children, does she still have the other one with her? and why hasnt the state got involved about her not going to school and what about her perants,
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 19th, 2006 at 09:31am
Trunks <3:
Magne:
Trunks <3:
no.(btw she is 15 now) She is a drug accidt, an alcoholic, she gets abused by her boyfreinds, she ahsnt been to school for the last 2 years and she rarely talks to people anymore. She ahs had 3 kids and 2 of them have died. One was born reatrded and blind and the tther didnt eat and died. i tried to tell her not to have sex, but she wouldnt listen. And its not like i could talk so she just ignored me
thats awful, loosing 2 children, does she still have the other one with her? and why hasnt the state got involved about her not going to school and what about her perants,
her mum is a prostitute and god knows where her dad is. The state dont care. my town is in the country. noone cares. I care., But noone else does.
was she taking drugs when she was pregnant?
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 19th, 2006 at 09:38am
Trunks <3:
yeah she was, which is why i think her kids are a bit fucked
well you cant educate pork my granny used to say to me.
as far as im concerend, if you dont want the child you should put it up for adoption, unless its going to be really seriously disabled or deformed and its going to die very young or live its entire life in pain
I dont agree there. You can be told that the child may have this or that but that doesnt mean you should abort it first because for most things a child can get medication to control the problem besides it might turn out that it wdoesnt have the disability thats kind of like saying that fi your child later in life gets a disability you should kill it or just disown it, its not right the child has a right whos to say that the disabled cant be happy and lead a happy life whether their disabled or not i know a few people who are servely disabled and their happy with their lives if not more then i am with mine. If your told its going to die there is always a chance it wont and even if the outcome says it will it doesnt mean to say it could be soon i mean some people have been told that and end up living up to their 40s or something.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 19th, 2006 at 10:52am
~*~Falling Star~*~:
anti-christ of suburbia:
as far as im concerend, if you dont want the child you should put it up for adoption, unless its going to be really seriously disabled or deformed and its going to die very young or live its entire life in pain
I dont agree there. You can be told that the child may have this or that but that doesnt mean you should abort it first because for most things a child can get medication to control the problem besides it might turn out that it wdoesnt have the disability thats kind of like saying that fi your child later in life gets a disability you should kill it or just disown it, its not right the child has a right whos to say that the disabled cant be happy and lead a happy life whether their disabled or not i know a few people who are servely disabled and their happy with their lives if not more then i am with mine. If your told its going to die there is always a chance it wont and even if the outcome says it will it doesnt mean to say it could be soon i mean some people have been told that and end up living up to their 40s or something.
i agree with you there, because when i was having my child i was told that the baby was sick and they advised me to have an abortion and i never and when the baby was born he was healthy and he was kicking and screaming thankgod i didnt kill him. he has got health problems but nothing to get rid of him over.
as far as im concerend, if you dont want the child you should put it up for adoption, unless its going to be really seriously disabled or deformed and its going to die very young or live its entire life in pain
I dont agree there. You can be told that the child may have this or that but that doesnt mean you should abort it first because for most things a child can get medication to control the problem besides it might turn out that it wdoesnt have the disability thats kind of like saying that fi your child later in life gets a disability you should kill it or just disown it, its not right the child has a right whos to say that the disabled cant be happy and lead a happy life whether their disabled or not i know a few people who are servely disabled and their happy with their lives if not more then i am with mine. If your told its going to die there is always a chance it wont and even if the outcome says it will it doesnt mean to say it could be soon i mean some people have been told that and end up living up to their 40s or something.
i agree with you there, because when i was having my child i was told that the baby was sick and they advised me to have an abortion and i never and when the baby was born he was healthy and he was kicking and screaming thankgod i didnt kill him. he has got health problems but nothing to get rid of him over.
Woo Go You
I hope your boys fine =]
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
June 19th, 2006 at 10:56am
~*~Falling Star~*~:
Magne:
~*~Falling Star~*~:
anti-christ of suburbia:
as far as im concerend, if you dont want the child you should put it up for adoption, unless its going to be really seriously disabled or deformed and its going to die very young or live its entire life in pain
I dont agree there. You can be told that the child may have this or that but that doesnt mean you should abort it first because for most things a child can get medication to control the problem besides it might turn out that it wdoesnt have the disability thats kind of like saying that fi your child later in life gets a disability you should kill it or just disown it, its not right the child has a right whos to say that the disabled cant be happy and lead a happy life whether their disabled or not i know a few people who are servely disabled and their happy with their lives if not more then i am with mine. If your told its going to die there is always a chance it wont and even if the outcome says it will it doesnt mean to say it could be soon i mean some people have been told that and end up living up to their 40s or something.
i agree with you there, because when i was having my child i was told that the baby was sick and they advised me to have an abortion and i never and when the baby was born he was healthy and he was kicking and screaming thankgod i didnt kill him. he has got health problems but nothing to get rid of him over.
Woo Go You
I hope your boys fine =]
yeah he is a normal pain in the bloody ass he runs me wild, but yeah i love him, but i like i said Dr's can make mistakes, he has health problems but he is my baby. (well actually he's 14)
as the way i see it with most things, i think abortions should be legal and left up for the person to decide. there are just so many beliefs and shit thrown into this arguement that there is no fair way to deal with it, other than to just let the people themselves decide based on what they, themselves, believe in.
abortions being legal isn't forcing those who dont believe in abortion to have one, so i dont see what the problem is. plus, there are a lot of medical cases when abortions actually save people's lives.
as the way i see it with most things, i think abortions should be legal and left up for the person to decide. there are just so many beliefs and shit thrown into this arguement that there is no fair way to deal with it, other than to just let the people themselves decide based on what they, themselves, believe in.
abortions being legal isn't forcing those who dont believe in abortion to have one, so i dont see what the problem is. plus, there are a lot of medical cases when abortions actually save people's lives.
Aside from when absolutely needed for medical purposes, how is that fiar to everyone?
Did the baby choose to be aborted? Did they agree to having their life taken away, is that fair? Murder is never fair.
as the way i see it with most things, i think abortions should be legal and left up for the person to decide. there are just so many beliefs and shit thrown into this arguement that there is no fair way to deal with it, other than to just let the people themselves decide based on what they, themselves, believe in.
abortions being legal isn't forcing those who dont believe in abortion to have one, so i dont see what the problem is. plus, there are a lot of medical cases when abortions actually save people's lives.
Aside from when absolutely needed for medical purposes, how is that fiar to everyone?
Did the baby choose to be aborted? Did they agree to having their life taken away, is that fair? Murder is never fair.
THAT'S where the opinion comes in. not everyone believes that life begins at contraseption. in fact, a lot of people believe that life starts at birth. there's no way to prove it one way or another, so it's all just up to people's believes.
personally, i just see a "baby" in the first few months of pregnancy as just a clump of cells. they haven't formed into anything alive yet, so there's nothing to be killed but cells. it's like killing bacteria, basically.
it's like this: say some scientists are working in a lab with some skin cells. they've got them in petridishes and all that, doing these expiriments to try to grow more skin cells from the existing ones. well, after years of failure, they decide to just dispose of the skin cells completely. is THAT murder? i think not...
THAT'S where the opinion comes in. not everyone believes that life begins at contraseption. in fact, a lot of people believe that life starts at birth. there's no way to prove it one way or another, so it's all just up to people's believes.
personally, i just see a "baby" in the first few months of pregnancy as just a clump of cells. they haven't formed into anything alive yet, so there's nothing to be killed but cells. it's like killing bacteria, basically.
it's like this: say some scientists are working in a lab with some skin cells. they've got them in petridishes and all that, doing these expiriments to try to grow more skin cells from the existing ones. well, after years of failure, they decide to just dispose of the skin cells completely. is THAT murder? i think not...
Did skin cells have a chance to develop into a living human being, no. And to obtain those skin cells they needed the consent of whomever they belonged to.
And Cells are live, they are living... thats what makes them living cells. The Embryo is alive from the very begining. The wrongful killing of things is murder. The only exception to this would be rape or a health hazard. other than that abortion is sick and ignorant.
THAT'S where the opinion comes in. not everyone believes that life begins at contraseption. in fact, a lot of people believe that life starts at birth. there's no way to prove it one way or another, so it's all just up to people's believes.
personally, i just see a "baby" in the first few months of pregnancy as just a clump of cells. they haven't formed into anything alive yet, so there's nothing to be killed but cells. it's like killing bacteria, basically.
it's like this: say some scientists are working in a lab with some skin cells. they've got them in petridishes and all that, doing these expiriments to try to grow more skin cells from the existing ones. well, after years of failure, they decide to just dispose of the skin cells completely. is THAT murder? i think not...
Did skin cells have a chance to develop into a living human being, no. And to obtain those skin cells they needed the consent of whomever they belonged to.
And Cells are live, they are living... thats what makes them living cells. The Embryo is alive from the very begining. The wrongful killing of things is murder. The only exception to this would be rape or a health hazard. other than that abortion is sick and ignorant.
see, this is EXACTLY what i was saying. we both obviously believe different things about when life starts, etc. which is why there should be that leniance (sp?). just because abortion was legal wouldn't mean you, or anyone else who agrees with you, would have to have an abortion. you'd be abe to say "no, i dont believe in abortion. i'm not having one". and others who believe differently could still have the option.
and yes, the cells are alive, but, quite frankly, that doesn't mean shit to me. like i said before, the only difference between those cells and some cells in a labratory is that they could BECOME a human being. yes, BECOME, as in, are not already a human being.
i think my brother has a pretty good view on it. he believes that an abortion would only be "wrong" or "murderous" if the baby was developed enough to survive on it's own.
THAT'S where the opinion comes in. not everyone believes that life begins at contraseption. in fact, a lot of people believe that life starts at birth. there's no way to prove it one way or another, so it's all just up to people's believes.
personally, i just see a "baby" in the first few months of pregnancy as just a clump of cells. they haven't formed into anything alive yet, so there's nothing to be killed but cells. it's like killing bacteria, basically.
it's like this: say some scientists are working in a lab with some skin cells. they've got them in petridishes and all that, doing these expiriments to try to grow more skin cells from the existing ones. well, after years of failure, they decide to just dispose of the skin cells completely. is THAT murder? i think not...
Did skin cells have a chance to develop into a living human being, no. And to obtain those skin cells they needed the consent of whomever they belonged to.
And Cells are live, they are living... thats what makes them living cells. The Embryo is alive from the very begining. The wrongful killing of things is murder. The only exception to this would be rape or a health hazard. other than that abortion is sick and ignorant.
see, this is EXACTLY what i was saying. we both obviously believe different things about when life starts, etc. which is why there should be that leniance (sp?). just because abortion was legal wouldn't mean you, or anyone else who agrees with you, would have to have an abortion. you'd be abe to say "no, i dont believe in abortion. i'm not having one". and others who believe differently could still have the option.
and yes, the cells are alive, but, quite frankly, that doesn't mean shit to me. like i said before, the only difference between those cells and some cells in a labratory is that they could BECOME a human being. yes, BECOME, as in, are not already a human being.
i think my brother has a pretty good view on it. he believes that an abortion would only be "wrong" or "murderous" if the baby was developed enough to survive on it's own.
ok, well some people believe it's ok to rape people, thats their opinion. I dont have to because I disagree, so should we just let them continue doing what they do? It is their opinion. Some people think it's ok to rob and steal from other people, should we allow that as well?
Well, most kids that are 3 can't survive on their own, can we murder them as well? Based on your brothers views we could...
I noticed something.
Most of pro-life people say ''abortion is wrong it's murder the only excuse to have one should be because the mother will die or because it was rape.''
But if you think abortion is ''murder'', why do you think it's okay to have one because of rape? It's still the same process as anyone else, either it is for birth control, for financial issues, etc...
ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
Exactly, they are being wrongfully killed before they even have a chance at life.
If you get pregnant (aside from rape) it's your fault and no one elses. You decided to have sex, and whenever you have sex, you are chancing having a kid. Thousands of people are despreraetly trying to adopt kids because they can't have them, but then theres also thousands aborting and murdering them because they are irresponsiable and stupid.
ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
Exactly, they are being wrongfully killed before they even have a chance at life.
If you get pregnant (aside from rape) it's your fault and no one elses. You decided to have sex, and whenever you have sex, you are chancing having a kid. Thousands of people are despreraetly trying to adopt kids because they can't have them, but then theres also thousands aborting and murdering them because they are irresponsiable and stupid.
But if it is ok to ''murder'' a child because of rape, it's the same thing as other women who have abortion for other reasons. If you really think that abortion is ''murder'', then it shouldn't matter how it was created.
Anyway, no one is forcing you to abort, so no one should force you to give birth.
ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
Exactly, they are being wrongfully killed before they even have a chance at life.
If you get pregnant (aside from rape) it's your fault and no one elses. You decided to have sex, and whenever you have sex, you are chancing having a kid. Thousands of people are despreraetly trying to adopt kids because they can't have them, but then theres also thousands aborting and murdering them because they are irresponsiable and stupid.
But if it is ok to ''murder'' a child because of rape, it's the same thing as other women who have abortion for other reasons. If you really think that abortion is ''murder'', then it shouldn't matter how it was created.
Anyway, no one is forcing you to abort, so no one should force you to give birth.
yeah, no one also forced you to have sex and get pregnant in the first place. Accidents have consequences and if you have sex, you should know you could have a kid. Just because your an irresponsiable moron doesnt mean you should murder it.
ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
Exactly, they are being wrongfully killed before they even have a chance at life.
If you get pregnant (aside from rape) it's your fault and no one elses. You decided to have sex, and whenever you have sex, you are chancing having a kid. Thousands of people are despreraetly trying to adopt kids because they can't have them, but then theres also thousands aborting and murdering them because they are irresponsiable and stupid.
But if it is ok to ''murder'' a child because of rape, it's the same thing as other women who have abortion for other reasons. If you really think that abortion is ''murder'', then it shouldn't matter how it was created.
Anyway, no one is forcing you to abort, so no one should force you to give birth.
yeah, no one also forced you to have sex and get pregnant in the first place. Accidents have consequences and if you have sex, you should know you could have a kid. Just because your an irresponsiable moron doesnt mean you should murder it.
A baby is not a punishment. It's not a fucking 100$ fine.
