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May 5th, 2007 at 10:51pm
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I'm vegan. the way you people explain it is confusing. vegan means no meat, dairy, eggs, fur, leather, wool, etc.

it's not hard. and it is 1000000000x healthier when done right. it gets a bad rep from people not doing their research about what to eat before they actually go vegan. I've been a vegetarian for 3 years and a vegan for 1. all I can say is that it's done wonders for my health. I'm a happier, kinder person, and I'm helping animals.

I can't see why someone could criticize us Wink

I really just don't believe it's necessary or natural to hurt animals for food.
they live breathe and feel pain just like us.
Animals hurt animals for food. o_x You know.....just like nature some animals only eat veggies and some only eat meaties. So yeah....Im a meat eater.
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May 6th, 2007 at 06:50am
I don't see the thing in not eating meat. It won't really save animals. ._.
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May 6th, 2007 at 01:08pm
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Animals hurt animals for food. o_x You know.....just like nature some animals only eat veggies and some only eat meaties. So yeah....Im a meat eater.

Yeah, animals hunt other animals. But people don't "hunt" animals. Animals are domesticated and slaughtered. The conditions that some animals are kept in prior to being killed are disgusting and not comparable to an animal who is hunted in their natural environment. I don't so much have a problem with people eating meat as I do with how they obtain that meat.
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May 6th, 2007 at 01:16pm
Kurtni:
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Animals hurt animals for food. o_x You know.....just like nature some animals only eat veggies and some only eat meaties. So yeah....Im a meat eater.

Yeah, animals hunt other animals. But people don't "hunt" animals. Animals are domesticated and slaughtered. The conditions that some animals are kept in prior to being killed are disgusting and not comparable to an animal who is hunted in their natural environment. I don't so much have a problem with people eating meat as I do with how they obtain that meat.

My uncle hunts game and eats it. Coolio what say you to that?
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May 6th, 2007 at 01:37pm
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Kurtni:
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Animals hurt animals for food. o_x You know.....just like nature some animals only eat veggies and some only eat meaties. So yeah....Im a meat eater.

Yeah, animals hunt other animals. But people don't "hunt" animals. Animals are domesticated and slaughtered. The conditions that some animals are kept in prior to being killed are disgusting and not comparable to an animal who is hunted in their natural environment. I don't so much have a problem with people eating meat as I do with how they obtain that meat.

My uncle hunts game and eats it. Coolio what say you to that?
I would much rather someone hunt animals in their natural enviroment then get meat from a big processing company. Tis what I say to that Coffee
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May 6th, 2007 at 10:14pm
Kurtni:
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Animals hurt animals for food. o_x You know.....just like nature some animals only eat veggies and some only eat meaties. So yeah....Im a meat eater.

Yeah, animals hunt other animals. But people don't "hunt" animals. Animals are domesticated and slaughtered. The conditions that some animals are kept in prior to being killed are disgusting and not comparable to an animal who is hunted in their natural environment. I don't so much have a problem with people eating meat as I do with how they obtain that meat.
Thats cause animals dont know they can domesticate other animals. If they did I bet thats what they'd do. Like the wolf in sheeps clothing. You blend in and make nice, then you kill and eat them. Its horrible but they taste good O: Should eating animals be illegal?
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May 6th, 2007 at 10:31pm
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Thats cause animals dont know they can domesticate other animals. If they did I bet thats what they'd do. Like the wolf in sheeps clothing. You blend in and make nice, then you kill and eat them. Its horrible but they taste good O: Should eating animals be illegal?

No, that's because animals don't have the ability to domesticate and if they became so advanced that they were able to do that; they'd be almost human. The wolf in the sheep's clothing isn't real, its a fictional cartoon, it isn't compareable to the conditions some sheep are kept in real life. mrgreen: I just said that I don't have oppostion to eating meat when the meat is obtained in a way that isn't cruel... so do you think that I think eating meat should be illegal?
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May 7th, 2007 at 07:13pm
Kurtni:
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Thats cause animals dont know they can domesticate other animals. If they did I bet thats what they'd do. Like the wolf in sheeps clothing. You blend in and make nice, then you kill and eat them. Its horrible but they taste good O: Should eating animals be illegal?

No, that's because animals don't have the ability to domesticate and if they became so advanced that they were able to do that; they'd be almost human. The wolf in the sheep's clothing isn't real, its a fictional cartoon, it isn't compareable to the conditions some sheep are kept in real life. mrgreen: I just said that I don't have oppostion to eating meat when the meat is obtained in a way that isn't cruel... so do you think that I think eating meat should be illegal?
My dog had the ability to make a dog kill itself. Serious Im not even being funny. I dont know o_o Do you think it should be illegal or legal? Cause back in the day thats how people survived, now they know better and people are for animal rights, so should we make it illegal and make people eat only fruits and vegetables or just go on doing what we're doing?
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May 7th, 2007 at 07:32pm
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My dog had the ability to make a dog kill itself. Serious Im not even being funny. I dont know o_o Do you think it should be illegal or legal? Cause back in the day thats how people survived, now they know better and people are for animal rights, so should we make it illegal and make people eat only fruits and vegetables or just go on doing what we're doing?

Please explain to me how your dog has the ability to make another dog kill itself Coolio
And no, I don't think eating meat should be made illegal, hence why I said "I have no opposition to eating meat.."
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May 7th, 2007 at 08:18pm
Kurtni:
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My dog had the ability to make a dog kill itself. Serious Im not even being funny. I dont know o_o Do you think it should be illegal or legal? Cause back in the day thats how people survived, now they know better and people are for animal rights, so should we make it illegal and make people eat only fruits and vegetables or just go on doing what we're doing?

Please explain to me how your dog has the ability to make another dog kill itself Coolio
And no, I don't think eating meat should be made illegal, hence why I said "I have no opposition to eating meat.."
Well my dog played mind tricks with the other dog. Cause we kept saying how we wanted to get rid of all our animals except for one dog [we only had 2 at the time]. And so the dog who lived Pinto kept ging to the street and then coming back like it was nobodys business and he would push the other dog to the street . And one day the dog was just walked on the street and got hit by a car. Purty smart. Like we just talk about getting rid of one, but not saying which one and then Pinto takes the other one down e_e SneakySneaky.
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May 7th, 2007 at 08:22pm
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Kurtni:
Sheepo@_@:
My dog had the ability to make a dog kill itself. Serious Im not even being funny. I dont know o_o Do you think it should be illegal or legal? Cause back in the day thats how people survived, now they know better and people are for animal rights, so should we make it illegal and make people eat only fruits and vegetables or just go on doing what we're doing?

Please explain to me how your dog has the ability to make another dog kill itself Coolio
And no, I don't think eating meat should be made illegal, hence why I said "I have no opposition to eating meat.."
Well my dog played mind tricks with the other dog. Cause we kept saying how we wanted to get rid of all our animals except for one dog [we only had 2 at the time]. And so the dog who lived Pinto kept ging to the street and then coming back like it was nobodys business and he would push the other dog to the street . And one day the dog was just walked on the street and got hit by a car. Purty smart. Like we just talk about getting rid of one, but not saying which one and then Pinto takes the other one down e_e SneakySneaky.

I seriously doubt your dog understands English enough to comprehend that you intended to get rid of a dog. Mr. Green
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May 7th, 2007 at 08:30pm
Kurtni:
I seriously doubt your dog understands English enough to comprehend that you intended to get rid of a dog. Mr. Green
But they have the ability to be trained into thinking dont they? He knows his name is Pinto. So say it enough times he'll get it O_O_O_O_O Im telling you, he set it up Hand
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May 7th, 2007 at 09:10pm
I am a pescetarian only because I don't see a reason to eat living things for nutrients and things that are found in many vegetables, fruits, and other edible plants.
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May 7th, 2007 at 09:50pm
But going by that logic, isn't a fish a living thing?
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May 7th, 2007 at 10:14pm
Plug In Baby.:
But going by that logic, isn't a fish a living thing?

Yeah, fish are living things. Alot of pescetarians have problems with the way animals are slaughtered; and fish aren't killed in the same way, and if you don't get your fish from fish farms, you aren't harming the environment by wasting land for farms. Plus, non-red meats contain less saturated fats and are very healthy.

And alot of pescetarians are under the impression that fish have no feelings, which isn't entirely true. Certain species of fish have crudely developed nervous systems and they don't feel as muchpain or on the opposite end of the spectrum some have highly developed systems that release lots of encephalins and endorphins to dull the pain quite a bit. They also obviously have a different type of brain and experience pain differently than humans do. However, alot of the fish we eat can feel pain.
If a pescetarian has ever had shark fin soup or something like that, they can rest assured the fish they ate felt pain. Alot of the fins used in that kind of soup are caught illegally. Fishermen catch them, cut their fins off and throw them back in the water. Not only do they feel the pain from having their fins removed, but they suffocate because they can no longer swim correctly so that their gills function. That's a very extreme example, not all fish suffer that much.
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May 8th, 2007 at 12:54pm
Plug In Baby.:
But going by that logic, isn't a fish a living thing?

Yes, and celery was a living thing too Coolio

idk, I don't understand the whole 'I don't eat living things' deal. Because most foods were alive once. Well, all plants and fruit were anyway. You're killing plants to eat them, after all. They don't feel pain, thats all.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticising people who eat plants either btw. Coolio
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May 8th, 2007 at 06:57pm
Kurtni:

Yeah, fish are living things. Alot of pescetarians have problems with the way animals are slaughtered; and fish aren't killed in the same way, and if you don't get your fish from fish farms, you aren't harming the environment by wasting land for farms. Plus, non-red meats contain less saturated fats and are very healthy.


And for Meg, I meant more like animals... Yes, plants are living things, but the say I see it, it's different from an animal.
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May 9th, 2007 at 05:25am
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Plug In Baby.:
But going by that logic, isn't a fish a living thing?

Yes, and celery was a living thing too Coolio

idk, I don't understand the whole 'I don't eat living things' deal. Because most foods were alive once. Well, all plants and fruit were anyway. You're killing plants to eat them, after all. They don't feel pain, thats all.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticising people who eat plants either btw. Coolio


Yeah I was going to get into that as well but I was too tired Shifty

And that was what I was talking about, if she doesn't eat animals because she doesn't want to eat a living thing, why doesn't she not eat fish as well?
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May 9th, 2007 at 05:59pm
Plug In Baby.:
Bloodraine:
Plug In Baby.:
But going by that logic, isn't a fish a living thing?

Yes, and celery was a living thing too Coolio

idk, I don't understand the whole 'I don't eat living things' deal. Because most foods were alive once. Well, all plants and fruit were anyway. You're killing plants to eat them, after all. They don't feel pain, thats all.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticising people who eat plants either btw. Coolio


Yeah I was going to get into that as well but I was too tired Shifty

And that was what I was talking about, if she doesn't eat animals because she doesn't want to eat a living thing, why doesn't she not eat fish as well?
To be perfectly honest, I do not want to eat fish. My mother said I needed to eat some kind of meat.
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May 10th, 2007 at 12:49am
Well, if you want protein, you can go for baked beans or tofu. Or lentils.
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