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Anji
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 | April 19th, 2007 at 01:44pm druscilla; in rags:Bloodraine:Meski:I think abortion is good. Many people have sexual relations without a condom because they are too drunk or have no money. Just think you've just found out you're pregnant, what would you do? The easiest thing would be abortion as it takes care fo the problem quickly.
Eh, excuse me, but a baby is not a 'problem' that should be dealt with quickly.
If you don't use a condom from being too drunk or too poor, then everything is entirely your own damn fault, and if you decide to murder that baby because of your own stupid mistake, then a murderer is exactly what you are.
They type of people that would kill a child because of that are the type of people that don't deserve a choice.
Yes, but then you have to think that the baby will be born probably with FAS, malnourished, possibly miscarried or stillborn, and then placed in foster care for the rest of it's life.
Which is worse? Having that life or never having it? My mother miscarried at six months. She still cries when it's mentioned. Do you know how fortunate anything is to be alive? They shouldn't be denied that chance. If drug addicts can live, why can't disabled or mental kids? |
cabot gal
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 | April 19th, 2007 at 01:45pm druscilla; in rags:Excluding the people who are currently in the situation.
Nobody can ever really know until they are in the situation what they would do.
But for the most part, I think people that aren't facing the decision would rather people didn't need or get an abortion.
Pro-choice people believe that they should have a choice, whereas pro-life people don't. I don't think anyone would rather get an abortion.
Everyone is pro-choice, surely? If you believe you should have a choice in life, then you are pro-choice. Pro-life could mean anything, life for the baby or a life for the mother. |
Brendon Urie..
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| April 19th, 2007 at 01:46pm Anji:druscilla; in rags:Bloodraine:Meski:I think abortion is good. Many people have sexual relations without a condom because they are too drunk or have no money. Just think you've just found out you're pregnant, what would you do? The easiest thing would be abortion as it takes care fo the problem quickly.
Eh, excuse me, but a baby is not a 'problem' that should be dealt with quickly.
If you don't use a condom from being too drunk or too poor, then everything is entirely your own damn fault, and if you decide to murder that baby because of your own stupid mistake, then a murderer is exactly what you are.
They type of people that would kill a child because of that are the type of people that don't deserve a choice.
Yes, but then you have to think that the baby will be born probably with FAS, malnourished, possibly miscarried or stillborn, and then placed in foster care for the rest of it's life.
Which is worse? Having that life or never having it? My mother miscarried at six months. She still cries when it's mentioned. Do you know how fortunate anything is to be alive? They shouldn't be denied that chance. If drug addicts can live, why can't disabled or mental kids?
I'm not saying they can't.
But if my friend was popping pills, drinking every night, and having unprotected sex and got pregnant I would feel terrible for the child she is bringing into the world.
I would feel that it's merciful to get an abortion in that case. |
NeoSteph
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| April 19th, 2007 at 01:48pm most alco-pop baby difficulties can be medically cared for. Also with the outlook of it being hard for them to live in foster that would happen to a very very smalle amount of baby's as they most wanted for adoption. |
Brendon Urie..
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| April 19th, 2007 at 01:50pm NeoSteph:most alco-pop baby difficulties can be medically cared for. Also with the outlook of it being hard for them to live in foster that would happen to a very very smalle amount of baby's as they most wanted for adoption.
Most people don't want to adopt disabled babies. |
cabot gal
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| April 19th, 2007 at 01:51pm druscilla; in rags:NeoSteph:most alco-pop baby difficulties can be medically cared for. Also with the outlook of it being hard for them to live in foster that would happen to a very very smalle amount of baby's as they most wanted for adoption.
Most people don't want to adopt disabled babies. Most babies up for adoption are disabled though.
If someone is thinking of adoption, then they must know what they're letting themselves into. |
Vanity
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Posts: 4708 | April 20th, 2007 at 12:31am Meski:I think abortion is good. Many people have sexual relations without a condom because they are too drunk or have no money. Just think you've just found out you're pregnant, what would you do? The easiest thing would be abortion as it takes care fo the problem quickly.
A baby is not a problem. It's a blessing.
I don't have a whole lot of money to my name, and neither does my boyfriend, and a month ago I found out I am pregnant (which in the US is one of the worst positions to be in). Of course I reacted with shock at first, but we are both taking responsibility for what we've done. Were pretty low on the financial chain, and he was probably drunk when I got pregnant, but being either of those is no excuse to get an abortion. There are ALWAYS other options.
BTW, I don't mean to sound like I'm yelling at you. |
lyrical_mess
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| April 20th, 2007 at 01:40pm I just read that the US Congress is continuing that ban on partial abortions, but that was a headline and the link won't work.
Sooo...can someone tell me what partial abortions are? |
Anji
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| April 20th, 2007 at 01:54pm lyrical_mess:I just read that the US Congress is continuing that ban on partial abortions, but that was a headline and the link won't work.
Sooo...can someone tell me what partial abortions are? They abort part of the baby. Like, a leg of something.
No, partial birth abortion is sometimes done during the second and third trimester. The baby is delivered feet first as opposed tp head first. The surgoen leaves the head inside, cuts a hole in the skull and puts a tube into the head. He ten proceeds to suck out the brain with the tube, leaving the baby brainless, i.e. dead.
It's disgusting. |
lyrical_mess
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| April 20th, 2007 at 02:20pm OH. My. God.
Ew. Seriously, that's just gross. What happens to the head, then? And who would want that?
And I can see why it's banned. |
Misanthropist
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Posts: 23279 | April 20th, 2007 at 02:47pm Anji:]They abort part of the baby. Like, a leg of something.
No, partial birth abortion is sometimes done during the second and third trimester. The baby is delivered feet first as opposed tp head first. The surgoen leaves the head inside, cuts a hole in the skull and puts a tube into the head. He ten proceeds to suck out the brain with the tube, leaving the baby brainless, i.e. dead.
It's disgusting.
I've read about that. It's such a brutal way to have an abortion, so...twisted.
Nothing is as interesting/disturbing as searching up abortions and reading about the lengths some people go through to get rid of their unwanted baby. |
Anji
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| April 20th, 2007 at 03:28pm lyrical_mess:OH. My. God.
Ew. Seriously, that's just gross. What happens to the head, then? And who would want that?
And I can see why it's banned. I think they leave the head inside because once they drain the brain out, the skull collapses. Then they just, pull that baby out.
It really is cruel. |
Anji
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| April 20th, 2007 at 03:30pm And it's partial birth abortion. Maybe it got shortened though, but shortened sounds stupid, like they abort half the baby. Yeah, partial birth cause it's born halfway and premature and then just killed.
Pro-abortion people cannot say that I'm making it seem more cruel than it is. I'm trying to use un-biased words, but it is so very cruel. |
Lucifers Angel
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Posts: 4751 | April 20th, 2007 at 04:29pm Anji:And it's partial birth abortion. Maybe it got shortened though, but shortened sounds stupid, like they abort half the baby. Yeah, partial birth cause it's born halfway and premature and then just killed.
Pro-abortion people cannot say that I'm making it seem more cruel than it is. I'm trying to use un-biased words, but it is so very cruel.
yeah your right, its cruelty at its worst for the human race, when are we going to allow people to just kill they're children, because that will be the next thing, because it will be the cave men used to kill they're kids if they couldnt look after them.
ok perhaps thats a bit extreme but i am convinced that in about 20 years we will be so cruel to everything. |
Brendon Urie..
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| April 20th, 2007 at 06:39pm druscilla; in rags:The 5-4 decision written by Justice
Anthony Kennedy said the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act that Congress passed and
President Bush signed into law in 2003 does not violate a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
The law is constitutional despite not containing an exception that would allow the procedure if needed to preserve a woman's health.
That's wrong.
I disagree with Partial-Birth Abortions except in the case of the mother's health.
Said Eve Gartner of the
Planned Parenthood Federation of America: "This ruling flies in the face of 30 years of Supreme Court precedent and the best interest of women's health and safety. ... This ruling tells women that politicians, not doctors, will make their health care decisions for them." |
Matt Smith
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| April 21st, 2007 at 08:06am Except in the case of the mother's health?
Well, mothers health is cool and all, but do we have to save her in such a brutal and bloodthirsty way?
I mean, don't they do some thing with potassium injections, also?
They kill the baby with injections and then induce the labour to deliver the dead baby. That sounds inevitably more humane, at least the poor thing is dead as a result of some quick injection and not being half-born then having its brain sucked out.
Also. Quick thought. If a woman has a heart condition or whatever that means carrying a baby would be super-bad for her, wouldn't you just be really, really, really careful with contraception?
Nobody would be really that stupid, knowing that having a baby would be bad for them, and possibly kill them, to go and get theselves up the duff. |
Brendon Urie..
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| April 21st, 2007 at 11:11am Bloodraine:Except in the case of the mother's health?
Well, mothers health is cool and all, but do we have to save her in such a brutal and bloodthirsty way?
I mean, don't they do some thing with potassium injections, also?
They kill the baby with injections and then induce the labour to deliver the dead baby. That sounds inevitably more humane, at least the poor thing is dead as a result of some quick injection and not being half-born then having its brain sucked out.
Also. Quick thought. If a woman has a heart condition or whatever that means carrying a baby would be super-bad for her, wouldn't you just be really, really, really careful with contraception?
Nobody would be really that stupid, knowing that having a baby would be bad for them, and possibly kill them, to go and get theselves up the duff.
I mean if the woman is going to die or get severely hurt delivering the child. |
PentatonicA
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Posts: 85 | April 21st, 2007 at 11:22am People goes on discussing abortion forgetting that the main core subject here is reproduction.
Why people don't debate over being "pro-birth" or "anti-birth"? Because is a touchy subject that they’d rather avoid it or overlook it as a pre conceived notion that reproduction is a good thing. |
Matt Smith
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| April 21st, 2007 at 02:54pm druscilla; in rags:Bloodraine:Except in the case of the mother's health?
Well, mothers health is cool and all, but do we have to save her in such a brutal and bloodthirsty way?
I mean, don't they do some thing with potassium injections, also?
They kill the baby with injections and then induce the labour to deliver the dead baby. That sounds inevitably more humane, at least the poor thing is dead as a result of some quick injection and not being half-born then having its brain sucked out.
Also. Quick thought. If a woman has a heart condition or whatever that means carrying a baby would be super-bad for her, wouldn't you just be really, really, really careful with contraception?
Nobody would be really that stupid, knowing that having a baby would be bad for them, and possibly kill them, to go and get theselves up the duff.
I mean if the woman is going to die or get severely hurt delivering the child.
Caesarean? |
Matt Smith
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| April 21st, 2007 at 02:56pm PentatonicA:People goes on discussing abortion forgetting that the main core subject here is reproduction.
Why people don't debate over being "pro-birth" or "anti-birth"? Because is a touchy subject that they’d rather avoid it or overlook it as a pre conceived notion that reproduction is a good thing.
Most humans aren't cynical enough to want humans to die out completely, so most people are 'pro-reproduction' as a foregon conclusion. Even people who elect to remain childless generally don't think that nobody should ever have children. It seems stupid to me. |
