Bones Falling In Love With The Board Age: 36 Gender: Female Posts: 5734
April 17th, 2007 at 03:02pm
Anji:
The thing I like about living in Thailand and eating Thai food is that it is almost all entirely free range. There aren't many big mass meat producing farms and alsughter houses around here since there just isn't enough money. Ironically enough, the richer restaurants are more likely to be found serving these type of slaughter house meats whereas the poorer restaurants founded by people with family members in the country often buy their food from their own relatives in the country as a way of send money back to the family. In the country everything is pretty much free range. My uncle owns my grandfather's chicken farm now. I know how to kill chickens but I've never done it, I just gut them. And those very chickens I help gut and clean and freeze and package end up in the nicer, smaller, little restaurants.
thats the word i was looking for free range
i meant free range when i said organic but same thing really
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Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
April 21st, 2007 at 01:25am
Elegant Ruble:
then eat ones from organic farms
they garantee that animals arent abused before being slaughtered
its not stupid if u cant eat because of an allergy but i think its a stupid choice beacause a nice big juicy hamburger just tastes too good
and there's no risk of it not being cooked properlly if u know what you're doing and there are very strict laws on shipping that minimize the risk of contaimentation to the point its not even worth worrying about
It's up to the person to decide what they want to do.
Personally, I am a vegetarian for two reasons; I don't like the taste of meat, and I can't bring myself to eat something that used to be alive.
Anyways, I hate hamburgers and even when I wasn't a vegetarian, I never ate them.
charlie TERR0R Shoot Me, I'm A Newbie Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 13
April 21st, 2007 at 04:21am
I am a vegetarian, and I don't nesscarily do it for the animals, I just don't like the taste of steak and meat and all that. I mean sure, once I became one I did think about the animals, but its not why I became one.
I can't bring myself to eat something that used to be alive.
Vegetables used to be alive. Practically anything you eat used to be a living organism.
Maybe you mean something that was conscious of being alive.
Just slightly off topic, but here's a poem by Roger McGough called 'Vegetarians' which I think is hilarious:
Vegetarians are cruel unthinking people.
Everybody knows that a carrot screams when grated.
That a peach bleeds when torn apart.
Do you believe an orange insensitive
To thumbs gouging out its flesh?
Those tomatoes spill their brains painlessly,
Potatoes skinned alive and boiled,
The soil's little lobsters.
Don't tell me it doesn't hurt
When peas are ripped from their overcoats,
The hide flayed off sprouts,
Cabbage shredded, onions beheaded.
Throw in the trowel and lay down the hoe.
Mow no more.
Let my people go!
Anyway, I see humans as omnivores - with meat being just a part of our varied diet.
Everyone keeps arguing about cruelty to animals. I think the answer is not to stop eating meat, but to ensure a humane rearing of these animals.
For example the Kosher slaughter of animals uses a very sharp knife to minimise pain, and slit the throat in a way that causes the animal to lose consciousness immediately due to loss of blood pressure to the head. I've also heard something about keeping the animal in completely calm conditions (for example not letting them see the knife) before they're killed...but I'm not completely sure.
Matt Smith Admin Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 31134
April 21st, 2007 at 07:55am
rehabreject:
Everyone keeps arguing about cruelty to animals. I think the answer is not to stop eating meat, but to ensure a humane rearing of these animals.
For example the Kosher slaughter of animals uses a very sharp knife to minimise pain, and slit the throat in a way that causes the animal to lose consciousness immediately due to loss of blood pressure to the head. I've also heard something about keeping the animal in completely calm conditions (for example not letting them see the knife) before they're killed...but I'm not completely sure.
Yes; but even so, would that satisfy the PETA brigade?
I have a feeling we could treat animals with complete love, respect and care and give them brilliant lives before sending them off to a quick, painless, anaesthetised slaughter, but then those animal rights people would protest nontheless. At the end of the day, the animal is still going to die, and they would never sanction that. So these "go vegetarian" videos that bombard you with slideshows of animals being bludgeoned, battery caged and beaten are pointless to me. Bullshit. You know, you're PETA for christ's sake, you won't rest until no animals whatsoever are killed, regardless of conditions.
Everyone keeps arguing about cruelty to animals. I think the answer is not to stop eating meat, but to ensure a humane rearing of these animals.
For example the Kosher slaughter of animals uses a very sharp knife to minimise pain, and slit the throat in a way that causes the animal to lose consciousness immediately due to loss of blood pressure to the head. I've also heard something about keeping the animal in completely calm conditions (for example not letting them see the knife) before they're killed...but I'm not completely sure.
Yes; but even so, would that satisfy the PETA brigade?
I have a feeling we could treat animals with complete love, respect and care and give them brilliant lives before sending them off to a quick, painless, anaesthetised slaughter, but then those animal rights people would protest nontheless. At the end of the day, the animal is still going to die, and they would never sanction that. So these "go vegetarian" videos that bombard you with slideshows of animals being bludgeoned, battery caged and beaten are pointless to me. Bullshit. You know, you're PETA for christ's sake, you won't rest until no animals whatsoever are killed, regardless of conditions.
PETA won't be satisfied with anything we do, but if their complaining forces us to turn farming into anything like the love-fest you described; millions of animals might just be better off than before. A huge acomplishment if you ask me, even if we don't fulfill their standards.
The whole human population is not going to stop eating meat anytime soon. Even if everyone did go vegetarian, animals would be killed for other purposes.
Just a footnote: if we anaethetised the animal before slaughter - the drug would remain in the meat afterwards. That may not be dangerous, but you know how uptight everyone is these days about 'chemicals' in their food...
So what do you think about being a vegan? Are you one? Share your thoughts here.
Personally i never was a vegan until i found really disturbing pics on the internet, and trust me,it is not a pretty sight actually its very disgusting and crude. So i will never eat meat again nor will i wear leather/fur or anything like that. I think that honestly its all up to you what you belive but it is truely a disturbing,and crude thing to do to any living thing.
Love my Insanity:
I think these videos speak for themselves. I, personally, have been a vegetarian for 2 years straight. You may say, "That takes a lot of willpower." But it just depends if you get the right information and choose to do something about it. Whether you boycot meat, or revolt against it with running butt naked in Spain for the bulls. Just watch these:
You can call me a hippie, but don't say my rants are useless, because these animals are in danger.
What do you think?
I recently became a veggie! -lol- I still struggle to adapt to eating habits that don't include massive amounts of protein and at the same time avoid fat is almost impossible. I'm taking a whole battery of supplements.
At first it was a shock to the system and I felt constantly tired and weak, now I'm more settled.
Why I decided to go veggie? Spiritual reasons.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
April 22nd, 2007 at 01:26am
rehabreject:
Bloodraine:
rehabreject:
Everyone keeps arguing about cruelty to animals. I think the answer is not to stop eating meat, but to ensure a humane rearing of these animals.
For example the Kosher slaughter of animals uses a very sharp knife to minimise pain, and slit the throat in a way that causes the animal to lose consciousness immediately due to loss of blood pressure to the head. I've also heard something about keeping the animal in completely calm conditions (for example not letting them see the knife) before they're killed...but I'm not completely sure.
Yes; but even so, would that satisfy the PETA brigade?
I have a feeling we could treat animals with complete love, respect and care and give them brilliant lives before sending them off to a quick, painless, anaesthetised slaughter, but then those animal rights people would protest nontheless. At the end of the day, the animal is still going to die, and they would never sanction that. So these "go vegetarian" videos that bombard you with slideshows of animals being bludgeoned, battery caged and beaten are pointless to me. Bullshit. You know, you're PETA for christ's sake, you won't rest until no animals whatsoever are killed, regardless of conditions.
PETA won't be satisfied with anything we do, but if their complaining forces us to turn farming into anything like the love-fest you described; millions of animals might just be better off than before. A huge acomplishment if you ask me, even if we don't fulfill their standards.
The whole human population is not going to stop eating meat anytime soon. Even if everyone did go vegetarian, animals would be killed for other purposes.
Just a footnote: if we anaethetised the animal before slaughter - the drug would remain in the meat afterwards. That may not be dangerous, but you know how uptight everyone is these days about 'chemicals' in their food...
Christ, PETA wouldn't be happy if everyone in the world gave their homes away to animals and fed them luxurious treats and cleaned after their shit and never touched them again.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
April 22nd, 2007 at 01:33am
Love my Insanity:
I think these videos speak for themselves. I, personally, have been a vegetarian for 2 years straight. You may say, "That takes a lot of willpower." But it just depends if you get the right information and choose to do something about it. Whether you boycot meat, or revolt against it with running butt naked in Spain for the bulls. Just watch these:
You can call me a hippie, but don't say my rants are useless, because these animals are in danger.
What do you think?
These animals are in danger from over population if humans didn't eat meat. If all the farm animals were let loose to play and there was no control at all over their numbers, then the population of pigs, cows, and chickens would explode into billions. Grassy fields would soon run out and after that, what would the world eat? (Assuming they all became vegetarians in order for this highly unlikey scenario to happen.)
There are good reasons as well to eat meat and there is meat which has been killed in a humane fashion. Like you said, get all the information, and PETA isn't all the information. It's half of the information as seen from a bunch of moody teenagers with a need to stir up emotion.
if theres one thing i can't stand. its those vegetarian/vegans who when you are eating meat give you those evil looks, then begin to lecture you on how evil you, and give you some statistics on why you are. Fine, be a veggie, its your choice, but i like eating meat pies..even if it does contain pig dick and cow bollock.
Plug In Baby. Addict Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 11334
April 22nd, 2007 at 05:52am
rehabreject:
Plug In Baby.:
I can't bring myself to eat something that used to be alive.
Vegetables used to be alive. Practically anything you eat used to be a living organism.
Maybe you mean something that was conscious of being alive.
No, yeah, that's what I mean obviously. Idk, I just cant stand the fact that what once used to walk around, have a life etc now doesn't.
I don't know, it's just, I hate the concept of people dying, when I think that I'm going to die at some point I get scared because I don't want to die. So uh, yeah.
Dom:
if theres one thing i can't stand. its those vegetarian/vegans who when you are eating meat give you those evil looks, then begin to lecture you on how evil you, and give you some statistics on why you are. Fine, be a veggie, its your choice, but i like eating meat pies..even if it does contain pig dick and cow bollock.
a few weeks ago when I was at central station in sydney I went into a bathroom stall and on the door there was this fantastic debate about eating meat. It was people who were like "eating meat is evil" and then other people who were like "eating meat was needed for our evolution", it was great.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
April 22nd, 2007 at 06:14am
Plug In Baby.:
rehabreject:
Plug In Baby.:
I can't bring myself to eat something that used to be alive.
Vegetables used to be alive. Practically anything you eat used to be a living organism.
Maybe you mean something that was conscious of being alive.
No, yeah, that's what I mean obviously. Idk, I just cant stand the fact that what once used to walk around, have a life etc now doesn't.
I don't know, it's just, I hate the concept of people dying, when I think that I'm going to die at some point I get scared because I don't want to die. So uh, yeah.
In that case, I like to think of myself as being fair to animals and plants, not just favouring one and eating the other, but eating both. Fair and square.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
April 22nd, 2007 at 06:19am
Dom:
if theres one thing i can't stand. its those vegetarian/vegans who when you are eating meat give you those evil looks, then begin to lecture you on how evil you, and give you some statistics on why you are. Fine, be a veggie, its your choice, but i like eating meat pies..even if it does contain pig dick and cow bollock.
I hate that too. I hate people who try and convert you, like PETA! Stuff it, seriously, I eat meat and it's too bad for you if you don't want me to. Another thing that really bugs me is people saying that we're going to cause cows and chickens and pigs to go extinct. I think it's the chickens, I'm pretty sure that there are more chickens in this world than people, again, it might be one of the others. By the rate we breed them and taking those vegetarians out of the equation, there is enough chicken, pork, and cow to feed everyone. They won't go extinct unless there is a fast spreding virus or diesease that affects them. If that doesn't happen, they'll go extinct long, long, after us even.
lyrical_mess Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5278
April 22nd, 2007 at 06:56am
I think livestock animals are kept alive because we breed and eat them. Otherwise, they'd get run over like roadkill and be eaten by other stuff without any species population control. The bell-curve thing would go haywire.
Also, I'm a vegetarian, but it's not cuz I love animals. Its cuz I hate plants.
I'm very against killing animals. But I do like meeeeat. Not like..deer,lamb,elk.ngn like..hunting shit.
Anji Basket Case Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 15914
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:18am
lyrical_mess:
I think livestock animals are kept alive because we breed and eat them. Otherwise, they'd get run over like roadkill and be eaten by other stuff without any species population control. The bell-curve thing would go haywire.
Also, I'm a vegetarian, but it's not cuz I love animals. Its cuz I hate plants.
I disagree, I think that yeah, though pleanty will die from lack of survival tactics, the sheer population will just increase exponentially because they'll mate like crazy and if possible, the food chain will become even more unbalenced.
Aren't you also Hindi? Aren't you not a vegetarian because of religious reasons?
lyrical_mess Falling In Love With The Board Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 5278
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:44am
Yeah, I am. But I like telling people I hate plants.
