Veganism/vegetarianism

I choose not to eat meat for the following reasons:

1. Too many diseases...
2. Too many cases of food not being cooked properly.
3. I am against harm to animals.
4. Tofu is a complete protein... meat is not.

I love CHURTLES!!:

My sister is a vegitarian but she still eats fish....
she just doesn't like the taste of meat
and with the way they pump all are meat with additives, steriods, and other drugs
i'm slowly becoming a vegitarian too
I already oppose animal testing and clothing made from animals

Pescitarian.


I considered becoming one, but I don't wanna live without Lasagne so uh no.

Be Your Own Pet!:

and i chose to eat meat but its my opinion that its stupid because i can see absolutly no harm in eating animals and no benefit in not

You can't see that maybe other people care about animals getting killed?! Are you blind? Just because you may not have a heart and a mind for what your steak goes through before you're big mouth, don't mean that other people don't. Some people worry about the treatement of animals in mass farming. Other people view animals as people and think that they shouldn't be killed. And a small majority of people are allergic, or have a condition where they are unable to eat meat, does that make them stupid? I don't think so. For being so dumbly ignorant, I'm calling you stupid.

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

I have a slight problem with being a vegetarian/vegan.

My sister hasn't eaten meat for about 5 years now. She had no real reason behind it, didn't even think about it for that long, she just came home one day and said "I'm a vegetarian."

Fair enough to her, I admire the will power and strength she has because I know I wouldn't be able to give up meat, as I have tried and failed many a time.

The problem I have is that I have a nut allergy. I don't have a choice on some things that I can, or cannot eat. I know one allergy isn't all that important, but if you think about people who are allergic to milk and wheat and you think about the choices that they have with their food, it's quite slim.

Even slimmer for a person in a third world country; I'm sure they wouldn't be too fussy with what their eating.

There's just something that I'm not comfortable about when it comes to being a vegetarian, when people have the luxury of having a choice of what they want to eat and what they don't, whereas others simply can't do that.

Just my two cents.

Be Your Own Pet!:

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

You never figure that maybe some people don't like the taste of meat? Or some people can't afford meat sometimes, as a hard up student, I eat salads most of the time.

Be Your Own Pet!:

and i chose to eat meat but its my opinion that its stupid because i can see absolutly no harm in eating animals and no benefit in not

I hate to burst your bubble but just because you see no harm in eating meat doesn't mean that every other person in the world is going to agree with everything you say, and it would be extremely arrogant to think so.

You're right, you choose to eat meat and that's your opinion, and that's fine and dandy, but there is this wonderful thing called opposition that allows people to have their own opinions, it's lovely. In pretty much every single post you make you have aboslutely no respect for other opinions and to be honest with you that is a horrible trait to have. Just because you disagree with something does not in any way, shape or form make it stupid.

Some people chose to become vegetarians because they feel that the industry of slaughtering animals is horrible. Humane farms don't exist to be honest, the animals were still bred with only the purpose of dying in life (how humane is that.. oh wait it isnt..). They are still slaughtered, there isn't anything humane about that at all.They might not have suffered before hand but they sure as hell weren't happy. I can tell you being confined to a cage for your (short) life isn't too appealing. They also might not agree with the amount of the animal that is wasted during slaughtering, and they may just find it cruel to kill animals in general, it is completely possible to survive without them.

Some people for medical reasons can't eat meat. They have conditions with their digestive track that doesn't allow them to process the complete proteins and they have to get incomplete proteins from fruits and vegetables. Some people with thyroid problems use it as a way to help control their weight. Some people practice vegetarianism for cultural and religious reasons. Ever heard of Gnosticism?Hinduism?Jainism? Im guessing you more than likely haven't based on your extremely narrowminded attitude towards the subejct.

Not to mention the health benifits of not consuming meat products. Diets without meat can signifigantly lower the saturated fats and choleterol that people consume. Also, in order to replace those meats you consume a higher amount of vitamins and minerals. You can get all the proteins you need from foods other than meat like leafy greens, nuts, soy milk, ect. Vegetarians tend to have a much lower risk of heart disease and high blood pressure.

Yet another one of those benifits that you can't seem to see is the environmental factor. Industrilization has lead to high farming rates, destroying land that was once the habitat of wildlife. This is actually according to government surveys one of the most popular reasons for vegetarianism, not so much that it's wrong to eat animals, but it's harming our environment the way we do it. We obviously need farmland to grow food for people, but we need a helluva lot more to feed all the animals we consume, whcih takes up even more land.

So, before you go off and call something stupid it would be nice if you would actually know what you're talking about and understand your topic, because you obviously have very limited knowledge of this subject and you made an extremely harsh judgement about it.

Be Your Own Pet!:

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

Oh yes, those heart attacks on buns are just lovely! Fast food, especially hamburgers contribute greatly to obesity and heart disease. I consider that to be a risk, a pretty damn big one seeing as how it is the most common cause of death of men and women over the age of 20. All of the fat is terrible for your body, and it provides you with almost no Antioxidants. Fruits and vegetables, however, are great sources for Antioxidants.

Kurtni:

Be Your Own Pet!:

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

Oh yes, those heart attacks on buns are just lovely! Fast food, especially hamburgers contribute greatly to obesity and heart disease. I consider that to be a risk, a pretty damn big one seeing as how it is the most common cause of death of men and women over the age of 20. All of the fat is terrible for your body, and it provides you with almost no Antioxidants. Fruits and vegetables, however, are great sources for Antioxidants.

mostly it's the grease that does it, Meat grilled properly greatly helps the iron levels in your body and your digestive track. Also the best supplier of protein.

Saying don't eat meat because of fast food is like saying don't eat vegetable because of additive added when farming, it's a pretty equal scope.

Organic everything people! (i really want the smiley with the glasses added.)

NeoSteph:

mostly it's the grease that does it, Meat grilled properly greatly helps the iron levels in your body and your digestive track. Also the best supplier of protein.

Saying don't eat meat because of fast food is like saying don't eat vegetable because of additive added when farming, it's a pretty equal scope.

Organic everything people! (i really want the smiley with the glasses added.)

Which is why I specified I was talking about fast food, because its basically grease with meat sprinkeled in a few places. I didn't say fast food alone was a reason to not eat meat, I made a nice long post about it. I really don't have a problem with people who eat meat, it's their own choice and I respect that. But I do have a problem when people accuse others of being stupid for choosing not to.

Great Success.

Be Your Own Pet!:

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

Y'all can go and tell that to the people who died of mad cow disease

Do you actually know about those laws?
I'm sure if the laws were so strict, the outbreak in the nineties wouldn't have happened.

Kurtni:

NeoSteph:

mostly it's the grease that does it, Meat grilled properly greatly helps the iron levels in your body and your digestive track. Also the best supplier of protein.

Saying don't eat meat because of fast food is like saying don't eat vegetable because of additive added when farming, it's a pretty equal scope.

Organic everything people! (i really want the smiley with the glasses added.)

Which is why I specified I was talking about fast food, because its basically grease with meat sprinkeled in a few places. I didn't say fast food alone was a reason to not eat meat, I made a nice long post about it. I really don't have a problem with people who eat meat, it's their own choice and I respect that. But I do have a problem when people accuse others of being stupid for choosing not to.

Great Success.

ah yes but the person you were replying to wasn't specifically discussing fast food. Your comments were directing people to think that majority of meat eaters do.

I don't judge vegetarians it's a life choice, however i would call them silly if they weren't taking iron supplements to balance their diet. where there's a will there's a way.

I'm back baby!

NeoSteph:

ah yes but the person you were replying to wasn't specifically discussing fast food. Your comments were directing people to think that majority of meat eaters do.

I don't judge vegetarians it's a life choice, however i would call them silly if they weren't taking iron supplements to balance their diet. where there's a will there's a way.

I'm back baby!

I know they weren't talking specifically about fast food.. which is exactly why I said that I was. I never said the majority of meat eaters only eat fast food, but I did say it's a contributing factor to heat disease and things of that sort because it is and it was relevant to the person I was replying to claiming there was no risk, when there is.

Kurtni:

NeoSteph:

ah yes but the person you were replying to wasn't specifically discussing fast food. Your comments were directing people to think that majority of meat eaters do.

I don't judge vegetarians it's a life choice, however i would call them silly if they weren't taking iron supplements to balance their diet. where there's a will there's a way.

I'm back baby!

I know they weren't talking specifically about fast food.. which is exactly why I said that I was. I never said the majority of meat eaters only eat fast food, but I did say it's a contributing factor to heat disease and things of that sort because it is and it was relevant to the person I was replying to claiming there was no risk, when there is.

But by a large margin there is only a risk to those who eat meat from fast food restaurants, so by only bringing this up in your thread your assuming. It's like me saying if your vegetarian then your going to get an iron defiancy when in reality that only happens to some.

NeoSteph:

But by a large margin there is only a risk to those who eat meat from fast food restaurants, so by only bringing this up in your thread your assuming. It's like me saying if your vegetarian then your going to get an iron defiancy when in reality that only happens to some.

How was I assuming? I specifically said I was talking about those who eat fast food, I didn't mention other types of meat because that wasn't what I was talking about. You can obviously eat other types of meat cooked in other ways that are perfectly healthy for you. it isn't like that. It would be like you saying those who don't balance their diet with supplements get an iron deficancy, because I wasn't talking about the entire population of those who eat meat.

I have serioously considered becoming vegan but I don't think that my dad would support my decision. it also might be hard for my mom to buy different foods for me.

NeoSteph:

I don't understand why vegans think fruit has feeling, there not exactly alive

A balanced diet includes meat for protein, it's also good for your jaw, are molars in our mouths are meant for meat. I only eat free range though.

erm vegans dont think fruit has feeling you nutter! i think your confused with 'About a boy' the film and the fruitarian haha i like you... your crazy!

The thing I like about living in Thailand and eating Thai food is that it is almost all entirely free range. There aren't many big mass meat producing farms and alsughter houses around here since there just isn't enough money. Ironically enough, the richer restaurants are more likely to be found serving these type of slaughter house meats whereas the poorer restaurants founded by people with family members in the country often buy their food from their own relatives in the country as a way of send money back to the family. In the country everything is pretty much free range. My uncle owns my grandfather's chicken farm now. I know how to kill chickens but I've never done it, I just gut them. And those very chickens I help gut and clean and freeze and package end up in the nicer, smaller, little restaurants.

I wanted to go vegetarian several years ago but my parents said no, mainly because I had a lot more growing to do and meat in my diet would beneficial this.

I eventually did become a vegetarian however, and have been for 20 months now

Bloodraine:

Be Your Own Pet!:

then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about

Y'all can go and tell that to the people who died of mad cow disease

Do you actually know about those laws?
I'm sure if the laws were so strict, the outbreak in the nineties wouldn't have happened.

i do know these laws actually, i've been having to research them for a bio report
and its because of the 90s outbreak that the laws are so strict now