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July 12th, 2008 at 12:42pm
Anji:
I honestly believe I couldn't live without meat
Your body is physically capable of living without meat.
Peardrops:
I thought you couldn't live without meat anyway? I mean, I know some people do, obviously.. But don't vegetarians need to take iron supplements to make up for what they would normally get from meat?
most do because they don't balance their diet correctly, but if you watch what you eat and keep track of the nutrients you take in, you don't have to.
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July 12th, 2008 at 12:51pm
I take iron suppliments, but I took them for years before I became vegeterian. If you stop eating meat and live on carbs then you'd probably need them, but as long as you eat lots of green veg you shouldn't need to Dance
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July 12th, 2008 at 02:28pm
I've been a vegetarian for like 4 years or something and I've never taken any suppliments or anything. Coolio

Nothing drastics happened to my health, I felt fine tbh. But now I'm starting to notice that my immune system is shit and I catch everything so yeah I think I'll catch up on my vitamins. Cheese

Anyways, yay vegetarian. I love it. \o/
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July 12th, 2008 at 04:06pm
Kurtni:
Anji:
I honestly believe I couldn't live without meat
Your body is physically capable of living without meat.
Peardrops:
I thought you couldn't live without meat anyway? I mean, I know some people do, obviously.. But don't vegetarians need to take iron supplements to make up for what they would normally get from meat?
most do because they don't balance their diet correctly, but if you watch what you eat and keep track of the nutrients you take in, you don't have to.
I know my body could do it, but as a person, I'd go mental and like kill something, I reckon. Yes, I have been vegetarian, forceably, and as I said, I got sick. Though that was in India, so it could've been anything, but I still feel that a lack of meat did me in somewhat.
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July 14th, 2008 at 12:02am
im not vegan, but I have friends who are and a step mom who is. I'm curious though, some of my friends (including step mom) who are vegans are sorta on the 'Big' side, not saying all vegans are or anything, but how come? I thought if you were vegan you lost weight and stuff. o.o?
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July 14th, 2008 at 01:00am
Agent Zombie:
im not vegan, but I have friends who are and a step mom who is. I'm curious though, some of my friends (including step mom) who are vegans are sorta on the 'Big' side, not saying all vegans are or anything, but how come? I thought if you were vegan you lost weight and stuff. o.o?
It depends on the choices you make. Just like meat eaters. You can be vegan and eat healthy or you can be vegan and shove vegan cupcakes in your mouth all day.
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July 14th, 2008 at 03:42am
Agent Zombie:
im not vegan, but I have friends who are and a step mom who is. I'm curious though, some of my friends (including step mom) who are vegans are sorta on the 'Big' side, not saying all vegans are or anything, but how come? I thought if you were vegan you lost weight and stuff. o.o?
meat doesn't make you fat.
cheeseburgers do.
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July 14th, 2008 at 06:47pm
I don't think the "humans are meant to eat meat" arguement is very valid. I have no problem with eating meat and that has nothing to do with why I'm a vegetarian. What I have a problem with is the manner in which we go about obtaining meat. I think domesticating and breeding animals for the purpose of dying is cruel. What humans were meant to eat has nothing to do with what we do with the animals before we eat them.
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July 15th, 2008 at 09:09am
I've heard that for the upcoming Beijing Olympics, markets and restaurants in and around Beijing have been requested not to sell, or display dog meat because it's considered taboo to Western society to eat dogs. And of course, I totally diagree.

Firstly, not only the Americans will be heading to the Olympics in Beijing, people from Vietnam, Korea, and Switzerland will, and such countries also have a history of eating dog meat.

Secondly, this is an example of the problem of cultural globalisation. Why should it be that there is pressure to conform to American standards in particlar. There are already a ridiculous amount of Starbucks and MacDonalds littering the country, this is an attack on tradition though, even if it is already phasing out.

Thirdly, for example, Asians don't like turkey. In general, they hate the smell and think they are revolting. However it'snot like they are appealing to supermarkets in America to recall turkeys just for their own satisfaction.

It is rare to see much dog meat in Beiking these days, but still, this is unfair I think. And the response has been amazingy racist, I have found.

Also, I'm not sure if this goes here, but it kinda fits the topic. Whatever, still worth a discussion.
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July 15th, 2008 at 11:14am
Anji:
I've heard that for the upcoming Beijing Olympics, markets and restaurants in and around Beijing have been requested not to sell, or display dog meat because it's considered taboo to Western society to eat dogs. And of course, I totally diagree.

Firstly, not only the Americans will be heading to the Olympics in Beijing, people from Vietnam, Korea, and Switzerland will, and such countries also have a history of eating dog meat.

Secondly, this is an example of the problem of cultural globalisation. Why should it be that there is pressure to conform to American standards in particlar. There are already a ridiculous amount of Starbucks and MacDonalds littering the country, this is an attack on tradition though, even if it is already phasing out.

Thirdly, for example, Asians don't like turkey. In general, they hate the smell and think they are revolting. However it'snot like they are appealing to supermarkets in America to recall turkeys just for their own satisfaction.

It is rare to see much dog meat in Beiking these days, but still, this is unfair I think. And the response has been amazingy racist, I have found.

Also, I'm not sure if this goes here, but it kinda fits the topic. Whatever, still worth a discussion.

Why are you singling out America? It's not the only country where eating dogs is ~taboo~. And it isn't like we said "USUK CHINA NO DAWGZ" They did it on their own.
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July 15th, 2008 at 12:36pm
Kurtni:
Anji:
I've heard that for the upcoming Beijing Olympics, markets and restaurants in and around Beijing have been requested not to sell, or display dog meat because it's considered taboo to Western society to eat dogs. And of course, I totally diagree.

Firstly, not only the Americans will be heading to the Olympics in Beijing, people from Vietnam, Korea, and Switzerland will, and such countries also have a history of eating dog meat.

Secondly, this is an example of the problem of cultural globalisation. Why should it be that there is pressure to conform to American standards in particlar. There are already a ridiculous amount of Starbucks and MacDonalds littering the country, this is an attack on tradition though, even if it is already phasing out.

Thirdly, for example, Asians don't like turkey. In general, they hate the smell and think they are revolting. However it'snot like they are appealing to supermarkets in America to recall turkeys just for their own satisfaction.

It is rare to see much dog meat in Beiking these days, but still, this is unfair I think. And the response has been amazingy racist, I have found.

Also, I'm not sure if this goes here, but it kinda fits the topic. Whatever, still worth a discussion.

Why are you singling out America? It's not the only country where eating dogs is ~taboo~. And it isn't like we said "USUK CHINA NO DAWGZ" They did it on their own.
Because that's where the complaint came from. Some sort of athletes union of some sort.
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July 15th, 2008 at 12:46pm
Anji:
Because that's where the complaint came from. Some sort of athletes union of some sort.
Source?
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July 16th, 2008 at 12:59pm
Kurtni:
I don't think the "humans are meant to eat meat" arguement is very valid.

Arguably, though, humans as a species are anatomically enigineered to eat an omniverous diet.
The mix of incisor and molar teeth shows that humans are able to eat plants and meat, plus the lack of a diastema shows that we're ill equipped to chew cud like sheep or cows. Moreover, the structure of the human intestines is more complex than that of a carnivore yet far more simplified than that of a herbivore, showing that we can digest a mixed diet.

I'm not trying to be deliberately contradictory, and my argument is probably not all that popular, but it is about the only thing I can remember from GCSE Biology. I'm not saying that humans eating meat is right soley because our bodies can facilitate it, and in a way, 'humans are supposed to eat meat' isn't really the full story. But in another way, it must surely be fair to say that we've undeniably evolved with the characteristics to live off an omniverious diet.
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July 16th, 2008 at 01:41pm
Bloodraine:

Arguably, though, humans as a species are anatomically enigineered to eat an omniverous diet.The mix of incisor and molar teeth shows that humans are able to eat plants and meat, plus the lack of a diastema shows that we're ill equipped to chew cud like sheep or cows. Moreover, the structure of the human intestines is more complex than that of a carnivore yet far more simplified than that of a herbivore, showing that we can digest a mixed diet.

I'm not trying to be deliberately contradictory, and my argument is probably not all that popular, but it is about the only thing I can remember from GCSE Biology. I'm not saying that humans eating meat is right soley because our bodies can facilitate it, and in a way, 'humans are supposed to eat meat' isn't really the full story. But in another way, it must surely be fair to say that we've undeniably evolved with the characteristics to live off an omniverious diet.
That was the exact same argument essentially, and you ignored the rest of my post. Coolio

Kurtni:
What humans were meant to eat has nothing to do with what we do with the animals before we eat them.

Biological evolution was irrelevant to what I said.
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July 16th, 2008 at 01:52pm
Okay. I just wanted to say it because that's what I was taught and I thought it was relevant.
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July 21st, 2008 at 07:56am
I have a question, I suppose.

I've heard that becoming a vegetarian should be done once your body is completely "mature." I'm thinking about becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure if it would be healthiest to do it now, wait until I'm older or if it makes a difference to my body either way. Any thoughts?
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July 21st, 2008 at 10:44am
Megatron:
I have a question, I suppose.

I've heard that becoming a vegetarian should be done once your body is completely "mature." I'm thinking about becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure if it would be healthiest to do it now, wait until I'm older or if it makes a difference to my body either way. Any thoughts?
I stopped eating meat when I was 13ish i think, so I obviously wasn't done growing. As long as you're responsible and make sure you get the proper nutrients (I'd recommend vitamins) it shouldn't be a problem.
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July 21st, 2008 at 07:42pm
Kurtni:
Megatron:
I have a question, I suppose.

I've heard that becoming a vegetarian should be done once your body is completely "mature." I'm thinking about becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure if it would be healthiest to do it now, wait until I'm older or if it makes a difference to my body either way. Any thoughts?
I stopped eating meat when I was 13ish i think, so I obviously wasn't done growing. As long as you're responsible and make sure you get the proper nutrients (I'd recommend vitamins) it shouldn't be a problem.


Okay, thank you. Very Happy
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July 21st, 2008 at 08:16pm
Megatron:
Kurtni:
Megatron:
I have a question, I suppose.

I've heard that becoming a vegetarian should be done once your body is completely "mature." I'm thinking about becoming a vegetarian, but I'm not sure if it would be healthiest to do it now, wait until I'm older or if it makes a difference to my body either way. Any thoughts?
I stopped eating meat when I was 13ish i think, so I obviously wasn't done growing. As long as you're responsible and make sure you get the proper nutrients (I'd recommend vitamins) it shouldn't be a problem.


Okay, thank you. Very Happy
No problem. If you start to feel ill though, talk to your doctor. He/she can recommend specific vitamins or protein shakes, etc. Con
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July 21st, 2008 at 10:24pm
I've tried to be a vegetarian many times but I always fail. I feel disgusted when I eat meat. I hate hurting animals too so I try my best to stay away from meat.
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