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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:21am
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If Helter Skelter comes back, I'm going into hiding.


i know im thick but whats Helter Skelter? Confused Embarassed
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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:25am
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ok here is an example of a dooms day cult its very long.

Aum Shinri Kyo  (Supreme Truth)
INTRODUCTION:
The Aum Shinri Kyo is a destructive, doomsday cult centred in Japan. Their name is a combination of Aum, which is a sacred Hindu syllable, and Shinri Kyo, which means "supreme truth". It appears to be a syncretistic religion, founded in 1987, and combining elements of Buddhism with Christianity. Buddhist leaders in Japan have rejected it as a legitimate Buddhist faith group. On 18/01/2000, Aum Shinri Kyo changed its name to Aleph.
ORIGIN/AGE:
Its leader, Shoko Asahara was born in 1955 as Chizuo Matsumoto, the son of a tatami straw mat maker. He was partially blind at birth, and attended a school for the blind. As an adult, he was an acupuncturist. In the early 1980's, he opened a folk medicine shop. Later, he established a school for yoga. Then he travelled to the Himalayas to study Buddhism and Hinduism. This led him to organize the Aum Shinri Kyo in 1987.
Asahara is regarded as Christ by his followers. Using the book of Revelation from the Christian Scriptures, and the writings of a 16th Century Christian astrologer, Nostradamus, he has predicted major disasters to occur in the final years of this millennium.
TEACHING/PHILOSOPHY:
Asahara claims that he has travelled forward to the year 2006 and has talked to people who have survived World War III. Asahara called for the group to fight in a final world revolution against the enemies of Japan, including the US. The group established a number of chemical factories and stockpiled various chemicals, as preparation for this Armageddon. There have been allegations that Asahara had ordered the assassination of at least one of his followers.
POPULATION:
His group reached a peak membership of about 20,000 worldwide. Many of them were drawn to the group because of a promise that they would develop supernatural powers; others were attracted by the group's rejection of the corruption and materialism that they saw throughout modern Japan.
The government failed in 1997-JAN to have the group disbanded. A legal panel ruled that there were insufficient grounds to believe that it remained a threat to the public with only 1,000 full and part time members. Estimates of the number of members in the group vary widely from 1,000 to 5,000. During 1997-AUG, the Japanese Public Security Investigation Agency announced that the AUM has established 10 new "departments" and reopened five regional chapters and one training centre. They now have 26 facilities in Japan.
PLACE OF WORSHIP/RITUALS:
Many arbitrary, strict rules of behaviour were enforced on the membership. They were explained as being part of an ancient tradition. Supreme Truth emphasized a siege mentality: that outside groups, including the national governments were intent on destroying their organization.
CRIME/ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES:
A study by the New York Times revealed that the cult had also mounted at least nine biological attacks on different installations in Japan. Targets included the Legislature, the Imperial Palace, and the U.S. base at Yokosuka. Cult members sprayed microbes and germ toxins from rooftops and convoys of trucks. The attacks failed; they resulted in no known deaths. It appears that the germs that they were able to obtain lacked sufficient virulence.
Asahara was placed on trial for the spreading of a nerve gas, Sarin, in a Tokyo subway station on 1995-MAR-20. The gas killed 12 passengers and injured over 5000. US Senate testimony revealed that if those responsible had not made errors in preparation and dispersion of the gas, that many thousands of innocent subway patrons would have been killed, and untold thousands injured. Over 100 Aum members have been charged. Trials are expected to last up to 10 years. The government is attempting to outlaw the cult under their Anti-Subversive Activities Law. Membership had dropped to about 7,000.
Ikuo Hayashi, "Dr. Death,� is a formal medical specialist of the Aum group. He was found guilty of spreading deadly gas in the Tokyo subway system. He has been sentenced to life imprisonment. His "apparent remorse and his co-operation in the investigation were believed to have influenced the decision to punish him with life imprisonment instead of the death penalty." (Japan is one of only two democracies in the world that still retain the death penalty; the other country is the U.S.)
In 1998-OCT, Kazuaki Okazaki, a founding member of the Supreme Truth group was found guilty of conspiring with five other group members in the murder of lawyer Tsutsumi Sakamoto, his wife Satoko and their baby son Tatsuhiko in 1989-NOV. He was also found guilty of killing Shuji Taguchi, a member of the cult, in 1999-FEB. Okazaki was scheduled to be executed.
Rika Matsumoto, third daughter of group leader Shoko Asahara has now taken charge of the cult. The group apparently believes that she has great spiritual abilities because she was born after her father was "enlightened" in 1982.


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June 3rd, 2005 at 08:29am
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June 3rd, 2005 at 10:00am
Wow that was interesting to read they should just kill or imprision that Shoko Asahara so no more chaos can be caused
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June 3rd, 2005 at 10:02am
I don't think it will be that easy.
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June 3rd, 2005 at 10:15am
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I don't think it will be that easy.


Yeah i suppose there will always be someone to carry on the cult so there is nothing anyone can do really
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June 7th, 2005 at 12:44pm
anybody heard of the neo-nazi skinhead's? who are basically a group of people with shaved heads who go out 'paki-bashing' (beating up asian people) and 'fag-bashing' (beating up gay people) and i heard somewhere that they follow charles manson's philosophy which is quite long, and i wont attempt to type it out now as there will be something i miss out. ill re-research it in a minute and post something.
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June 7th, 2005 at 12:52pm
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anybody heard of the neo-nazi skinhead's? who are basically a group of people with shaved heads who go out 'paki-bashing' (beating up asian people) and 'fag-bashing' (beating up gay people) and i heard somewhere that they follow charles manson's philosophy which is quite long, and i wont attempt to type it out now as there will be something i miss out. ill re-research it in a minute and post something.


No i havent heard of them but im intersted in knowing more if you have anything else
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June 7th, 2005 at 12:53pm
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I heard about that. The people who commited suicide. I think that they're stupid for believing that guy.


No thats not the case at all the guy makes you believe its right its called brainwashing there isnt any way you can control your own mind once you are in a cult you think like you are in a cult


the cult will basically tell you something you want to hear im guessing, its as if people are willing to accept something they disagree with within the cult to get what they support. Like with Hitler, he gained support by giving a solution to unemployment, so people who were against his anti-scemetic views would still support him.
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June 7th, 2005 at 12:59pm
Neo-nazi skinheads
In the mid-80's the Neo-Nazi skinheads appeared in the United States. They had about 1,000 to 1,500 members by 1988 and around 3,400 by 1993 in forty states. With this growth in membership they have committed more violent crimes and have gone from using boots, bats and knives to using firearms. Only German skinheads have been able to match the United States skinheads in their frequent and ferocious attacks. From 1987 to 1990 there were only six killings by skinheads but from 1990 to 1993 there were more than 22 murders.

Skinheads target minority groups like Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, homosexuals and homeless people. They will even attack another skinhead for clothes, money or just because they did not like how the other skinhead acted. The racist skinheads also have a special war cry, RAHOWA that stands for Racial Holy War. Since they do not keep close ties with any location they are free to move to a new location to avoid law enforcement officials. This also allows them to change their names and skinhead groups they hang out with.


theres some more information on that cult
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June 7th, 2005 at 01:05pm
Helter Skelter




Another facet of Charlie, although not nearly as important to him as his music, was his philosophy. To a large extent, this "philosophy" was a con, something he dreamed up to impress his followers, but he probably believed some of it.

The core of this philosophy was a kind of Armageddon. Charlie preached that the black man was going to rise up and start killing the whites and turn the cities in to an inferno of racial revenge. The black man would win this war, but wouldn't be able to hang onto the power he seized because of innate inferiority.

In 1968, Charlie was forecasting racial war when all of a sudden the Beatles released their White Album, which had the song "Helter Skelter." The lyrics fit Charlie's theory to a tee: "Look out helter skelter helter skelter helter skelter/She's coming down fast/ Yes she is/Yes she is." Now, the racial Armageddon had a name. It was Helter Skelter.

Helter Skelter would begin, according to one of Charlie's devotees, "with the black man going into white people's homes and ripping off the white people, physically destroying them,. A couple of spades from Watts would come up into the Bel Air and Beverly Hills district...and just really wipe some people out, just cutting bodies up and smearing blood and writing things on the wall in blood...all kinds of super-atrocious crimes that would really make the white man mad...until there was open revolution in the streets, until they finally won and took over. Then the black man would assume the white man's karma. He would then be the establishment..."

Charlie and the Family would survive this racial holocaust because they would be hiding in the desert safe from the turmoil of the cities. He pulled from the Book of Revelations, the concept of a "bottomless pit," the entrance of which, according to Charlie, was a cave underneath Death Valley that led down to a city of gold. This paradise was where Charlie and his Family were going to wait out this war. Afterwards, when the black man failed at keeping power, Charlie's Family, which they estimated would have multiplied to 144,000 by that time, would then take over from the black man and rule the cities.

"It will be our world then," Charlie told his followers. "There would be no one else, except for us and the black servants. He, Charles Willis Manson, the fifth angel, Jesus Christ, would then rule the world. The other four angels were the Beatles.

How did this hokey philosophy result in the blood bath at the Tate and LaBianca houses? Well, Charlie the Prophet had already forecast that the murders would start in the summer of 1969, but as the summer went on, it looked as though the "prophet" was wrong. "The only thing blackie knows is what whitey has told him," he said to one of his followers just before the murders. "I'm going to have to show him how to do it."

After the LaBianca murder, one of Manson's girls, Linda Kasabian, was told to take Rosemary LaBianca's wallet and credit cards and leave them in the ladies room of a gas station in an area heavily populated by blacks. That way, when, theoretically, the credit cards would be used by some black woman, it would appear that blacks were responsible for the LaBianca deaths. However, the credit cards were never used or turned in to the authorities.


well thats the charles manson philosophy helter skelter.....i found it quite interesting
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June 8th, 2005 at 08:14am
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June 22nd, 2005 at 08:27am
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Ever hear of the KKK? There is a cult that scares me shitless.


there was a thing on the news tonight something about a former member being charged with the murder of 3 people, i don't remember all the detials, but the guy's really old and basically he's gonna die in jail, and they also showed a little footage of a movie, and it had all these people in those white costumes carring torches lighting some wooden cross, it was a really old movie, 't was in black and white... i have images burned in my mind from it, it's scaring the shit out of me...

and there wasn an episode of John Saffran vs. God the other week, and he went over to the US to see if he could join the KKK, for journalistic purposes, but seeing as he's Jewish he couldn't, but if your dad is jewish and your mum isn't you can join, and there was a thing on the show something about if you were a half-jew wishing to join the KKK write to: (insert address here)...

oh god! i can't get those images out of my mind, they're gonna haunt me now O_o
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June 22nd, 2005 at 08:30am
oh! and i remember a thing on 60 minutes ages ago, about some cult, where the children were beaten or something and a lot of the adults in it commited suicide or something, and the kids tried to escape, but they couldn't and some of the kids may or may not have been killed, and when cops or like child services came around the kids were hid, and they had one of the kids (who was now an adult) who lived throught it, on the show, and they showed you the house where it all happened...it's kinda a blur though, but something along those lines
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June 22nd, 2005 at 08:33am
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http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=suicide+cult/v=2/SID=w/TID=E219_99/l=WS1/R=1/IPC=us/SHE=0/H=1/SIG=11r2u2v0l/EXP=1117396852/*-http%3A//www.arsnova.org/vmall/vcult.html

the Virtual Suicide Cult


ok... O_o that's kinda really freaky! mabye i shouldn't have clicked it, coz my mum already thinks that there's something wrong with me, and when i grow up i'll be depressed and suicidal....sure, i will *ends sarcasm* i can't even squish a cockroach, let alone hurt myself...
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June 22nd, 2005 at 08:36am
oh and another thing relating to mass-suicides, or attempted mass-suicides, there's been stuff in the news lately about people in detention centres, and the other day a whole pile (if not all ) slahed their wrists, and they said that it was an attempted mass-suicide, although it may or may not have been exatdurated or not, you can't really teel these days, they just gove you whatever sells...
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June 22nd, 2005 at 08:50am
i remember seing a thing on ET ages ago, and the name "Manson" sounds vaguley familiar... they were ahving this interview with someone, who's name i do not recall, but i think his last name may or may not be Manson, anyway he's imprisoned in Califorania for the rest of his life, for murder or something, and he has a little Nazi sign on his forehead...
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June 22nd, 2005 at 11:39am
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i remember seing a thing on ET ages ago, and the name "Manson" sounds vaguley familiar... they were ahving this interview with someone, who's name i do not recall, but i think his last name may or may not be Manson, anyway he's imprisoned in Califorania for the rest of his life, for murder or something, and he has a little Nazi sign on his forehead...

Wow thats freeky! I suppose the Nazis were a cult aswell for going around killing Jews, gays, and basically anyone who they didn't like just so that they could have their own race of blonde hair blue eyes people in the world! Luckily that failed but people still believe in the whole Nazis regime to this day
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June 22nd, 2005 at 09:24pm
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i remember seing a thing on ET ages ago, and the name "Manson" sounds vaguley familiar... they were ahving this interview with someone, who's name i do not recall, but i think his last name may or may not be Manson, anyway he's imprisoned in Califorania for the rest of his life, for murder or something, and he has a little Nazi sign on his forehead...

Wow thats freeky! I suppose the Nazis were a cult aswell for going around killing Jews, gays, and basically anyone who they didn't like just so that they could have their own race of blonde hair blue eyes people in the world! Luckily that failed but people still believe in the whole Nazis regime to this day


yeah the nazis were kinda a cult, but they didn't do anything illgeal, killing the jews and others wasn't coz of the war, it was just morally wrong, so therefore they were wrongly convicted coz after they did what they did and before they wentto trial is when the laws were made about what they did was illegal so therefore they were charged, even though at the time, it was legal
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August 24th, 2005 at 08:36am
i watched a film like that where the all lived in this same house and they done evrythin wot the "father" sed. it woz quite freaky some of wot they done now that i think abut u
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