ok, i understand why killing an un-born baby isn't fair - they are livings oraganisms (sp?) and didn't chose to die BUT the child wouldn't (to my knowledge) would of been able to decide , it's not like they would be able to chose
therefore i DO think it people should have the option of abortion ...
Exactly, they are being wrongfully killed before they even have a chance at life.
If you get pregnant (aside from rape) it's your fault and no one elses. You decided to have sex, and whenever you have sex, you are chancing having a kid. Thousands of people are despreraetly trying to adopt kids because they can't have them, but then theres also thousands aborting and murdering them because they are irresponsiable and stupid.
exactly , IMO rape is the only exception
'you make your bed you lay in it'
The consequence is that she's pregnant. AFTER she has the choice of what she'll do.
I mean when people say that ''if you weren't raped you should have the baby'' , they don't really think about the future child that much. If they think abortion is murder, then why is murder okay because of rape? Most of the time they would just like the girl to have the child, to ''punish'' her for having sex.
The consequence is that she's pregnant. AFTER she has the choice of what she'll do.
I mean when people say that ''if you weren't raped you should have the baby'' , they don't really think about the future child that much. If they think abortion is murder, then why is murder okay because of rape? Most of the time they would just like the girl to have the child, to ''punish'' her for having sex.
No, you're the one saying it's a punishment. I feel that murdering innocent babies is wrong. No one says they have to raise the baby, adoption is great.
And rape is different. It isnt your fault you got pregnant when you were raped, and can you even imagine what it's like being pregnant and being constantly reminded that you were attacked and taken advantage of? no, you can't at all.
Anytime you have sex, you should be prepared for the fact that you could become pregnant and have to have a kid. If you're not ready for that, don't have sex.
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July 27th, 2006 at 03:07pm
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The consequence is that she's pregnant. AFTER she has the choice of what she'll do.
[b]I mean when people say that ''if you weren't raped you should have the baby'' , they don't really think about the future child that much. If they think abortion is murder, then why is murder okay because of rape? Most of the time they would just like the girl to have the child, to ''punish'' her for having sex.
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ok doesnt the girl know that sex without protection can lead to a baby that she doesnt want? perhaps she should be grateful to be able to give life to another living breathing person, many many many people who loose children (naturally) wish so hard to be able to have kids and not be able to, i have had 3 children one of which i was told to have an abortion because the baby would be born disabled but i didnt and he is here and doing well and apart from his medical condition he is fine, should i have had the abortion they so desperatly wanted me to have, perhaps people should think about bagging it before having sex, and not abort a healthy living person, there are always adoption agencies who will find a loving and supporting family for the child the person was daft enough to fall pregnant with. Abortion should not be seen has a form of contraception.
ok, well some people believe it's ok to rape people, thats their opinion. I dont have to because I disagree, so should we just let them continue doing what they do? It is their opinion. Some people think it's ok to rob and steal from other people, should we allow that as well?
Well, most kids that are 3 can't survive on their own, can we murder them as well? Based on your brothers views we could...
there's a difference between rape and abortion, and that's that the arguement with abortion is when the life starts. nobody is yet to prove when life officially begins, so no one can be 100% sure that an abortion is murder. it just depends on what you believe, i guess.
and he meant survive out of the womb, not like, out on the streets by themselves.
ok, well some people believe it's ok to rape people, thats their opinion. I dont have to because I disagree, so should we just let them continue doing what they do? It is their opinion. Some people think it's ok to rob and steal from other people, should we allow that as well?
Well, most kids that are 3 can't survive on their own, can we murder them as well? Based on your brothers views we could...
there's a difference between rape and abortion, and that's that the arguement with abortion is when the life starts. nobody is yet to prove when life officially begins, so no one can be 100% sure that an abortion is murder. it just depends on what you believe, i guess.
and he meant survive out of the womb, not like, out on the streets by themselves.
Life has started. Do you think those cells are dead? No, they're living and devloping into a humab being. They are alive. That's a proven fact. Im oretty sure if something is alive, it's life has started.
ok, well some people believe it's ok to rape people, thats their opinion. I dont have to because I disagree, so should we just let them continue doing what they do? It is their opinion. Some people think it's ok to rob and steal from other people, should we allow that as well?
Well, most kids that are 3 can't survive on their own, can we murder them as well? Based on your brothers views we could...
there's a difference between rape and abortion, and that's that the arguement with abortion is when the life starts. nobody is yet to prove when life officially begins, so no one can be 100% sure that an abortion is murder. it just depends on what you believe, i guess.
and he meant survive out of the womb, not like, out on the streets by themselves.
Life has started. Do you think those cells are dead? No, they're living and devloping into a humab being. They are alive. That's a proven fact. Im oretty sure if something is alive, it's life has started.
the cells are alive, but a person isn't.
maybe i'm an asshole, but i'd still have an abortion even if i KNEW it WAS alive. haha.
but anyway, you know what they could do just to make everyone happy? just remove the damn thing from the womb and put it in a serigant to keep.
The consequence is that she's pregnant. AFTER she has the choice of what she'll do.
I mean when people say that ''if you weren't raped you should have the baby'' , they don't really think about the future child that much. If they think abortion is murder, then why is murder okay because of rape? Most of the time they would just like the girl to have the child, to ''punish'' her for having sex.
No, you're the one saying it's a punishment. I feel that murdering innocent babies is wrong. No one says they have to raise the baby, adoption is great.
And rape is different. It isnt your fault you got pregnant when you were raped, and can you even imagine what it's like being pregnant and being constantly reminded that you were attacked and taken advantage of? no, you can't at all.
Anytime you have sex, you should be prepared for the fact that you could become pregnant and have to have a kid. If you're not ready for that, don't have sex.
Uh, I'm pro-choice and I never said that they shouldn't abort if raped.
And you, can you imagine what it's like being forced to carry a child 9 months and giving birth to it? Even if you didn't want to? Having completely no rights about your OWN body? Forcing women to give birth is more sick and ignorant than abortion to me.
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ok doesnt the girl know that sex without protection can lead to a baby that she doesnt want? perhaps she should be grateful to be able to give life to another living breathing person, many many many people who loose children (naturally) wish so hard to be able to have kids and not be able to, i have had 3 children one of which i was told to have an abortion because the baby would be born disabled but i didnt and he is here and doing well and apart from his medical condition he is fine, should i have had the abortion they so desperatly wanted me to have, perhaps people should think about bagging it before having sex, and not abort a healthy living person, there are always adoption agencies who will find a loving and supporting family for the child the person was daft enough to fall pregnant with. Abortion should not be seen has a form of contraception.
It can happen that they bagged it but the condom broke. They took their responsability but contraception isn't 100% sure. And now they have a choice. That's why abortion is legal. It is not an obligation. It's an option.
If you're having sex, you need to be prepared to have kids. end of sentence. If you're not ready to carry around a kid for nine months, don't have sex. NO WHERE does it say condoms are 100% effective, so thats no excuse either if it breaks or something.
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July 28th, 2006 at 12:07am
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If you're having sex, you need to be prepared to have kids. end of sentence. If you're not ready to carry around a kid for nine months, don't have sex. NO WHERE does it say condoms are 100% effective, so thats no excuse either if it breaks or something.
If you're having sex, you need to be prepared to have kids. end of sentence. If you're not ready to carry around a kid for nine months, don't have sex. NO WHERE does it say condoms are 100% effective, so thats no excuse either if it breaks or something.
abstinence works 100% of the times it's tried
exactly
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
July 28th, 2006 at 12:36am
Sugah Faerie:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
If you're having sex, you need to be prepared to have kids. end of sentence. If you're not ready to carry around a kid for nine months, don't have sex. NO WHERE does it say condoms are 100% effective, so thats no excuse either if it breaks or something.
abstinence works 100% of the times it's tried
exactly
Yeah but what about if people want to have sex. Why should they be denied something they find pleasurable just because they dont feel as though they are mature enough, cant provide for, dont want a child, dont live in a place suitable for a child, lifestyle isnt suitable for a child etc etc. There are millions of reasons why people dont want to have kids and if they use contraception then at least they are trying to avoid being in a situatioin where an abortion is the only choice possible for them. Some people dont have the hip space for a kid. Abortion is better than having a kid and neglecting it or not loving it because you didnt want it. Adoption is an option for some people but the world is becoming far to over populated anyway and there are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many kids in foster housing or stuck in shitty ophanages because noone will adopt them. There are more kids up for adoption than there will ever be people wanting to adopt.
you're right, think of the kid....before you have sex!
saying, "the world is overpopulated, so denying some one life is better than denying some one life after they've already experienced"
with that logic, why don't we just kill the kids in foster homes?
their lives are as bad as the fate of unwanted children, and they obviously aren't as important as wanting to have SEX (or at least sex without the $2.00 cost of a pack of condoms or $30.00 cost of a half a year of pills.....no becuase if you could afford that then you could afford a baby, which you obviously can't......but man SEX is awaiting you and the government has to crumble to letting you kill the baby because we have so many people on this earth already
what i think:
If someone wants to just randomly have unprotected sex with someone, drunk or not, i think you should put it up for adoption unless you seriously think you won't ever do it again, if you were raped your young or you have a chance of dying because of being young, or you were tricked with pills, that you can.
First you complain at those ''morons who get pregnant'' not using protection, and when they use protection you say it's their fault if it fails because they shouldn't have sex in the first place. Wow.
People aren't going to remain virgins or chaste until they have the perfect condition to have children.
And for the adoption thing, there is already PLENTY of children waiting for adoption in other countries like China, etc... if you really want a child that much, then you shouldn't care if it's not an American.
I didnt say that.
the price of condoms is VERY idfferent from the cost of having a abby. Its not just money. Its time effort and love. And some people just dont have those things to give.
Thats what adoptions for, if you were that stupid to where you had a kid you couldnt handle, give it up for adoption so that someone who wants and needs it can have it.
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July 28th, 2006 at 01:57pm
Sugah Faerie:
spill_no_sick:
Sugah Faerie:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
If you're having sex, you need to be prepared to have kids. end of sentence. If you're not ready to carry around a kid for nine months, don't have sex. NO WHERE does it say condoms are 100% effective, so thats no excuse either if it breaks or something.
abstinence works 100% of the times it's tried
exactly
Yeah but what about if people want to have sex. Why should they be denied something they find pleasurable just because they dont feel as though they are mature enough, cant provide for, dont want a child, dont live in a place suitable for a child, lifestyle isnt suitable for a child etc etc. There are millions of reasons why people dont want to have kids and if they use contraception then at least they are trying to avoid being in a situatioin where an abortion is the only choice possible for them. Some people dont have the hip space for a kid. Abortion is better than having a kid and neglecting it or not loving it because you didnt want it. Adoption is an option for some people but the world is becoming far to over populated anyway and there are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many kids in foster housing or stuck in shitty ophanages because noone will adopt them. There are more kids up for adoption than there will ever be people wanting to adopt.
you're right, think of the kid....before you have sex!
saying, "the world is overpopulated, so denying some one life is better than denying some one life after they've already experienced"
with that logic, why don't we just kill the kids in foster homes?
their lives are as bad as the fate of unwanted children, and they obviously aren't as important as wanting to have SEX (or at least sex without the $2.00 cost of a pack of condoms or $30.00 cost of a half a year of pills.....no becuase if you could afford that then you could afford a baby, which you obviously can't......but man SEX is awaiting you and the government has to crumble to letting you kill the baby because we have so many people on this earth already
I didnt say that.
the price of condoms is VERY idfferent from the cost of having a abby. Its not just money. Its time effort and love. And some people just dont have those things to give.
yeah it is a huge responsibility......but they can't just hold out on (unprotected) sex nope.......a baby can completely ruin your life with love, attention, money, time, but damn that cock looks so good I think I'll just jump on it and fuck protection like I'll fuck this pimp over here!
Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
No One needs an abortion unless it's for Medical purposes and their life is endanger or they were raped. Aside from those 2 things, no one needs and abortion.
