spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
July 28th, 2006 at 02:36pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Apocalypse:
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Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
No One needs an abortion unless it's for Medical purposes and their life is endanger or they were raped. Aside from those 2 things, no one needs and abortion.
people don't want abortion legalized because it's a necesity, they want it because it's a convinience
and because they're brainwashed into thinking that it's sexist not giving women a "choice"
why not call it, "pro-abortion" instead of "pro-choice"....that's what it is
we'll never come to terms with this and the main evidence is that it's pro-choice and anti-abortion
apparantly we're not even arguing the same thing
Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
No One needs an abortion unless it's for Medical purposes and their life is endanger or they were raped. Aside from those 2 things, no one needs and abortion.
wants then. And why exactly does a rape victim needs an abortion? Because she doesn't want the baby? Well it's the same thing for everyone else.
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and because they're brainwashed into thinking that it's sexist not giving women a "choice"
It's not a matter of being brainwashed. It's what you believe in, and I believe women should have a choice. Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is sick.
I agree with Apocalypse
i think atleast having the option is a good thing
just becaue you can get an abortion doesn't mean everyone will
some people aren't even ready for the 9 months of being pregnant never mind having a kid
and adoption isn't always an option , some people would rather not have an baby at all than have to give it away to some one they don't know (even with back round checks you never know who's getting that child)
and not all teens are having un-protected sex , its not wrong of them to (be having sex) (IMO) sometimes accidents happen
Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
No One needs an abortion unless it's for Medical purposes and their life is endanger or they were raped. Aside from those 2 things, no one needs and abortion.
wants then. And why exactly does a rape victim needs an abortion? Because she doesn't want the baby? Well it's the same thing for everyone else.
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and because they're brainwashed into thinking that it's sexist not giving women a "choice"
It's not a matter of being brainwashed. It's what you believe in, and I believe women should have a choice. Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is sick.
No One forced her to have sex and get pregnant did they? She should deal witht eh consequences of her actions. If you screw someone, you might get pregnant, thats part of it.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
July 28th, 2006 at 04:48pm
Apocalypse:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Apocalypse:
The consequence is that she's pregnant. AFTER she has the choice of what she'll do.
I mean when people say that ''if you weren't raped you should have the baby'' , they don't really think about the future child that much. If they think abortion is murder, then why is murder okay because of rape? Most of the time they would just like the girl to have the child, to ''punish'' her for having sex.
No, you're the one saying it's a punishment. I feel that murdering innocent babies is wrong. No one says they have to raise the baby, adoption is great.
And rape is different. It isnt your fault you got pregnant when you were raped, and can you even imagine what it's like being pregnant and being constantly reminded that you were attacked and taken advantage of? no, you can't at all.
Anytime you have sex, you should be prepared for the fact that you could become pregnant and have to have a kid. If you're not ready for that, don't have sex.
Uh, I'm pro-choice and I never said that they shouldn't abort if raped. And you, can you imagine what it's like being forced to carry a child 9 months and giving birth to it? Even if you didn't want to? Having completely no rights about your OWN body? Forcing women to give birth is more sick and ignorant than abortion to me.
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ok doesnt the girl know that sex without protection can lead to a baby that she doesnt want? perhaps she should be grateful to be able to give life to another living breathing person, many many many people who loose children (naturally) wish so hard to be able to have kids and not be able to, i have had 3 children one of which i was told to have an abortion because the baby would be born disabled but i didnt and he is here and doing well and apart from his medical condition he is fine, should i have had the abortion they so desperatly wanted me to have, perhaps people should think about bagging it before having sex, and not abort a healthy living person, there are always adoption agencies who will find a loving and supporting family for the child the person was daft enough to fall pregnant with. Abortion should not be seen has a form of contraception.
It can happen that they bagged it but the condom broke. They took their responsability but contraception isn't 100% sure. And now they have a choice. That's why abortion is legal. It is not an obligation. It's an option.
then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
LIKE:
Injectable Hormonal Contraceptive
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How do you use it? How does it work?
The most popular form of this type of contraception, Depo-Provera, involves the girl having an injection once every twelve weeks. The injection is of the hormone Progestogen. The injection works in the same way in the body as the Progestogen only pill, but has the advantage that you do not have to remember to take a pill every day.
It does however have the same disadvantage as the hormonal pill, in that it provides no protection against STDs.
OR EVEN:
Contraceptive implants
Written by Dr David Delvin, GP and family planning specialist
For quite a lot of women, the idea of having a contraceptive implanted under the skin of your arm is quite attractive.
Why? Because of the fact, that once it’s been implanted, then with luck you can more or less forget about it. You can make love whenever you want to, without worrying about taking Pills or buying condoms!
Implants were first used on a wide scale back in the 1990s. They received rather a bad press, partly because they so often caused menstrual problems, and partly because some of them were put in by doctors who had no real idea what they were doing; as a result, some women developed pain or infection at the insertion site.
Even today, you should make absolutely sure that a doctor who offers to give you a contraceptive implant has been fully trained in the insertion technique. In Britain, only a small minority of medics have this particular skill.
In the early 2000s, there were stories that implants could ‘move around’ inside your body. These put some women off. We deal with this concern below.
What does an implant actually do?
From its position under your skin, it releases a steady stream of a female-type hormone into your bloodstream. The hormone reaches your ovaries, and prevents them from releasing eggs. It also causes some minor anti-conception changes in your womb lining and in your cervix. Therefore, you don’t get pregnant – or at least, the chances of pregnancy are very small indeed.
The implant goes on working for several years (three years in the case of Implanon), after which it runs out of hormone. If, at the end of that time, you want to continue with the method, you would need to have the device replaced.
And if at any time you get fed up with the implant – for instance, because of side-effects (see below) – you can have it removed. However, once again you should make sure that the doctor who does the removal has been properly trained for the job. If you’re having trouble finding someone, ring the nearest Family Planning Clinic for advice.
then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
If they are unable to have kids, it's sad for them, but there is a lot of children from other countries like China who are waiting to be adopted. Not only from America. ''If you don't want babies don't have sex?''. That's not really realistic as a statement, people don't stay virgins until they're ready to have kids. Anyway, not EVERYONE wants kids. Should they remain chaste all their lives?
Sometimes protection fails, too. Even if you take up your responsabilities.
Oh, and I never heard about those sort of contraception. I never went to a doctor to ask about contraception anyway. the injection thing sounds interesting.
then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
If they are unable to have kids, it's sad for them, but there is a lot of children from other countries like China who are waiting to be adopted. Not only from America. ''If you don't want babies don't have sex?''. That's not really realistic as a statement, people don't stay virgins until they're ready to have kids. Anyway, not EVERYONE wants kids. Should they remain chaste all their lives?
Sometimes protection fails, too. Even if you take up your responsabilities.
Oh, and I never heard about those sort of contraception. I never went to a doctor to ask about contraception anyway. the injection thing sounds interesting.
I never said people should remain virgins their whole lives, but if you do have sex, be prepared for children.
Adopting from other countries is not as simple as you're making it out to be and just because there are other adoption programs doesnt mean it's ok to murder babies over here.
then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
If they are unable to have kids, it's sad for them, but there is a lot of children from other countries like China who are waiting to be adopted. Not only from America. ''If you don't want babies don't have sex?''. That's not really realistic as a statement, people don't stay virgins until they're ready to have kids. Anyway, not EVERYONE wants kids. Should they remain chaste all their lives?
Sometimes protection fails, too. Even if you take up your responsabilities.
Oh, and I never heard about those sort of contraception. I never went to a doctor to ask about contraception anyway. the injection thing sounds interesting.
I never said people should remain virgins their whole lives, but if you do have sex, be prepared for children.
Adopting from other countries is not as simple as you're making it out to be and just because there are other adoption programs doesnt mean it's ok to murder babies over here.
There is no lack of children waiting to be adopted. That's a myth (In Canada anyway). Right now, there is 20,000 waiting. And they aren't newborn. Some of them have been waiting for years.
then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
If they are unable to have kids, it's sad for them, but there is a lot of children from other countries like China who are waiting to be adopted. Not only from America. ''If you don't want babies don't have sex?''. That's not really realistic as a statement, people don't stay virgins until they're ready to have kids. Anyway, not EVERYONE wants kids. Should they remain chaste all their lives?
Sometimes protection fails, too. Even if you take up your responsabilities.
Oh, and I never heard about those sort of contraception. I never went to a doctor to ask about contraception anyway. the injection thing sounds interesting.
I never said people should remain virgins their whole lives, but if you do have sex, be prepared for children.
Adopting from other countries is not as simple as you're making it out to be and just because there are other adoption programs doesnt mean it's ok to murder babies over here.
There is no lack of children waiting to be adopted. That's a myth (In Canada anyway). Right now, there is 20,000 waiting. And they aren't newborn. Some of them have been waiting for years.
Way to ignore the rest of my post.
And do you have a source for that statistic? I doubt it.
So you're saying just because there is extra, we have the right to kill off others? Thats terrible logic.
Matt Smith Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134
July 28th, 2006 at 08:27pm
Statistics are irrelevant.
Everyone has a right to life, whether you have the misfortune to be squeezed out of someones uterus in a country with two orphans or two million.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
July 28th, 2006 at 09:58pm
Apocalypse:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
Apocalypse:
^
Girls who have abortions aren't automatically fucking anyone just like that. They can be in need of an abortion and still be in a relationship with someone.
No One needs an abortion unless it's for Medical purposes and their life is endanger or they were raped. Aside from those 2 things, no one needs and abortion.
wants then. And why exactly does a rape victim needs an abortion? Because she doesn't want the baby? Well it's the same thing for everyone else.
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and because they're brainwashed into thinking that it's sexist not giving women a "choice"
It's not a matter of being brainwashed. It's what you believe in, and I believe women should have a choice. Forcing a woman to give birth against her will is sick.
that's what I mean by brainwashed
you think that women don't have a choice
action = consiquence
you believe in anti-consiquence, not pro-choice
they had the choice not to get banged up in the first place
but they had unprotected sex, that created life, and taking away a life for the pleasure of sex is sick
here's how it should be: (I'll just add, "in my opinion" because some people guess that my post affects the actual world and go crazy over it)
abortion should be outlawed
if the person claims they were raped (since it takes more than nine months to decide) then they can undergo an abortion, if the offender is found innocent of the charge of rape then the woman goes to jail for first degree murder and purgery
they had a choice, they could have not had unprotected sex
that's what I mean by brainwashed
you think that women don't have a choice
action = consiquence
you believe in anti-consiquence, not pro-choice
they had the choice not to get banged up in the first place
but they had unprotected sex, that created life, and taking away a life for the pleasure of sex is sick
here's how it should be: (I'll just add, "in my opinion" because some people guess that my post affects the actual world and go crazy over it)
abortion should be outlawed
if the person claims they were raped (since it takes more than nine months to decide) then they can undergo an abortion, if the offender is found innocent of the charge of rape then the woman goes to jail for first degree murder and purgery
they had a choice, they could have not had unprotected sex
Exactly. "pro-choice" is so sugarcoated. Who would want to take away someones right to make choices for themselves? No one would without good reason, but thats what abortion does. The baby being aborted didn't choose to be, it never even had an option to choose. Aside for abortion being murder, it basically says having unprotected Sex is ok, because you can always do away with the consequence, and that is so sick and wrong, that you can take away another life because of your mistake.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
July 28th, 2006 at 11:30pm
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
that's what I mean by brainwashed
you think that women don't have a choice
action = consiquence
you believe in anti-consiquence, not pro-choice
they had the choice not to get banged up in the first place
but they had unprotected sex, that created life, and taking away a life for the pleasure of sex is sick
here's how it should be: (I'll just add, "in my opinion" because some people guess that my post affects the actual world and go crazy over it)
abortion should be outlawed
if the person claims they were raped (since it takes more than nine months to decide) then they can undergo an abortion, if the offender is found innocent of the charge of rape then the woman goes to jail for first degree murder and purgery
they had a choice, they could have not had unprotected sex
Exactly. "pro-choice" is so sugarcoated. Who would want to take away someones right to make choices for themselves? No one would without good reason, but thats what abortion does. The baby being aborted didn't choose to be, it never even had an option to choose. Aside for abortion being murder, it basically says having unprotected Sex is ok, because you can always do away with the consequence, and that is so sick and wrong, that you can take away another life because of your mistake.
finally, some one agrees
asthenia. Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 8632
July 29th, 2006 at 12:15am
spill_no_sick:
I_worship_tre_Cool:
spill_no_sick:
that's what I mean by brainwashed
you think that women don't have a choice
action = consiquence
you believe in anti-consiquence, not pro-choice
they had the choice not to get banged up in the first place
but they had unprotected sex, that created life, and taking away a life for the pleasure of sex is sick
here's how it should be: (I'll just add, "in my opinion" because some people guess that my post affects the actual world and go crazy over it)
abortion should be outlawed
if the person claims they were raped (since it takes more than nine months to decide) then they can undergo an abortion, if the offender is found innocent of the charge of rape then the woman goes to jail for first degree murder and purgery
they had a choice, they could have not had unprotected sex
Exactly. "pro-choice" is so sugarcoated. Who would want to take away someones right to make choices for themselves? No one would without good reason, but thats what abortion does. The baby being aborted didn't choose to be, it never even had an option to choose. Aside for abortion being murder, it basically says having unprotected Sex is ok, because you can always do away with the consequence, and that is so sick and wrong, that you can take away another life because of your mistake.
finally, some one agrees
i agree too. that's pretty much what i think. also, if someone got pregnant and she didn't want the baby, why not give the baby up for adoption? there are thousands of couples who want children but can't have their own and would love to adopt.
spill_no_sick Falling In Love With The Board Age: 31 Gender: - Posts: 8588
July 29th, 2006 at 12:19am
katie's not grey:
i agree too. that's pretty much what i think. also, if someone got pregnant and she didn't want the baby, why not give the baby up for adoption? there are thousands of couples who want children but can't have their own and would love to adopt.
as some one pointed out there are too many kids in foster homes...then as Courtney pointed out that it's no reason to murder potential foster children
Remarkable Rocket Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5761
July 29th, 2006 at 01:54am
Someone said earlier they were glad that the auther used the term "pro-abortion" and I object against the term very strongly...
"Pro-Abortion" brings to mind someone who says "GO GET PREGNANT NOW! So you can have an abortion" ... "DON'T USE A CONDOM so you can have an abortion"
I don't think anyone is going around screaming and cheering about how wonderful abortions are.
I agree.. that If you can.. you are in the right situation in life.. financially.. mentally... physically.. and an appropriate age (as for as your moral standpoint goes).. than you should have the baby... Whether you keep it or put it up for abortion.. thats up to you.
However.. if you are not in the right situation.. financially.. mentally.. physically.. and an inappropriate age... and by having an abortion.. you personally think it is best for you... than that is probably the best thing for you to do.
Thats why I prefer the term "Pro-Choice."
If I were to have get pregnant now.. I would have an abortion.
Matt Smith Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134
July 29th, 2006 at 01:59am
"Pro- Choice", Pro- Abortion...either way you're still murdering, however you look at it.
I wouldn't have an abortion because I would have a responsibility to the unfortunate foetus that implanted itself within me, I can't just hack it out and be done with it. Murder isn't my thing.
asthenia. Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 8632
July 29th, 2006 at 02:09am
Bloodraine:
"Pro- Choice", Pro- Abortion...either way you're still murdering, however you look at it.
I wouldn't have an abortion because I would have a responsibility to the unfortunate foetus that implanted itself within me, I can't just hack it out and be done with it. Murder isn't my thing.
i agree with you on that one. if i ever got an abortion (trust me, i won't) i would feel guilty about it for the rest of my life.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
July 29th, 2006 at 02:34am
Bloodraine:
"Pro- Choice", Pro- Abortion...either way you're still murdering, however you look at it.
I wouldn't have an abortion because I would have a responsibility to the unfortunate foetus that implanted itself within me, I can't just hack it out and be done with it. Murder isn't my thing.
I agree, I could not live with myself if I did have an abortion, and, if any guy I was going out with ever tried to have sex with me, and not use a condom, I would tell him to get ready to be a father, and I would make it clear that I would not consider an abortion.
Although I think its better if you use a condom and the pill, because then you have two different types of contraception, and that reduces the risk of getting pregnant even more.
Lucifers Angel King For A Couple Of Days Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 4751
July 29th, 2006 at 06:29am
Apocalypse:
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then they should think about the joy it will bring a couple who are unable to have kids, dont want children then the answer is simple dont have sex or make sure that you go to the dr and have some sort of contraception.
If they are unable to have kids, it's sad for them, but there is a lot of children from other countries like China who are waiting to be adopted. Not only from America. ''If you don't want babies don't have sex?''. That's not really realistic as a statement, people don't stay virgins until they're ready to have kids. Anyway, not EVERYONE wants kids. Should they remain chaste all their lives?
Sometimes protection fails, too. Even if you take up your responsabilities.
Oh, and I never heard about those sort of contraception. I never went to a doctor to ask about contraception anyway. the injection thing sounds interesting.
not every one can just pop over to there local third world country and adopt a child you know, women should be prepared that if they have un protected sex then the chances are they will have a baby nine months later, there are lots and lots of forms of contracetpions, in a lot of ways i dont belive that you should have an abortion if the child is sick either because nothing is 100% until the child is here,
yes the injection thing is interesting, you have the injection every 3 months and then you dont have any periods, but it realises all the hormones that your body needs, oh yeah and they inject the needle in your bum cheek and it hurts.
the injection thing sounds interesting.
