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GreenFlySoup
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May 28th, 2005 at 04:48pm
yeah, it's like the whole thing about if you say something enough you start to believe it. That's why victims of abuse think it's their fault they are being abused Shocked

Luckily i've never been in a cult like situation - unless you count GSB haha
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May 29th, 2005 at 05:27am
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i read a magazine story about a girl who was taken into a cult, moved out of her parents' house to be with the cult - she was a teenager - and was made to believe she had to punish herself for her day to day behaviour. she said how one time she forced a wire coat hanger into her face to punish herself. i read it and was fascinated and appauled at the same time


i read that article, it's amazing she came to her senses. God she used to burn herself with an iron and all sotrs of stuff it's truly horrific

I'm petrified at the fact that everyone can be brainwashed so easily

same - its scary how much your thoughts can be manipulated and changed just by what someone is telling you. i was shocked when i read it, thinking "id never do that" but i think its obvious how much you can be made to think


I know and she was born into her cult so she thought it was normal from the start of her life which i think is sick
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May 29th, 2005 at 06:30am
I reaD something about it yesterday but I cant really remember ( Cheers ) but I will look it up, some were really creepy....
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May 29th, 2005 at 12:52pm
If Helter Skelter comes back, I'm going into hiding.
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May 29th, 2005 at 12:55pm
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I was watching this program on an old american cult and nearly 1000 people committed suicide because there leader jimmie jones told them it was just like sleeping and said we sould all sleep. They called him there father and obeyed his every word, little kids were told by there parents that they were all going to sleep for a long time. 936 lives were lost because of one man i think its horrific

What do you think and any other stories on cults?
it was their choice... there responsible....exept for the kids...most of them probally didnt know what was happening
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May 30th, 2005 at 05:04am
redheadtrouble:
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I was watching this program on an old american cult and nearly 1000 people committed suicide because there leader jimmie jones told them it was just like sleeping and said we sould all sleep. They called him there father and obeyed his every word, little kids were told by there parents that they were all going to sleep for a long time. 936 lives were lost because of one man i think its horrific

What do you think and any other stories on cults?
it was their choice... there responsible....exept for the kids...most of them probally didnt know what was happening


You obviously dont understand what a cult is, you think they choose to work 11 hours and day and be raped and abused everyday? They are brainwashed and if you were in that situation i doubt very much that you would of had control over it
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May 31st, 2005 at 03:18am
GreenFlySoup:
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i read a magazine story about a girl who was taken into a cult, moved out of her parents' house to be with the cult - she was a teenager - and was made to believe she had to punish herself for her day to day behaviour. she said how one time she forced a wire coat hanger into her face to punish herself. i read it and was fascinated and appauled at the same time


i read that article, it's amazing she came to her senses. God she used to burn herself with an iron and all sotrs of stuff it's truly horrific

I'm petrified at the fact that everyone can be brainwashed so easily


I know the way they feel they need to punish themselves like that or at all is horrible
skanking Brit
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May 31st, 2005 at 07:09am
I heard about that. The people who commited suicide. I think that they're stupid for believing that guy.
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May 31st, 2005 at 07:33am
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I heard about that. The people who commited suicide. I think that they're stupid for believing that guy.

but they're fed so many lies and things they come to believe it. i know what you mean cos when i read it i thought "how thick can you get?!" but they must come to believe it cos they're told so much
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May 31st, 2005 at 10:48am
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I heard about that. The people who commited suicide. I think that they're stupid for believing that guy.


No thats not the case at all the guy makes you believe its right its called brainwashing there isnt any way you can control your own mind once you are in a cult you think like you are in a cult
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May 31st, 2005 at 09:38pm
Anji:
If Helter Skelter comes back, I'm going into hiding.

There's a pretty good bad religion song about it.
http://www.badreligion.com/media/
its anesthesia from all ages...actually first from against the grain...but yeah that was weird...Oh yeah, did the beatles song come out before or after they wrote that on the walls?
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June 2nd, 2005 at 08:08pm
Cults don't have to be a bad thing. When people think of a cult they think of freaky people who control your every move and make you kill yourself. That's not a modern-day cult. I think religion is a cult. My mother would kill me for saying that but it is. It doens't have to be a bad thing. Those who believe in God (which I do) are sort of part of a cult. They are FOLLOWING someone and in a sense doing what the "person" tells them to do. We follow the ten commandments (or try to anyway) and that's following what he wants us to do. That's sort of like a cult. So.. basically I think cults can be a bad thing and I think they can also be everything. Not necessarily bad.. that's just my take..
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June 3rd, 2005 at 03:37am
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Cults don't have to be a bad thing. When people think of a cult they think of freaky people who control your every move and make you kill yourself. That's not a modern-day cult. I think religion is a cult. My mother would kill me for saying that but it is. It doens't have to be a bad thing. Those who believe in God (which I do) are sort of part of a cult. They are FOLLOWING someone and in a sense doing what the "person" tells them to do. We follow the ten commandments (or try to anyway) and that's following what he wants us to do. That's sort of like a cult. So.. basically I think cults can be a bad thing and I think they can also be everything. Not necessarily bad.. that's just my take..


Yeah i see your point i think religion is one of the biggest cults out there but it is a positive one and people still have free will and can still think for themselves
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June 3rd, 2005 at 06:10am
Depends what is defined as a cult. Everything is a cult really. All religions loads of stuff with a following is a cult. Green Day have probably go their own cult.
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June 3rd, 2005 at 06:26am
yay somthing i know about, i recently did an assignment on cults
"...one person's cult is another's religion; all religions begin life as cults. An alternative definition is that a cult is a religion which you happen to dislike." Anthony Campbell
i found this quote amusing
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June 3rd, 2005 at 06:28am
i have stuff on this cult called the family. Here is a brief introduction if you wanna know more just ask.
The Family is a high-demand faith group that requires great personal sacrifice on the part of its members. They emphasize Jesus' teachings against loyalties to one's family-of-origin. They stress Jesus' preaching in favour of poverty and a simple life. The group merges traditional Evangelical Christian beliefs and practices with the belief in universal salvation, contacts with spirits, communal living, and free love among adults within the group. They are a favourite target of the counter-cult movement who attack its unorthodox theological beliefs. They are also attacked by the anti-cult movement who accuse it of mind control and criminal sexual practices. The latter accusations appear to be unfounded.
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June 3rd, 2005 at 07:59am
i'd like to know more about cults actually...
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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:08am
ok then let me get more info
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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:09am
ok here is an example of a dooms day cult its very long.

Aum Shinri Kyo  (Supreme Truth)
INTRODUCTION:
The Aum Shinri Kyo is a destructive, doomsday cult centred in Japan. Their name is a combination of Aum, which is a sacred Hindu syllable, and Shinri Kyo, which means "supreme truth". It appears to be a syncretistic religion, founded in 1987, and combining elements of Buddhism with Christianity. Buddhist leaders in Japan have rejected it as a legitimate Buddhist faith group. On 18/01/2000, Aum Shinri Kyo changed its name to Aleph.
ORIGIN/AGE:
Its leader, Shoko Asahara was born in 1955 as Chizuo Matsumoto, the son of a tatami straw mat maker. He was partially blind at birth, and attended a school for the blind. As an adult, he was an acupuncturist. In the early 1980's, he opened a folk medicine shop. Later, he established a school for yoga. Then he travelled to the Himalayas to study Buddhism and Hinduism. This led him to organize the Aum Shinri Kyo in 1987.
Asahara is regarded as Christ by his followers. Using the book of Revelation from the Christian Scriptures, and the writings of a 16th Century Christian astrologer, Nostradamus, he has predicted major disasters to occur in the final years of this millennium.
TEACHING/PHILOSOPHY:
Asahara claims that he has travelled forward to the year 2006 and has talked to people who have survived World War III. Asahara called for the group to fight in a final world revolution against the enemies of Japan, including the US. The group established a number of chemical factories and stockpiled various chemicals, as preparation for this Armageddon. There have been allegations that Asahara had ordered the assassination of at least one of his followers.
POPULATION:
His group reached a peak membership of about 20,000 worldwide. Many of them were drawn to the group because of a promise that they would develop supernatural powers; others were attracted by the group's rejection of the corruption and materialism that they saw throughout modern Japan.
The government failed in 1997-JAN to have the group disbanded. A legal panel ruled that there were insufficient grounds to believe that it remained a threat to the public with only 1,000 full and part time members. Estimates of the number of members in the group vary widely from 1,000 to 5,000. During 1997-AUG, the Japanese Public Security Investigation Agency announced that the AUM has established 10 new "departments" and reopened five regional chapters and one training centre. They now have 26 facilities in Japan.
PLACE OF WORSHIP/RITUALS:
Many arbitrary, strict rules of behaviour were enforced on the membership. They were explained as being part of an ancient tradition. Supreme Truth emphasized a siege mentality: that outside groups, including the national governments were intent on destroying their organization.
CRIME/ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES:
A study by the New York Times revealed that the cult had also mounted at least nine biological attacks on different installations in Japan. Targets included the Legislature, the Imperial Palace, and the U.S. base at Yokosuka. Cult members sprayed microbes and germ toxins from rooftops and convoys of trucks. The attacks failed; they resulted in no known deaths. It appears that the germs that they were able to obtain lacked sufficient virulence.
Asahara was placed on trial for the spreading of a nerve gas, Sarin, in a Tokyo subway station on 1995-MAR-20. The gas killed 12 passengers and injured over 5000. US Senate testimony revealed that if those responsible had not made errors in preparation and dispersion of the gas, that many thousands of innocent subway patrons would have been killed, and untold thousands injured. Over 100 Aum members have been charged. Trials are expected to last up to 10 years. The government is attempting to outlaw the cult under their Anti-Subversive Activities Law. Membership had dropped to about 7,000.
Ikuo Hayashi, "Dr. Death,� is a formal medical specialist of the Aum group. He was found guilty of spreading deadly gas in the Tokyo subway system. He has been sentenced to life imprisonment. His "apparent remorse and his co-operation in the investigation were believed to have influenced the decision to punish him with life imprisonment instead of the death penalty." (Japan is one of only two democracies in the world that still retain the death penalty; the other country is the U.S.)
In 1998-OCT, Kazuaki Okazaki, a founding member of the Supreme Truth group was found guilty of conspiring with five other group members in the murder of lawyer Tsutsumi Sakamoto, his wife Satoko and their baby son Tatsuhiko in 1989-NOV. He was also found guilty of killing Shuji Taguchi, a member of the cult, in 1999-FEB. Okazaki was scheduled to be executed.
Rika Matsumoto, third daughter of group leader Shoko Asahara has now taken charge of the cult. The group apparently believes that she has great spiritual abilities because she was born after her father was "enlightened" in 1982.
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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:18am
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http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=suicide+cult/v=2/SID=w/TID=E219_99/l=WS1/R=1/IPC=us/SHE=0/H=1/SIG=11r2u2v0l/EXP=1117396852/*-http%3A//www.arsnova.org/vmall/vcult.html

the Virtual Suicide Cult

is that for real? sounds like a joke, the language they used


it probably is!

the part where it said "Special kool-aid-formula potion" cracked me up so badly!!!

lmfao!!!
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